What should I do with this thing.
Re: no way
Originally posted by tallimeca
...As far as i can see.......Outragous Performance's name is already tarnished and he's gonna loose alot more than what he would loose by taking care of Matt.......
...As far as i can see.......Outragous Performance's name is already tarnished and he's gonna loose alot more than what he would loose by taking care of Matt.......
everyone, Tommy owes more than Mat money. I wish he would step up, be a man and do the right thing. I don't see how a tuner can do these things and still have there suporting vendor spot on the forums.
i agree that you have a right to be upset and the first things that happened, you had no control over.
but:
Did you think, at this point, he was going to start doing what he said or he would do the right thing?
some very level headed people (and a lawyer or 2) said have jdm take it down and document what was wrong. this not only builds your case, it saves you the task of taking it apart, saves some money on parts because some parts had to be good.
at some point you have to move on and cut your loses. when you figure out you are in a hole the first plan of action is to quit digging.
it is just a bad situation. i would try to figure out the damage and sale what is good. there is a part of me that would want to know what went wrong.
but:
The reason JDM did not tear down the engine is because Tommy agreed to buy it back.
some very level headed people (and a lawyer or 2) said have jdm take it down and document what was wrong. this not only builds your case, it saves you the task of taking it apart, saves some money on parts because some parts had to be good.
at some point you have to move on and cut your loses. when you figure out you are in a hole the first plan of action is to quit digging.
it is just a bad situation. i would try to figure out the damage and sale what is good. there is a part of me that would want to know what went wrong.
Originally posted by 415cid Goose
I don't see how a tuner can do these things and still have there suporting vendor spot on the forums.
I don't see how a tuner can do these things and still have there suporting vendor spot on the forums.
There are at least 2 sides to every story.
Doug
Originally posted by Silver_2000_
!
We cannot be judges of who is telling the truth.
There are at least 2 sides to every story.
Doug
! We cannot be judges of who is telling the truth.
There are at least 2 sides to every story.
Doug
-Mark
Originally posted by Silver_2000_
!
We cannot be judges of who is telling the truth.
There are at least 2 sides to every story.
Doug
! We cannot be judges of who is telling the truth.
There are at least 2 sides to every story.
Doug
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
Originally posted by nineseclightnin
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
I thought he already said it was evident that there was defective workmanship.
Last edited by evo; Dec 21, 2004 at 08:20 PM.
Originally posted by nineseclightnin
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
-Mark
Originally posted by nineseclightnin
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
A built short block is not a performance part, At least not on a 5.4 motor. They are built just like a factory motor except for different rods/pistons..

I know Tommy, I don't think he would do something like this on purpose. If your in the Tuner business, sometimes you have to eat your mistakes and it can be very costly to admit. Some don't want to admit when they are wrong and pay for the repair. The real man steps up to the plate and admits when he's wrong and does the right thing. Everybody makes mistakes, some do on purpose.
Last edited by DL; Dec 21, 2004 at 08:50 PM.
Originally posted by nineseclightnin
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
iver read this whole thread and i will agree with the above statement and we have not heard the other side so nobody should be telling this guy to do anything other than bite the bullet so speaking.
any high performance part is not and should not carry any kind of warranty other than defects in materials and workmanship was it dynod too lean or run hard on the street what if the owner drained all the oil and ran it and then said he got a bum motor. there are too many variables., what kind of level of blame does tommy have? none in my book.
get a set of tires from tire rack and do burnouts from one end of town to the other and then blame tirerack for your bad tires.
sorry for the misfortune, but performance comes at a price.
later.
Steve A.
Originally posted by 415cid Goose
Look Junior, you don't know the whole story or how many people have been f@#&*! by him. So before you add your 2 cents, know what your talking about.
Look Junior, you don't know the whole story or how many people have been f@#&*! by him. So before you add your 2 cents, know what your talking about.



