Say goodbye to oil in the IC...
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Originally posted by RED 92
I'll try to be back this evening to see if you did....
I'll try to be back this evening to see if you did....
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Originally posted by l-menace
envisioning another 15 page thread argument (like the swanson kit thread)
envisioning another 15 page thread argument (like the swanson kit thread)
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Originally posted by JeffsLightning
Information is good especially when it comes down to nailing down this oil ingestion problem..
Information is good especially when it comes down to nailing down this oil ingestion problem..
as long as it stays on topic without BS
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http://www.nloc.net/forum/showthread...e&pagenumber=1
No this is not going any further.
You see, I have had this conversation before with RED92.
He even agreed with me and
NOSURPRISE.
For those still interested, Read that entire thread.
NO SURPRISE understands , he ask the right questions, and explains it AGAIN to RED 92.
Its that simple. Red 92. You said you were going to purchase a kit.?
THANKS for your time.
Vince
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No this is not going any further.
You see, I have had this conversation before with RED92.
He even agreed with me and
NOSURPRISE.
For those still interested, Read that entire thread.
NO SURPRISE understands , he ask the right questions, and explains it AGAIN to RED 92.
Its that simple. Red 92. You said you were going to purchase a kit.?
THANKS for your time.
Vince
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I saved a quote from RED92 just in case he tries to edit it.
AGAIN.
Listen RED 92.
Im not here to argue with you. Read all of our previous conversations. You contradict yourself over and over again. I "have" answered your questions over and over again. Im just tired of it.
Take 1 idea and stick with it.
I know it hurts to have someone out think you.
But you have met your match.
(besides SURPRISE who has called you out as well)
I get the feeling that I am "not" the only one who feels this way.
You remind me of a child who constantly says
BUT WHY, BUT WHY,BUT WHY, BUT WHY, TO EVERYTHING!
Not that there is anyting "wrong" with it. Its just that you KNOW the child "understands" and he is just learning the "mind games" people play.
Sorry to slam you. Its just that after i tried to make amends with you, you still had an attitude. Its very obvious.
I really am trying to help here.
I am tired of acting like I'm in HIGHSCHOOL!
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Originally posted by Vince
I am Blocking off the rear lower hose and not worrying about boost/vacuum here. This also saves a small amount of boost loss. Using the rear lower intake hose for pcv DOES STILL DRAW IN OIL, It just deposits it UNDER the intercooler. YOur still getting oil in the intake track, just in a different spot and just not as much.
I have finished developing a kit that puts the PCV on top of the oil filler cap.
I have modified a commercial grade oil separator, that filters out 99.9% of oil and will return it back to the crankcase via the original pcv location.
Notice i said modified as you can not buy it like th
Think of it as a real oil separator, that never needs cleaning or emptying. NO MAINTENANCE.
Vince
Mail me with questions.
fasterandfaster@***.net
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no mail with questions ..keep it here so all can learn
Vince that sounds pretty cool. Sal with PSP plugged that line to the intake a few years ago and said he had some quote: wierd
deceleration issues.....I personally have not plugged that line with my PCV intact so I don't have any experience to verify Sal's thread.
you can go to F150 online and search user name LightningTuner keyword breather. At that time Sal did not understand the L PCV very good so I cant tell you if he had any other part of it modified which may have contributed to the problem he had.
A Separator tee'ing into the cam cover is something I have not thought of, its a great idea. Do you have it configured such that the crankcase venting will know to leave the cam cover through the PCV valve and not into the separator?
would you put a separator at the drivers side also?, the drivers side has an oil issue also.
....If you make a kit I'll by it just for the simple fact I was to narrow minded to think of it.
Last edited by red 92 on Jan 28th, 2004 at 09:53 AM
ENOUGH SAID.
Vince
AGAIN.
Listen RED 92.
Im not here to argue with you. Read all of our previous conversations. You contradict yourself over and over again. I "have" answered your questions over and over again. Im just tired of it.
Take 1 idea and stick with it.
I know it hurts to have someone out think you.
But you have met your match.
(besides SURPRISE who has called you out as well)
I get the feeling that I am "not" the only one who feels this way.
You remind me of a child who constantly says
BUT WHY, BUT WHY,BUT WHY, BUT WHY, TO EVERYTHING!
Not that there is anyting "wrong" with it. Its just that you KNOW the child "understands" and he is just learning the "mind games" people play.
Sorry to slam you. Its just that after i tried to make amends with you, you still had an attitude. Its very obvious.
I really am trying to help here.
I am tired of acting like I'm in HIGHSCHOOL!
quote:
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Originally posted by Vince
I am Blocking off the rear lower hose and not worrying about boost/vacuum here. This also saves a small amount of boost loss. Using the rear lower intake hose for pcv DOES STILL DRAW IN OIL, It just deposits it UNDER the intercooler. YOur still getting oil in the intake track, just in a different spot and just not as much.
I have finished developing a kit that puts the PCV on top of the oil filler cap.
I have modified a commercial grade oil separator, that filters out 99.9% of oil and will return it back to the crankcase via the original pcv location.
Notice i said modified as you can not buy it like th
Think of it as a real oil separator, that never needs cleaning or emptying. NO MAINTENANCE.
Vince
Mail me with questions.
fasterandfaster@***.net
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no mail with questions ..keep it here so all can learn
Vince that sounds pretty cool. Sal with PSP plugged that line to the intake a few years ago and said he had some quote: wierd
deceleration issues.....I personally have not plugged that line with my PCV intact so I don't have any experience to verify Sal's thread.
you can go to F150 online and search user name LightningTuner keyword breather. At that time Sal did not understand the L PCV very good so I cant tell you if he had any other part of it modified which may have contributed to the problem he had.
A Separator tee'ing into the cam cover is something I have not thought of, its a great idea. Do you have it configured such that the crankcase venting will know to leave the cam cover through the PCV valve and not into the separator?
would you put a separator at the drivers side also?, the drivers side has an oil issue also.
....If you make a kit I'll by it just for the simple fact I was to narrow minded to think of it.
Last edited by red 92 on Jan 28th, 2004 at 09:53 AM
ENOUGH SAID.
Vince
Last edited by L.V; Feb 7, 2004 at 07:51 PM.
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Originally posted by l-menace
agreed
as long as it stays on topic without BS
agreed
as long as it stays on topic without BS
Vince quotes me???? Here is one of the all knowings quotes..
IM confused as to why the PVC hose has a T- fitting and a second hose that goes to the rear of the lower manifold??
What purpose does this serve.?
Last edited by RED 92; Feb 15, 2004 at 01:30 PM.
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oh well ....now its B.S.
The problem is that I "HAVE" answered all your questions with good answers.
there is no "PERFECT SOLUTION".
An engine is no more than a waste generator. There is NO perfect way to get rid of WASTE.
My kit is not Perfect. Just plain old good and well thought of.
You just keep wanting me to EXPLAIN every single word. Word for word.
BUT WHY???
Vince
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Thank you Vince for the "Sorry to slam you" LOLOL
Well if you get to post your B.S. I get one shot at it just for you......You just could not take l-menace advice.
Vince..... ego.... go back and read your first attempt to answer my questions and tell me if you think you answered them directly. Then read my questions I numbered and answer them...how hard is that and how is that arguing?????????Is this how you treat your potential customer base...dose anyone else here think I am out of line with my question?????????????????
Can you quote yourself where you have answered one question of mine directly in this thread??????????????
if you cant answer questions I must assume you dont have a clue..and are only interested in selling your Kit ..I wont buy your kit now that I realize you dont understand the 5.4 supercharged PCV. Good Luck selling it here. Go back to NLOC and sell it .....
Your attitude in this thread has probably caused more People on F150online to doubt your expensive kit.
Vince's question answering skills
1. Listen red92
2. I am not here to argue with you
3. BUT WHY, BUT WHY,BUT WHY, BUT WHY, TO EVERYTHING
4.I "have" answered your questions over and over again. Im just tired of it.
5. Its just that you KNOW the child "understands"
6. he is just learning the "mind games" people play.
7. Sorry to slam you
8. you still had an attitude. Its very obvious
nice.
Vince, you took a quote from me on NLOC, and you never answered those questions either ......... If you could settle down and answer a question people might get the Idea you are here to help and not just line your pockets.
settle down and keep the B.S. out..., and like Jeff said. .. lets learn.
Can you accept the fact that you dont have all the answers concerning the 5.4 supercharged PCV system? I think you can ..so can questions be asked?
If you dont know just say so.......Am I the only potential customer your going to tell to stop asking questions LOL
Well if you get to post your B.S. I get one shot at it just for you......You just could not take l-menace advice.
Vince..... ego....
go back and read your first attempt to answer my questions and tell me if you think you answered them directly. Then read my questions I numbered and answer them...how hard is that and how is that arguing?????????Is this how you treat your potential customer base...dose anyone else here think I am out of line with my question?????????????????Can you quote yourself where you have answered one question of mine directly in this thread??????????????
if you cant answer questions I must assume you dont have a clue..and are only interested in selling your Kit ..I wont buy your kit now that I realize you dont understand the 5.4 supercharged PCV. Good Luck selling it here. Go back to NLOC and sell it .....
Your attitude in this thread has probably caused more People on F150online to doubt your expensive kit.
Vince's question answering skills
1. Listen red92
2. I am not here to argue with you
3. BUT WHY, BUT WHY,BUT WHY, BUT WHY, TO EVERYTHING
4.I "have" answered your questions over and over again. Im just tired of it.
5. Its just that you KNOW the child "understands"
6. he is just learning the "mind games" people play.
7. Sorry to slam you
8. you still had an attitude. Its very obvious
nice.
Vince, you took a quote from me on NLOC, and you never answered those questions either ......... If you could settle down and answer a question people might get the Idea you are here to help and not just line your pockets.
settle down and keep the B.S. out..., and like Jeff said. .. lets learn.
Can you accept the fact that you dont have all the answers concerning the 5.4 supercharged PCV system? I think you can ..so can questions be asked?
If you dont know just say so.......Am I the only potential customer your going to tell to stop asking questions LOL
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....If you make a kit I'll by it just for the simple fact I was to narrow minded to think of it.
I have answered your questons. I think here you totally understanded what i was doing.
Sorry to all for the personal side here.
Im done.
No more waisting space.
Vince
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Sorry to butt in: I just thought of something, every time I drain my oil separator, it smells like it is about as much gas as it is oil....and real thin--like gas. Would you want that going back in oil system--or would it get burnt off with heat anyway.....or ??? what am I not thinking about here?