King rancH Limo!
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Hey Sarman,
I think it would cost a fortune for the first couple you did and then the cost would come down. I'd guess it could cost as much as $100,000 to get started with tooling, labor and parts. The prototype version would probably take several months to complete with two or three guys working full time. You'd need a longer frame, driveshaft, brake lines, wiring, cables and the list goes on. Also, you'd need a whole new set of rear seats and I'm sure that'd be several thousand alone, plus custom carpet, head liner and list just goes on and on again.
I would think you'd need a 1/2 million to pull that thing off correctly and to get it approved by the Department of Transportaion for safety. What about crash testing, roll over testing, carrying capacity?
I think it's a neat idea but IMO, someone needs a hell of alot of money to do that job right, the investment might be huge but the return could be monumental too.
DaveMan
I think it would cost a fortune for the first couple you did and then the cost would come down. I'd guess it could cost as much as $100,000 to get started with tooling, labor and parts. The prototype version would probably take several months to complete with two or three guys working full time. You'd need a longer frame, driveshaft, brake lines, wiring, cables and the list goes on. Also, you'd need a whole new set of rear seats and I'm sure that'd be several thousand alone, plus custom carpet, head liner and list just goes on and on again.
I would think you'd need a 1/2 million to pull that thing off correctly and to get it approved by the Department of Transportaion for safety. What about crash testing, roll over testing, carrying capacity?
I think it's a neat idea but IMO, someone needs a hell of alot of money to do that job right, the investment might be huge but the return could be monumental too.
DaveMan
Last edited by DAVEMAN; 01-27-2002 at 09:25 AM.
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i think a million is way out there guys, living in the peoples republic of kalifornia i see stretched excursions all the time and the limo trucks have been popular in texas for years. if i'm not mistaken there is a shop in newport beach or hunington beach kalifornia that streches all sorts of weird vehicles into limos (saw a couple of new beetles) so it really should cost less than 50k to do. better not let sarah see that truck though as she will want one of those also, LOL, just kiddin' ya sis.
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Guys/Gals,
Begin of Rant, step onto soap box:
I guess you guys are talking about making just one. Hell, the lighted running boards being made longer could cost $100,000 to get new tooling made.
Okay, maybe if you are going to make just one or you're not trying to make it look original then it will cost a hell of a lot less. If you want to keep the exact factoty look and you want to make a boat load of them then it's not practical to use a chop shop or a custom frame mod shop.
Of course we're all guessing but I work in industrial vehicle manufacturing and it cost hunderds of thousands of dollars to tool up to make plastic parts, not to mention all the special things needed to stretch a KR into a multi-door limo.
I think the question to me is how many trucks are we talking about and to what extent are we discussing keeping the exact factory look? If we are talking just a few and no special parts, tooling, setups, fixtures, gauges or the like are required then okay it can be done for less than $100,000 and maybe as low as $50,000 but not much less than that.
If you have three guys working 8 hour days for two months and you figure a rate of say $30/hr which is cheap, then you're talking over $28,000 in labor alone. If you estimate that the labor is half and the materials is half then you're up to almost $60,000. Don't forget, it's probably not been crash tested, rollover tested and nothing done to determine if the brakes are adequate to stop it and you probably need and extra 100-200 extra horsepower to get that pig to accelerate normally.
Don't get me wrong, I think it'd be a cool looking vehicle but we all must know that the stretched limos we normally see on the road carrying folks to special events aren't just slapped together in a shop in someones back yard, it's done professionally using design Engineers with CAD drawings and models and produced using tooling and fixtures to maintain consistent quality.
End of Rant, step down off of soap box :
DaveMan
Begin of Rant, step onto soap box:
I guess you guys are talking about making just one. Hell, the lighted running boards being made longer could cost $100,000 to get new tooling made.
Okay, maybe if you are going to make just one or you're not trying to make it look original then it will cost a hell of a lot less. If you want to keep the exact factoty look and you want to make a boat load of them then it's not practical to use a chop shop or a custom frame mod shop.
Of course we're all guessing but I work in industrial vehicle manufacturing and it cost hunderds of thousands of dollars to tool up to make plastic parts, not to mention all the special things needed to stretch a KR into a multi-door limo.
I think the question to me is how many trucks are we talking about and to what extent are we discussing keeping the exact factory look? If we are talking just a few and no special parts, tooling, setups, fixtures, gauges or the like are required then okay it can be done for less than $100,000 and maybe as low as $50,000 but not much less than that.
If you have three guys working 8 hour days for two months and you figure a rate of say $30/hr which is cheap, then you're talking over $28,000 in labor alone. If you estimate that the labor is half and the materials is half then you're up to almost $60,000. Don't forget, it's probably not been crash tested, rollover tested and nothing done to determine if the brakes are adequate to stop it and you probably need and extra 100-200 extra horsepower to get that pig to accelerate normally.
Don't get me wrong, I think it'd be a cool looking vehicle but we all must know that the stretched limos we normally see on the road carrying folks to special events aren't just slapped together in a shop in someones back yard, it's done professionally using design Engineers with CAD drawings and models and produced using tooling and fixtures to maintain consistent quality.
End of Rant, step down off of soap box :
DaveMan
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