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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 12:44 AM
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YA know, I find the idea of a forum strictly for Vendor experiences (good and bad, but we all know irt would be mostly bad) a good idea. I'm still working it out in my mind, and I'm not sure it would work, but it's an interesting idea...

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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Just to back up Eaterisland. CPR stole my money too.


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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 03:42 AM
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I think an open discussion of wrongs done to customers is necessary. Knowing that all of us can hear of such dealings through this board, might just keep someone a little more honest than they would otherwise be. I have generally been very pleased with the service that I have gotten from most vendors, but I do pay attention to when someone has a gripe, and take it into consideration when planning a new purchase.

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 05:51 AM
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webmaster, sorry dude. I don't feel like I deserve sarcasm by making a suggestion I didn't say anything derogatory nor did I bash this site or say anything negative in any way. you jumping down my throat was not warranted...don't you agree?

I'll be sure to get over to NLOC. wonder how open to suggestions they are?

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 05:52 AM
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Its been awhile since I posted regularly, so what does CPR stand for
I don't want to stir up anything, jusy want to know for my own info........
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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webmaster, sorry dude. I don't feel like I deserve sarcasm by making a suggestion I didn't say anything derogatory nor did I bash this site or say anything negative in any way. you jumping down my throat was not warranted...don't you agree?
Perhaps I was a bit too sarcastic with my reply. But, are you actually requesting these things or have you simply not looked around beyond the Lightning forum to realize they already exist?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Fast Gator
Its been awhile since I posted regularly, so what does CPR stand for
I don't want to stir up anything, jusy want to know for my own info........
I think they sell parts for fuel systems..... Like pumps, regulators, rails etc etc.......
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Factory_Tech
YA know, I find the idea of a forum strictly for Vendor experiences (good and bad, but we all know irt would be mostly bad) a good idea. I'm still working it out in my mind, and I'm not sure it would work, but it's an interesting idea...

G
Greg, we tried that IRT and you are absolutely right. Aside
from the hundreds of "My vendor rocks" posts, there were
a few valid posts about problems. Maybe a "moderated"
forum would work. Giving the vendors a chance to resolve
any problems before the posting becomes public. Kinda
like the Better Business Bureaus. (Which most of our
vendors do NOT belong too!)

I would be amenable to trying again..... controlled of course
by a consistent, fair minded moderator.

Cliff
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
This wouldn't be a Forum if we couldn't somewhat express our views, weather they be negative or positive....
That idea is a great one, the problem though lies here:

IT TURNS INTO BASHING.


If some one posts a positive experience, there is bound to be 1 person to jump in and post negatives just to stir up things and it turns into a bashing session.

If some one posts a general complaint or negative comment, then bandwagon piles on with the attacks or the loyalists pop up to defend, turning it into a bash fest.


If someone wants a place where they can post positive and negative experiences about vendors, it shouldn't be on a message board. It should be a seperate message section where someone can submit a comment, and the only thing others can do is read it form there own conclusion (meaning no replying).



IMO I think Steve and Doug should have their fingers iching for the delete button. If Steve doesn't want bashing, then it should be deleted ASAP, no questions asked.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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I suppose the question is can you slander or better yet use defamation if you are a compnay?

Answer....

Oh I wish I could tell you....
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Another point of view................

I would like to hear from our supporting vendors, what they think of the current method of communication.

Here's my line of thinking...... I opened my own business in February of this year and proudly became incorporated on Aug. 5th. It is a very small side business as my main stay is in newsprint. My point of reference is, as a business owner, I would pay dearly to have an open form which discussed pro's and con's of my conduct as a supporting business. Talk about a great way to focus not only on my strengths, but more importantly on my weaknesses. If I was particularly interested in growing my business I could attempt to satisfy any customer who voiced an opinion of dis-satisfaction. Invalueable!

Think about it as a customer, have you ever bought something from a retailer and due to what ever reason you felt you received poor service and you decided never to return to that retailer........ that business owner doesn't stand a chance of gaining your business back, but this form certainly gives that opportunity. So as much as we sometimes feel a member is bashing or picking on a vender, lets not forget "they're big boys" and this information for the most part is a valueable form of communication.

Just a opinion of course.

D-Day


 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Dan_03Lightning
Another point of view................

I would like to hear from our supporting vendors, what they think of the current method of communication.

Here's my line of thinking...... I opened my own business in February of this year and proudly became incorporated on Aug. 5th. It is a very small side business as my main stay is in newsprint. My point of reference is, as a business owner, I would pay dearly to have an open form which discussed pro's and con's of my conduct as a supporting business. Talk about a great way to focus not only on my strengths, but more importantly on my weaknesses. If I was particularly interested in growing my business I could attempt to satisfy any customer who voiced an opinion of dis-satisfaction. Invalueable!

Think about it as a customer, have you ever bought something from a retailer and due to what ever reason you felt you received poor service and you decided never to return to that retailer........ that business owner doesn't stand a chance of gaining your business back, but this form certainly gives that opportunity. So as much as we sometimes feel a member is bashing or picking on a vender, lets not forget "they're big boys" and this information for the most part is a valueable form of communication.

Just a opinion of course.

D-Day
In most cases there are 3 sides to every Internet story

1) What was posted
2) What really happpened to the customer form the customers persepective
3) The Vendors view of what happened

Its unfortunate that the WHOLE truth rarely makes it here.

D-Day - YOu have to have a VERY thick skin and a VERY customer focused view to take yourattitude

Doug
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Dan_03Lightning
Another point of view................

I would like to hear from our supporting vendors, what they think of the current method of communication.

Here's my line of thinking...... I opened my own business in February of this year and proudly became incorporated on Aug. 5th. It is a very small side business as my main stay is in newsprint. My point of reference is, as a business owner, I would pay dearly to have an open form which discussed pro's and con's of my conduct as a supporting business. Talk about a great way to focus not only on my strengths, but more importantly on my weaknesses. If I was particularly interested in growing my business I could attempt to satisfy any customer who voiced an opinion of dis-satisfaction. Invalueable!

Think about it as a customer, have you ever bought something from a retailer and due to what ever reason you felt you received poor service and you decided never to return to that retailer........ that business owner doesn't stand a chance of gaining your business back, but this form certainly gives that opportunity. So as much as we sometimes feel a member is bashing or picking on a vender, lets not forget "they're big boys" and this information for the most part is a valueable form of communication.

Just a opinion of course.

D-Day


Hey Congrats.
I'm taking Corporations and Partnerships II in school. (law school that is)

I know when I open my business there is going to be a TON of agreements that will need to be signed by anyone doing business with me!

Congrats again!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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I-menace, thanks, it's been an adventure. Spartan or Wolverine?

D-Day

 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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I think that some people here are missing the big picture. We already have a forum where you are free to discuss the good, the bad and the ugly of our Supporting Vendors (and any other vendor for that matter). There are nearly 500,000 threads in the Lightning forum alone, with many of them referencing experiences with specific vendors.

I fail to see the benefit of having a forum dedicated to the topic when there are already hundreds, if not thousands of posts that can be searched covering these topics and various vendors.

The idea of a specific area for this type of discussion will only breed pointless bashing, trolls and one-sided stories. And, considering that both Doug and I are so blatantly biased towards JDM, we'd never be able to find someone qualified to moderating it.

My recommendation is for some to start a website dedicated to this idea, where someone willing to take the responsibility for moderating the he-said, she-said BS that inevitably comes with buyer's negative "experiences" is bound to overwhelm any valuable content that may come from it.

I don't necessarily make that suggestion sarcastically, but since Doug and I have been accused of being biased towards JDM because he is a Supporting Vendor, how can the F150online website or any moderator on this site be considered unbiased when it's the Supporting Vendors that help pay our bills. We would, once again, entering a no-win situation.
 

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