HEMI Ram, what a JOKE
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Ok we're going to try this ONE MORE TIME
YES THEY DID 
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I am amazed no one has made mention of what is probably the coolest coincidence of all. The actual production engine came in at 345 c.i.d. @ 345 hp, the exact same specs as the '57 DeSoto Adventurer 345/345 Hemi, the first standard engine to make the 1hp/ci mark
Another interesting Quote
The Hemi design combustion chamber is one of the poorest designs for emissions-why do you think it took so long to get it into production? It almost did NOT make emissions test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
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The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
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The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
Quote
The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
Quote
The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
All quotes and much more here
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
EDIT: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING IN WITH THE DOUBLE POST
Originally posted by Pickup Man
Didn't DeSoto have the first Hemi design in the 50s?
Didn't DeSoto have the first Hemi design in the 50s?
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I am amazed no one has made mention of what is probably the coolest coincidence of all. The actual production engine came in at 345 c.i.d. @ 345 hp, the exact same specs as the '57 DeSoto Adventurer 345/345 Hemi, the first standard engine to make the 1hp/ci mark
Another interesting Quote
The Hemi design combustion chamber is one of the poorest designs for emissions-why do you think it took so long to get it into production? It almost did NOT make emissions test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
Quote
The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
Quote
The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
Quote
The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only.
If you read up, you'll also see this particular Hemi now offered was specifically designed to run as a 4cyl/8cyl
engine with a fancy mgmt system.
Quote
The 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be the first high-volume, modern production vehicles in North America to feature fully-functioning cylinder deactivation when they go on sale in the spring of 2004. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) will be standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT.
The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. In short, owners of the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the Hemi engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller, less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice President Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantlys test requirements even with the modifications. NOx is the problem due to the cool temp flame front inherent in the design (also why it builds so much torque). There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s.
All quotes and much more here
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
EDIT: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING IN WITH THE DOUBLE POST
Last edited by Rob_02Lightning; Jan 18, 2004 at 11:17 AM.
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Ok this is impossible
Let me try just the link
Here read the got dam article yourself
It's actually very interseting
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Let me try just the link
Here read the got dam article yourself
It's actually very interseting
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Last edited by Rob_02Lightning; Jan 18, 2004 at 11:18 AM.
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No 4 edit's in a row, if you were around here a little more,
and answered with more than one sentence, you'd know something is wacky and the dam place has a mind of it's own lately. It seems to post what ever the hell it wants to.
You have no control over editing it either ????
All you can do is delete it and try again, only for it to do as it wants AGAIN
OR SOMETHING ?????????????
EDIT:
The best part is 2 minutes ago, it only repeated itself twice,
now WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING IT, it now is repeated 4 times.
Is there a way to make my 10 Dollars Life Savings in the bank account grow like this "for no reason at all" ??? Schitt by the end of the day, I'd be a Millionaire
and answered with more than one sentence, you'd know something is wacky and the dam place has a mind of it's own lately. It seems to post what ever the hell it wants to.
You have no control over editing it either ????
All you can do is delete it and try again, only for it to do as it wants AGAIN
OR SOMETHING ?????????????
EDIT:
The best part is 2 minutes ago, it only repeated itself twice,
now WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING IT, it now is repeated 4 times.
Is there a way to make my 10 Dollars Life Savings in the bank account grow like this "for no reason at all" ??? Schitt by the end of the day, I'd be a Millionaire
Last edited by Rob_02Lightning; Jan 18, 2004 at 11:21 AM.
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From: Stinkin Joisey
Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
if you were around here a little more,
and answered with more than one sentence, you'd know something is wacky
if you were around here a little more,
and answered with more than one sentence, you'd know something is wacky
and he's
in Selden NY
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From: irving, texas
how much boost can you cram into a stock bottom end hemi? i dont think they were built for s/c i think their compression ratios are about 10:1. i know their bottom end are pretty beefy but with that amount of compression with a blower youd figure pump gas and boost = detonation
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One of our Brothers traded in his L for a Hemi and blew the
Motor a few days later, it was all stock, read a post on it yesterday.
A hemi is awesome in design, but this HEMI WAS NOT built
to be a PERFORMANCE engine. Read the article yourself, it was designes as a CHEAPER Engine than their current basic V-8.
But they already talk of a bigger and badder one in the article,
give them a few years and I think we'll see a Nice Hemi Motor
that can take a beaten like the good old days
Motor a few days later, it was all stock, read a post on it yesterday.
A hemi is awesome in design, but this HEMI WAS NOT built
to be a PERFORMANCE engine. Read the article yourself, it was designes as a CHEAPER Engine than their current basic V-8.
But they already talk of a bigger and badder one in the article,
give them a few years and I think we'll see a Nice Hemi Motor
that can take a beaten like the good old days
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From: Hammer Lane
Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
Why won't it let me edit it
MAKE IT STOP MOMMY MAKE IT STOP
Why won't it let me edit it
MAKE IT STOP MOMMY MAKE IT STOP
Hemi sucks.
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From: Edmond, Ok.
I love it when people play the "I can bolt this on and beat you" game. Well, while they are turning wrenches on their truck, you think I won't turn any on mine? They add a blower, I will add a 100 shot. They add nitrous, I add pulleys. They get more boost, I get a better burn on my chip and run race fuel. They run blue gas, I run purple and up my boost again. You add I add you add I add who gives a damn. Stock for stock, and hemi can't outrun the Lightning. The srt-10 with the average joe schmoe driving can't pull a 1.6 60 foot out of his ***, or crank out a 12 second 1/4. That is just the facts. Doctor bob buys an srt-10 cause it is a fast limited production truck. He thinks "Hey, I can drive this cause I have a 6 speed vette and can drive that". The gearbox is probably not as light as his vette, and it probably shifts like a truck. I haven't seen inside, but I assume it has a shorter shifter, but the same long winded shifts as the viper. That is my 2 cents
FLAME SUIT ACTIVATED.
FLAME SUIT ACTIVATED.