Lightning VS Hemi
hey aaron...can you please refresh my memory and tell me what car dodge put that 528 hemi in from the FACTORY?...i must have forgot...OH WAIT! no i didnt, they never put an engine that big in any vehicle that ever rolled off their assembly line! if you wana start bringing in crate engines into the whole thing, why dont we throw a sonny racing engine in our ford truck (2100 hp) and im sure ud be checkin out our *** then!
Originally posted by Aaron_001
Which one? All of the Hemi threads get locked because ignorant fools like DarkShadow03 post in them. When he gets beaten by a Dodge he is going to cry like a girl and make up an excuse. I dont care what type of car it is, as long as its fast and looks good. Too bad theres alot of people who have the blue oval shoved so far up where the sun don't shine to realize that
Which one? All of the Hemi threads get locked because ignorant fools like DarkShadow03 post in them. When he gets beaten by a Dodge he is going to cry like a girl and make up an excuse. I dont care what type of car it is, as long as its fast and looks good. Too bad theres alot of people who have the blue oval shoved so far up where the sun don't shine to realize that
hes canadian!
Too many anti-americans up there. Ungrateful(!) to say the least.
I'm all for the FOX News Channel Led Block on buying canadian goods, sjust as the French!
(a few exemptions are obvious, not all canadians are ultra left goons)
Last edited by Unoid; Apr 27, 2004 at 09:02 PM.
I'm a ford guy through and through. But I do have one question for all the Lightning guys.
Why is it so hard to believe that a 500hp viper truck can run a 12.9? If indeed it is 500flywheel horsepower, which would equate to around 430-440 whp, i think it would be pretty easy to run 12s. Here is a link to a bonestock dyno, with exception of the throttlebody.
http://www.srt10forum.com/attachment...ttachmentid=26
I mean what does a 400/500 hp lightning run the 1/4 in? If the weights are similar why is it so hard to believe that it ran a 12.x. Seems like it would be pretty easy to roll one off the showroom floor, slap some nittos on it and pull off a mid 12 second run.
Why is it so hard to believe that a 500hp viper truck can run a 12.9? If indeed it is 500flywheel horsepower, which would equate to around 430-440 whp, i think it would be pretty easy to run 12s. Here is a link to a bonestock dyno, with exception of the throttlebody.
http://www.srt10forum.com/attachment...ttachmentid=26
I mean what does a 400/500 hp lightning run the 1/4 in? If the weights are similar why is it so hard to believe that it ran a 12.x. Seems like it would be pretty easy to roll one off the showroom floor, slap some nittos on it and pull off a mid 12 second run.
cause the weights aren't similar, the truck has 22 in heavy *** rims. And i think 500 fly wheel lightnings are running what? low 12's in general?
I believe it can do it, i just don't believe most people can do it.
I believe it can do it, i just don't believe most people can do it.
Originally posted by f150intally
I'm a ford guy through and through. But I do have one question for all the Lightning guys.
Why is it so hard to believe that a 500hp viper truck can run a 12.9? If indeed it is 500flywheel horsepower, which would equate to around 430-440 whp, i think it would be pretty easy to run 12s. Here is a link to a bonestock dyno, with exception of the throttlebody.
http://www.srt10forum.com/attachment...ttachmentid=26
I mean what does a 400/500 hp lightning run the 1/4 in? If the weights are similar why is it so hard to believe that it ran a 12.x. Seems like it would be pretty easy to roll one off the showroom floor, slap some nittos on it and pull off a mid 12 second run.
I'm a ford guy through and through. But I do have one question for all the Lightning guys.
Why is it so hard to believe that a 500hp viper truck can run a 12.9? If indeed it is 500flywheel horsepower, which would equate to around 430-440 whp, i think it would be pretty easy to run 12s. Here is a link to a bonestock dyno, with exception of the throttlebody.
http://www.srt10forum.com/attachment...ttachmentid=26
I mean what does a 400/500 hp lightning run the 1/4 in? If the weights are similar why is it so hard to believe that it ran a 12.x. Seems like it would be pretty easy to roll one off the showroom floor, slap some nittos on it and pull off a mid 12 second run.
When they roll out with an auto trans it will be a much easier truck to race.
Jody
Originally posted by grinomyte
cause the weights aren't similar, the truck has 22 in heavy *** rims. And i think 500 fly wheel lightnings are running what? low 12's in general?
I believe it can do it, i just don't believe most people can do it.
cause the weights aren't similar, the truck has 22 in heavy *** rims. And i think 500 fly wheel lightnings are running what? low 12's in general?
I believe it can do it, i just don't believe most people can do it.
So what is the weight difference? Do you know for sure there is a large difference in weight? Just because it has 22s doesn't mean it ways that much more. Remember 100 lbs is only a tenth of a second in the quarter.
take a lightning running 435rwhp and it will probably run a low 12 right? now add 600 lbs and you have about half a second, so a mid 12? That is if the difference is 600lbs.
I do agree on the 6 six speed argument, however I do believe there are advantages to running a six speed as well, if you are an experienced racer. It is probably fair to say the most guys can't go out and run a 13.5 in a bonestock lightning either. Due to the same reason someone can't do it in a srt10. Throu drag radials on it and it becomes a lot easier because traction is less of an issue.
Like I said, I'm a ford guy through and through but I do find some competition intriguing and healthy for our lightnings.
Last edited by f150intally; Apr 27, 2004 at 10:25 PM.
Originally posted by Unoid
I see why this bloke has a feather up his ***.
hes canadian!
Too many anti-americans up there. Ungrateful(!) to say the least.
I'm all for the FOX News Channel Led Block on buying canadian goods, sjust as the French!
(a few exemptions are obvious, not all canadians are ultra left goons)
I see why this bloke has a feather up his ***.
hes canadian!
Too many anti-americans up there. Ungrateful(!) to say the least.
I'm all for the FOX News Channel Led Block on buying canadian goods, sjust as the French!
(a few exemptions are obvious, not all canadians are ultra left goons)
Maybe you shouldn't by an Lightning since it is Canadian goods and go by a hemi or srt 10
Btw Lightning vs hemi - there is no comparison
Originally posted by f150intally
EDIT: 330 lb difference in curb weight as listed by the manufacturers. so that is about 3 tenths difference in the 1/4.
So what is the weight difference? Do you know for sure there is a large difference in weight? Just because it has 22s doesn't mean it ways that much more. Remember 100 lbs is only a tenth of a second in the quarter.
take a lightning running 435rwhp and it will probably run a low 12 right? now add 600 lbs and you have about half a second, so a mid 12? That is if the difference is 600lbs.
I do agree on the 6 six speed argument, however I do believe there are advantages to running a six speed as well, if you are an experienced racer. It is probably fair to say the most guys can't go out and run a 13.5 in a bonestock lightning either. Due to the same reason someone can't do it in a srt10. Throu drag radials on it and it becomes a lot easier because traction is less of an issue.
Like I said, I'm a ford guy through and through but I do find some competition intriguing and healthy for our lightnings.
EDIT: 330 lb difference in curb weight as listed by the manufacturers. so that is about 3 tenths difference in the 1/4.
So what is the weight difference? Do you know for sure there is a large difference in weight? Just because it has 22s doesn't mean it ways that much more. Remember 100 lbs is only a tenth of a second in the quarter.
take a lightning running 435rwhp and it will probably run a low 12 right? now add 600 lbs and you have about half a second, so a mid 12? That is if the difference is 600lbs.
I do agree on the 6 six speed argument, however I do believe there are advantages to running a six speed as well, if you are an experienced racer. It is probably fair to say the most guys can't go out and run a 13.5 in a bonestock lightning either. Due to the same reason someone can't do it in a srt10. Throu drag radials on it and it becomes a lot easier because traction is less of an issue.
Like I said, I'm a ford guy through and through but I do find some competition intriguing and healthy for our lightnings.
Originally posted by f150intally
EDIT: 330 lb difference in curb weight as listed by the manufacturers. so that is about 3 tenths difference in the 1/4.
So what is the weight difference? Do you know for sure there is a large difference in weight? Just because it has 22s doesn't mean it ways that much more. Remember 100 lbs is only a tenth of a second in the quarter.
take a lightning running 435rwhp and it will probably run a low 12 right? now add 600 lbs and you have about half a second, so a mid 12? That is if the difference is 600lbs.
I do agree on the 6 six speed argument, however I do believe there are advantages to running a six speed as well, if you are an experienced racer. It is probably fair to say the most guys can't go out and run a 13.5 in a bonestock lightning either. Due to the same reason someone can't do it in a srt10. Throu drag radials on it and it becomes a lot easier because traction is less of an issue.
Like I said, I'm a ford guy through and through but I do find some competition intriguing and healthy for our lightnings.
EDIT: 330 lb difference in curb weight as listed by the manufacturers. so that is about 3 tenths difference in the 1/4.
So what is the weight difference? Do you know for sure there is a large difference in weight? Just because it has 22s doesn't mean it ways that much more. Remember 100 lbs is only a tenth of a second in the quarter.
take a lightning running 435rwhp and it will probably run a low 12 right? now add 600 lbs and you have about half a second, so a mid 12? That is if the difference is 600lbs.
I do agree on the 6 six speed argument, however I do believe there are advantages to running a six speed as well, if you are an experienced racer. It is probably fair to say the most guys can't go out and run a 13.5 in a bonestock lightning either. Due to the same reason someone can't do it in a srt10. Throu drag radials on it and it becomes a lot easier because traction is less of an issue.
Like I said, I'm a ford guy through and through but I do find some competition intriguing and healthy for our lightnings.
Originally posted by V!0
Its good to know there is someone without a biased opinion on this board.
Its good to know there is someone without a biased opinion on this board.
I liked my 95 Dodge truck also, but can understand why some people think they're ugly. I think it's great that Dodge jumped in with the SRT-10, and wish Chevy would bring competition also. Competition is good and I can see good and bad in all the brands. It would be a very boring world if everyone liked and drove the same thing.
One thing though, I understand that if I jump on a Dodge or Syclone board bragging about Lightnings that I'll receive a lot of grief. It's to be expected, people here aren't going to agree with your views necessarily.
Jody
Originally posted by V!0
The viper has more torque. The GT has more HP so its a toss up. Sorry i prefer engines that can make big power with no power adder. Cause you can then add a power adder and make crazy amounts of power. Like what this guy does. But whatever floats your boat.
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/...ance/index.php
The viper has more torque. The GT has more HP so its a toss up. Sorry i prefer engines that can make big power with no power adder. Cause you can then add a power adder and make crazy amounts of power. Like what this guy does. But whatever floats your boat.
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/...ance/index.php
Get this through your Dodge skull.....The engine being released in the GT has not been given to the mags for testing. What the customers are getting and what has been tested are two different engines with different HP and torque ratings.
As for your SRT and hitting 12's stock. Show the slip or video! Also, why don't you ask the mag's editor that ran the 13.1 on the SRT why a month earlier thay couldn't get the first SRT 10 they had into the 13's. SRT gave them a second truck and all of a suddon it's a 13.1?
It was a ringer. If you did 12's stock....Go throw 600lbs in the back of your truck and see what times you get. The truck had help hitting those times. I also heard they worked with the truck in the pits to do all they could to get those times.
Do you think Dodge could afford to release this truck at a price tag of $45K and have bad numbers in the article and show slower than a Lightning? Mag's get $$$ from the car manufacturer's. This has been a practice for over 35 years.
There would be no viper if chrysler didn't buy Lamborghini to benchmark and copy a sport car design. They didn't have the people to do it. So they purchased a company to copy! That is where your viper technology came from.
The GT's torque on the new engine is over 560. It's going to kick the chit out of the viper. It's only going to get better as time goes on. You can stay on here and run your mouth all day. The majority of members on this board can down right run circles around your SRT.
The L is still the "Best bang for the buck." And is still the superior truck on the street and track. Just because you have more hp doesn't mean it's the better truck. Ford with it's 5 year chassis design has a better engineered suspension that can deliver power to the pavement, take a high payload and pull 5Klbs.
How do the DCX engineers say , "SUCKER" in german?
"That will be $45K" Pleeeeease!
And the fine print says, no warranty on the clutch.
You think you got your $$$ worth. This is the best that dodge could come up with? Get on here when your SRT's are actualy wining races....
Last edited by Thor01; Apr 28, 2004 at 12:08 AM.
Originally posted by harleytruck9144
hey aaron...can you please refresh my memory and tell me what car dodge put that 528 hemi in from the FACTORY?...i must have forgot...OH WAIT! no i didnt, they never put an engine that big in any vehicle that ever rolled off their assembly line! if you wana start bringing in crate engines into the whole thing, why dont we throw a sonny racing engine in our ford truck (2100 hp) and im sure ud be checkin out our *** then!
hey aaron...can you please refresh my memory and tell me what car dodge put that 528 hemi in from the FACTORY?...i must have forgot...OH WAIT! no i didnt, they never put an engine that big in any vehicle that ever rolled off their assembly line! if you wana start bringing in crate engines into the whole thing, why dont we throw a sonny racing engine in our ford truck (2100 hp) and im sure ud be checkin out our *** then!
Does Ford (or FoMoCo) even produce the Sonny Racing Engine?
As for Unoid, you have no idea of what an *** your making youself out to be. You dont know me or anything about me so dont try and tell me what I am. So go back to eating your clam chowder (or chowdah for you) and shut up.
You give Americans a bad name, and yes I am an American. I was born there and lived there for most of my life. I moved here with my parents when I was in High School. So your conspiricy theory doesnt work. Nice try though
Last edited by Aaron_001; Apr 28, 2004 at 01:24 AM.


