Let the end justify the means. If it takes a 250 shot to be the fastest then so be it. There is nothing stopping any of the other guys out there from upping or adding a shot of gas to their trucks to compete for the title of "fastest Gen 2 Lightning". Personally I would like to see some crazy **** like that, makes the whole lightning community more exciting and interesting. I am waiting to see a gen 2 break into the 9's... who will be first?

 

Lets see,

In the summer of 2001, JDM's truck was running consistant 11.60's-40's supposedly without Nitrous. This year, JDM doesnt have a single customer in the 11.40 range without nitrous, as a matter of fact, the closest JDM tuned truck has run 11.59 with no nitrous and stock blower, meanwhile, JL has numerous L's with no nitrous, with KB and eaton blowers running 11 teens and 11'0's...... hmmmm

JDM, if you had a Lightning running 11.40's with no nitrous in the heat of the day in Texas, why cant you duplicate that truck over and over again for your customers?

Yup, JDM is top dog in the MM&FF shootout, but Sal is the topdog when it comes to Nitrous equipped L's.

Maybe if you had that mysterious 166 Jim, you would be in the 9's.

Sorry about that, you have already been qouted as saying that your 99 has already been in the 9's.

Sal, you are the man, dont let Jim's bull**** get to you. He is just trying to dig himself out of a hole that he dug a long time ago.

The more you post Jim, the more you look like an A$$

Have you figured out who I am yet? Its not who you think.

 

That is exactly how it sounds.

 

I think everybody is being real childish these days about which tuner they use.Pick one and be happy. If you are in a hurry to get parts you will probley just be dissapointed.Stuff takes time when you have hundreds of customers to please. Everyone jumps on one guy because he says A is better than B while the next guy says C is the best of all.I say on the fastest gen 2 comparing times with and without nitrous is like apples and oranges. I say they get in the same truck and see who can do the best or have the same thing done to each of the trucks so it is fair to say who has the fastest truck. this is my .02cents worth.

 

Sigh...

Everyone witnessed Dave London pull some 11.40's with a stock blower and no NOS at Cecil a couple weeks ago. Get your facts straight.

Exactly when it counted! We actually pulled the truck in 1 week before the shootout to get some traction issues solved. It had been sitting for some months since the end of the FFW series while the bays are were up every single day for in house jobs

Really?? Can you please send all of us a link?

You seem to think you know a great deal about JDM and the crew. Everytime you are confronted you run away scared. Your fifteen minutes are up Grey, nobody really cares anymore.

 

I dont post alot here or any whare else, but I do read. I spend at least 2 hours a day just checking on what is going on and what to do and look out for. After reading this message board for over a year all I can say is this, the things that I have read have made me decide ,for now, not to modify my truck. We are obviously here for one reason, to talk about modding the trucks we love and drive and tell eachother about our experiences. We learn form each other and should help each other. Yes there will be disputes but I think that it is a shame when two profesionals consistently attack eachother. Sometimes one starts it sometimes it is the other. I dont have the answer but I know that this is not it and this board as a comunity can not survive with this type of division. I will get up on Monday and go to work, and so will most of us but how long will the tuners survive by striking out aginst eachother.

I use to always post on "The Corral" and on "SN95" in relation to my mustang and never did I see the attacks that I see here.

I have been reduced to a Lightning junkie that cant get his fix because he cant tell who's smack is the best and who's will make me OD.

 

but isnt SALs truck still faster????

 

all this happened with my last mod...


I was a bit worried about ordering one. I didn't want to open up the box and have the little critter escape, or not moving at all. I finally ordered one last year but the bunnies were back ordered and they wouldn't be large enough to create enough horsepower. I finally got one but was not for my truck, I tried for hours to get the bolts all the way but I ended up stripping abunch of metal and I was done with that. I returned the little guy and got my money back. Luckily enough someone else was cloning the bunnies and they were in stock. Now apparently Little Bunnies inc. has exclusive cloning right to the origional Bunny convertor! Not sure if that includes breeding or what I got before but I didn't want that mess again! But this little guy works real hard and I can tell I definatley have a "seat of the pants" increase! Its shifting was also just out of this world! My only problem with it is draining the "bunny pan"

 

I wish I could make my own damn parts and tune my my own truck!!! ....I wonder what JL's truck would run with some N20 on it??? I hate to see all this crap from EVERYONE!!!

SAL, JIM: The both of you shouldn't even post back on threads like this...IT MAKES YOU LOOK BAD!!! Both of you grow up and stop getting so upset about bullsh*t!!! You'll live longer!!! Can we please stop this and get back to tuning!!!

Sal: Get off this thread and do my re-burn j/k

 

I haven't purchased parts from either vendor but I can say that it seems to me that Jim only posts when it's in his best interest. Only when he can make himself a buck. As for Sal, he's been on here day in and day out for a long time answering the same questions over and over again. Helping out person after person. I forgive Sal for stooping to Jim's level. It's about time if you ask me. Expect a call Monday from me Sal. It's about time I give an honest vendor some well deserved business.

 

Dude please don't let threads like these make you want to not mod your truck. If you are afraid of breaking something or loosing your warrenty thats one thing. But this stuff is not whats it's about, so don't let that sway you in making your decision.

If your worried about all this trash talk about the vendors, then call of them and go with the one you like the most. Trust me you won't regret it


Rich - I thinks it's time to make a new thread were only posts about how much we like our exhaust sounds are allowed to be posted

 

He never went 11.40's Justin.

One more thing. If JDM had the truck to do it over a year before Dave did, then why arent there more JDM equipped L's running those exact same times?

Here is your list of customer trucks

Don ( ordered a KB because JDM never came thru on the 166)

Bill ( after 15 months, still waiting on the next excuse)

Skinhead ( almost a full year now without the L)

Meanwhile, Sals customers are all up and running, JL's customers ran their best times the first time out with the KB and will have more to come in the spring, all without nitrous.

Lies beget lies Justin, and when you tell enough of them, they will bite you in the a$$.

I am done here on F150, Jim doesnt need any help in his undoing.

 

Man, I can't believe this........I just noticed that my cat only comes to rub on me and let me pet it when I'm in the kitchen eating tuna fish...Is that sorry or what??? I think I'm gonna kick his *** out!!!!

 

Does this mean you are leaving us JJ? take all your little MD boys with you

 

Well, if it were me, I would find the tuner that had the fastest
damn lightning in the free world, knows how to deliver service to
customers, understands and answers email and IM messages,
and treats his customers as customers and friends.

When you figure that out, you're all set. It took several
misteps for me along the way, believe me.