Sounds feasible to me...Suction or vacuum under boost is a good thing for the piston rings and making more HP even if slightly..

 

This is Vince's Idea from NLOC.
Hopefully the reduction in vacuum wont result in incomplete venting. You would think with the baffle/separator in place you would leave the added vacuum source and not plug it because
(96%) of the time your in a vacuum condition.

JeffsLightning, I would check for a brown milky foam at the oil filler cap where you have your PCV located after a 100 or 200 miles. If you have that foam its not venting enough, each truck may react diferently to this modification depending on how modified the engine is. keep us updated on its performance of oil in the intake control

Engineers did supply a heavy Vacuum source at Idle and part throttle(Which is where you are 96% of the time) at the line from the intake galley which you plugged. It offsets the vacuum at WOT from the PLENUM with psi to attempt to control heavy oil in the intake, which for that time adds psi to the crankcase
causing the PCV to act in reverse and exit the inlet which is the drivers side.

I am interseted to see how that affects ventalation. Of course Swanson prevents vacuum and a path for ventalation completely at the plenum but oddly still lets vacuum pull on the cam cover from the intake galley which now is getting oil.

Also check to see if you still have oil entering from the drivers side. Check the T/B blades .........that red device,"baffle/separator"
wont prevent this.

 

I will indeed check for incomplete crankcase venting at the oil fill cap. I have tried all the kits and this one by far makes the most sense.. All of my oil problems have come from the passengerside cam cover but I'll keep an eye on the driverside also. With this setup there is no way the blower can blow back into the passengerside to pressure up the crankcase thus alowing it to vent oil out that driverside "straw" into the intake inlet boot...

 

HI red92.
The ONLY time this may occur is in freezing temps. This is why FORD unsulated the existing lines.
Kind of like when throttlebodies freeze up. This is why some manufactures flow coolant through them.

THis has occurred 1 time to me.
Granted i check it every day and have been toying this idea for months.
It only lasted 1 day.
There wont be a problem with "enough venting".
The supercharger pulls MASSIVE amounts of air through the lines.
Vince

 

Remember, the supercharger is AFTER the throttlebody. There is no reduction in vacuum.
there is no reason to have an added vacuum source.
Stop the boost loss/bypass.
All the parts are AFTER the throttlebody.


This is why i block it off.
There is no more oil here to control.
Make sense?

I have done my homework here.
Nothing is returning from the drivers side.
Test show that air is actually being pulled in from the drivers side, at all times, especially under boost. WITH MY SETUP

Am I clarifying things here.

Vince

 

red 92
we have bumped heads here in the past, but i really have done my homework here.
Please dont run over me. I have a great solution.
It may not be for everyone, but it sure does work.

I tried to contact you in the past.
Did you get my mails?
Vince

 

Your under boost a small percentage of the time.

Blow-by is great when not under boost.......which is the majority of the time. Blow-by while cruising at 70-80 for example 2 hours and under"no boost"....this is where you need the extra vacuum of the intake galley.

 

No I did not get your e-mails


and no I am not running over you and I now know you did your homework.everyone has, that dose not make them correct. But this is an open forum and I am going to post my opinion and would expect you do do the same with out complaining. We have bumped heads only because I have asked questions and you have got defensive. I welcome all here who reads this to believe that you have perfect solution. ,I dont.
I think you have a good Idea but ............

People have blindly accepted the Swanson kit, which you do not support because it was posted here., I expect the same for your kit if its priced right. I just have a few concerns.

try not to complain/attack , but explain[your cusomers are reading[/b] .....but I guess its impossible because you feel your the only one who understands the Factory PCV enough to modify the engineers design. Keep your ego out of your replys to me and I will do the same.

Yes Vince there is a reason!!!!!!Thats why the engineers have it.....a supercharged is very different than any normally aspirated gasoline engine when discussing crankcase breathing. In our case, crankcase breathing MUST be allowed to circulate both in a forward AND in a reverse direction hence the two way factory PCV valve and the PCV line to the lower intake.

And All parts are not after the throttle body Vince....The metered air inlet for our PCV system enters in the intake boot from the drivers side cam cover if you have noticed.

 

Once again.
I am not complaining or attacking.
Just trying to get along here.
I do not feel that i am the only one that understands.
I just like to keep it as simple as possible for others to understand.
I really did not have ANY ego in my last post.
I will have to ditto your last line.

I will answer all questions.
I will keep it as simple as possible.
The reason i tried to contact you was to discuss this in depth.
Respecting the fact that you are very knowledgeable, and also realizing that speaking over everyones heads only looses them was the reason for the contact.

Once again, Im sorry you took that response the wrong way.
It was not intended as you took it.

Vince

 

Vince, please try to answer questions directly so your buying public can assume you understand how the PCV sytem works in relation to your tampering.

 

If that that is correct then I would think a one way pcv valve would stop the reverse suction on the intake boot "straw"..

 

Ya Jeff , without elaborate conversions to reaction equations and formulations measuring the flow speed or the volume I would say that there will be for our purposes postive pressure at the boot entering the T/B exiting the cam cover, so I would not know what if any affect a check valve preventing flow towards the cam cover would be, or if it would be nessasary. Theoretically if you remove the airbox and have your hand inside the boot and feel the rush of air trying to enter the T/B at all throttle positions to feed the combustion chamber........flow towards the cam cover would seem to be nil at most.

 

Back to the subject.
To those interested. This is more than a baffle.

And as for the cruise vacuum concearns,
Remember that everything is after the throttleblades. Thus making things pretty relative.
We could go on for days here being specific.
Its not like a turbo, or supercharger that is mounted before the throttleblades.

Try to separate actual vacuum/boost pressure readings, with the difference here being the total volume of air being circulated at all times through the PCV with the lower hose being blocked off.

Does this help others.
With the supercharger sucking at all times, This is why i blocked off the lower (i call) bypass hose.
Without getting too deep, this is where the volume of air being sucked in the supercharger is still present at all times at the pcv line, regardless of vacuum/boost pressure readings.
Did i even make sense here??

Vince

 

I have to leave know with the kids.
I'll be back later this evening to answer more questions.

Vince

 

No , not clarifying. I tested it to ...my truck started!!!!
If your test reveled that air is entering the boot at all times then yes that would be expected and it dose this stock. if your tests show your pulling air out of the intake boot that is trying to enter the T/B? ?????????
The drivers side cam cover is the meter air inlet to the closed PCV system, correct? I know it is but you dont.-7-
thanx