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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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4 pages and not one person brought up the part that when you go WOT there is now MORE air initially being stored up AFTER the T.B.

I would have to think this is a good thing. As a matter of fact I am almost positive.



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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by VINNIE
4 pages and not one person brought up the part that when you go WOT there is now MORE air initially being stored up AFTER the T.B.

I would have to think this is a good thing. As a matter of fact I am almost positive.



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You won't believe me, but I was thinking the same thing.

Do you think that the 3psi increase in boost is just at initial tip in, or would the more boost stay constant.

Its like you have all this stored air, but you are using it up faster than you can supply it. I would think that the gain would be just from the intial WOT and then would start to deminish.

not that it would be a bad thing.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by BigFan
Lemme explain it this way for you guys who dont see the point of JLP's new product. Im in no was affiliated with any vendor, Im just using a little common sense and Mechanical background to come to conclusions.


If you have ever used a pneumatic air tool, you know that the impact gun or air ratchet has more power thru a 1/2 inch hose vs a 3/8 inch hose. Both have the same fittings on the compressor,hose and tool. The fittings (Throttlebody in our case) are not the bottleneck, its the small hose. (Plenum in our case)

Now we have Cheerleaders starting other threads on this board without even understanding the way it works. (RTKILLA this comment is in no way directed towards you)

Like I said in my 1st post the Vendor Wars are starting to begin.

Oh I know its not directed towards me cause I just asked an honest question and your answer was pretty good now that I think about my experiences in that department to with air hoses and hydraulic lines on our heavy equipment too. Makes sense but I think if where going to go threw all the trouble to make upper plenum then lets make a bigger TB too you know,
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Not to interrupt any cussing and discussing, but the level of pressure drop created by a restriction is directly proportional to its length. You would get more flow through 49.5 ft of 1/2" water hose with a 0.5 ft 1/4" restrictor on it than you will get with a 50 ft of 1/4" hose. Restrictions are cumulative. Removing the restrictive adapter plate also allows air easier access to the rotors where it can then be compressed. It also allows the blower to work as designed. The adapter plate was develped to allow use of stock upper plenum, not maximum airflow. Any restriction on the inflow (suction) side of the blower has more pronounced effect than restriction on the discharge side.

Just had a similar intake made for the KB on my 94 stang. Strictly Performance is also sporting one on his KB Cobra as well as a few other tricks.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:32 PM
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the angle of the dangle is inversely proportional to the beat of the meat
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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Originally posted b<>>>>>y Fast Gator
I e-mailed you my response to your response, Pal

I might be biased, but I love the look of welds
Bias about what ? saying that someone is gonna steal his design like your insinuating my WASP was from Apten. I know your a schitt stirrer, but your still my buddy,and I still Love you.
Do I need to remind you who it was that showed a certain picture

I never ever said there was something wrong with the welds
are we reading inbetween the lines now are we GATOR ???

Where did I say I didn't like the Weld ???

Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
Couple of questions/opinions Johnny

NICE JOB JOHNNY, I love seeing new Products and Designs that'll push the envelope.....
New designs help us all.....
I commend you for bringing us to new levels.
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I truly Love the bling look and design of the your big bad upper,
WOW LET IT BE WRITTEN BBU='s JOHNNY'S BIG BAD UPPER
ok ok I'll stop with the Abbrev's, hehehehe
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J, will that be the final design look of the welding ?

(Thats a simple question gator, I happen to think it looks awesome, and even made up a new abbrev for it) heheheheh
I'm just curious, "as others are", "if" this is Thee Prototype, or the Finished product. Your right, it's an aweosme weld job, i was not saying anything other than that schitt stirrer...
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Looks awesome JL! One Word: Bitchin
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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WHAT About a giant one for the eaton. Would that do anything?
Or does it just work on the KB because of the restricter plate?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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I talked to John this morning. He said he had an eaton version in the works and he was a month or so away from having the KB version ready for sale...

I personally like the "business" look of that intake. It says "holy *****, that ain't stock!". And I like that.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by 01Lightning
Actually increasing the size of the opening will reduce velocity. Imagine a running garden hose. If you put your thumb over the end of the hose, does the velocity increase?


ANS: Yes it does

However, the larger opening will reduce the restriction allowing a higher volume of air.
Volume. Velocity may go down, but volume skyrockets. Especially when u take out the bottleneck restriction involved with the old part. There is also the question of how much volume or how much velocity is optimal. Theory of diminishing returns...you could have a plenum 10 x bigger than that, and flow less air. Although volume is HUGE, velocity will be nearly zero. On the opposite end of the spectrum, you could have a tiny piece and have amazing velocity, but volume will be very minute. An optimal mix of the two is needed, utilizing some analysis between size vs. volume vs. velocity. (Size and flow).
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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JLP:

PLEASE ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTION!

You have a knack for posting, gathering a ton of questions and interest and then we never hear from you again.



PLEASE....
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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Dependent on the price, but I would like one of these for my eaton..... Just for heat dissipation...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Is this the product that was talked about last year the KB big mouth? Or is the big mouth a lower intake?
Shane
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by ShaneMcKenna203
Is this the product that was talked about last year the KB big mouth? Shane
No that was Gator they talked about
KING BULLSCHITTER BIG MOUTH
 
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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Looks great Johnny !

 
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