Not true. I've systematically removed customers that spend a ****load of money at my shop because if i have to listen to bitching and complaining about pure bull****.......or have them call me 3 times a day when they were told it would be a week before their equipment is finished and we would call them when it's done........it's not worth my wasted time and aggrivation.

Yes........but like I said....if you wanna compare apples and oranges.


What was that you were saying about Kerry? You just proved my point. The KB is a more efficient blower than the MP.......fact. So what's the comparrison???

Make him a little bias?? Almost everyone one of the 10 second beasts that rolled out of Jim's shop has a KenneBell on it. It's no secret. The Magnum blower is targeted for stock block trucks. It's been said over and over again, and still you clowns continue to beat the dead horse. JIM ISN'T SELLING OR PROMOTING THE MP BLOWER TO COMPETE WITH THE KB.

The MP is a whole different ballgame.

JDM is not a dealer for KB. They don't claim to be and if you call them they will tell you that. I don't think this has ever been misunderstood. Yes they tune for Kennebell......as they do for whipple, works, procharger, vortec.......... you don't have to be a dealer for a blower to know how to tune a vehicle that uses one.

So what was the point anyway?

 

Then why did he try to sell KBs through his sister-in-law in Atlanta, GA?

 

And why do they have KB's sitting on there table when they are FFW for sale just as any other part they sell. There were 2 of them on the table FFW@Gainesville.

And back during the phenolic spacer fiasco why did Jim@JDM say he got personally contact by Jim Bell of Kenne Bell if he is not trying to look like he is Kenne Bell Supercharger dealer.

 

No, I don't work for JDM. My family owns an Evinrude outboard motor dealership, though I don't work there much anymore because I am now a marine engineer for the DOD.

The sig line was actually ripped off from the Buick Grand National guys. Those were the cars that got me into forced induction, and I think the L is a similar vehicle in that it is limited production, different, and a force to be reconed with.

 

Casey 02
As you could tell a lot of our Customers have Kenne Bell Blowers. This is the main reason why I bring one or two spares to every event. In case one of our customers KB's Fail. We have been at a few events this year where they have locked up. We carry the spares so it does not ruin our customers weekend. As for Jim Bell up until the California Event we spoke at least once a month, I have sent him Fuel pumps a V10 Engine and an assortment of other parts. He gave me a Killer deal on a Supercharger for my Cobra and sent us pulley's and anything else we needed for the KB's.


When I met you in Gainesville I complimented you on the design work you have done on your truck, you had said your MP nose cone was leaking, you asked me to check the fluid in it, I attempted to loosen up the plug and it felt like the brass plug was going to strip. So I told you if you wanted to try it was up to you. I did't want to strip your plug because you bring everything to the internet. You already told everybody on the Florida site that I couldn't even remove a simple drain plug & made fun of me, when the fact was I was giving you a new nose cone anyway and I didn't want to strip your plug out. I do have the right to pick and choose my customers, and it is people like you with your internet manners and immaturity is the reason I do so.


Magnum Power Blowers
They are quite simply in my opinion the best blower for a stock block. Besides from the first early blowers we had a couple nose cone seal leaks due to a score on the shaft. That problem was found and fixed. We have sold nearly a hundred of these blowers and have had six complaints about the seal and they have been replaced. Just about every single MP we have sold to a stock block customer has been in the 11's, we have a handful of them on built motor trucks and two of them have been in the 10's, a best of a 10.80. You started putting down the blower and I started getting defensive on it. I don't feel you have any right to put the blower down on the internet for it's performance or the nose cone leak. The minute you let us know about the nose cone leak we were on it. As far as the performance goes I know you and many other people on here have read even in the 101 degree heat of summer the full weight stock block Magnum powers trucks were running in the 11's. The reason I called you rude and obnoxious and let me add an Internet Whiner is because you are. You have tried to destroy a product that works for everybody else but you. Charles has been good to you, I have been good to you and now that you have a KB you are still slower then a lot of other Magnum Power trucks.

Hope this helps...
Jim@JDM

 

Jim that post would have been perfect until the last sentence. I know you have your pride, and you handled that last post very well until you jabbed at him with the "you have a KB and you're still slower than some magnums" comment. You're just baiting him, and jusging from his posts, he'll be in here in no time. I still haven't decided on a Tuner/Vendor yet. You all seem like nice guys to me so far. In any case, I wanted to say that you explained a lot to me and you now have me looking more at Magnum than the KB since all I truly want is consistent Mid to low 12's on my daily driver.

What I can tell you is that this thread won't go away until someone, and that means most likely you judging by the other comments, can make a factual post, explain the benfits/reasoning behind the blowers, and lastly, NOT jab anyone into arguing more.

Have a good one.

 

well im headed to the track on Saturday... hoping to add another to the list of JDMs 11sec MP trucks.....

wish me luck

 

I apologize to you and Casey for the last line of my post. Casey has always been one for putting up facts so I threw that in there because it is a fact. But after re-reading it I can see that it can be taken wrong, again my apologies.
As for the Magnum power let me know what type of data that you are looking for and I would be more then happy to provide you with it. I have made many posts on the Magnum Powers, never compared them to a KB or a ported blower. Each one of them are in there own class. The Magnum Powers can run up to 20 pounds of boost on a stock block as long as you have it properly tuned it will perform great, with a much better chance of the stock block surviving because of the way the boost is brought in. I have spun one blower for a whole season of racing which is approx 400 quarter mile passes at over twentyfive-thousand RPM's. The truck ran between 11.30's & 11.50's all season with no signs of bearing damage or impellar to case damage. I am not saying you should do this with your MP I am just sayin that we have pushed the limits to see if there was a weak link.

Jim@JDM

 

Jim, im headed to the dyno tomorrow and gonna be faxing you a copy of the dyno graphs... currently im on the "base" tune you gave me and hitting the dyno so you can do your magic...

anyway, im curious... how far am I from hitting 11s on a 100+ octane race tune?

MP
Full JDM Exhaust
4lb Lower
SCT
C+L Plenum
Efan
JLP Ram Air
Traction Bars / Slicks
Accufab
Oil Breather Cap
FTVB
90mm
LFP Idler w/ Gatorback
TR6 (.034)

Stock 3.55 gears and torque converter

btw, currently Im seeing about 15, maybe 16psi... is that about perfect? would stepping to a 6lb be too much for a daily driven stock block?

 

Jim,
no apology necessary for me. I was just saying that you did a great job of explaining the differences between the two, and it was a great post besides that little "jab". Sure it's a fact, but in this context, it's "rubbing it in". In any case, you've definitely got my interest on the MP. I was eyeing ported stock, but for a little more money, I like what I'm seeing. Like I said. Mid (12.7) to low (12.3) is all I'm looking for on my stock block. With those higher pressures would you recommend a Fluidyne or aftermarket Heat Exchanger? In fact, maybe I'll start a "legitimate MP questionaire thread" and ask these questions

Thanks,
Josh

 

With the MP on a stock block , are people seeing to MAF max out?

Are the stock injectors keeping up with the MP on stock block?

I assume people running in the 11's are making some big power
& just wondering if stock MAF & injectors are able to handle the job.

Chris

 

Originally posted by nineseclightnin


I understand that Im new around here and only have an old farm truck gen1, but you gotta be the worst representative for the comopany you work for. calling someone those names and telling them to go away is ignorant as hell. explain to your boss when things get slow that you told people to go away and see how long you keep your job. thats sad dude.





If you think that is ridiculous try calling them up and talking to them. I called them once and once only that was enough for me.

 

MAF extenders Work
and SCT (which almost all tuners sell nowadays) have MAF that can handle a HUGE amount of air flow. (1200+hp)

 

Jim; you have done a lot for many Lightning owners. You have built motors and put several trucks into the 10's; mostly people around NJ, but that is another thing.

Yeah; I am going to stick to the facts. Kindof hard to go against facts. There are two sides to the FFW story/MP blower story. That comes down to facts and opinions. I am not going to go threw that again; you posted some of the info about it, but not all. And some of what you posted is fact, and some is scewed to your advantage. I had 3 other people standing right there, and all of them saw it the way I stand behine my side of the story. Remember you said I like sticking to facts.

I am going to stick to facts, and Jim feel free to follow any post I make that you feel you have a better facts.

As for picking your customers; no you can not do that on initial purchases and such. But, you can sure "fire" a customer. Weather it be by you telling them, or you doing actions which make them "resign" I think it is obvious you don't have to worry about me being a customer.

But Jim; what is your address so I can send you a new key board as a Christmas gift. It is obvious that yours is broke; atleast the "L" key when it comes to typing my screan name

 

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.