New LED headlights came in today
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Also, I know with all the opposition to your upgrade here you might be inclined to not post night pics due to ridicule, but please do. You might save others the trouble of spending the money on these by letting them see the output pattern. Sorry, I don't mean that to sound as bad as it does. I couldn't think of a better way to word that.
#17
For an actual comparison, you should try putting the halogen bulb back in on one side and driving at night. I bet you'll notice a difference in how far you can see.
I think the color looks cool, but unfortunately, that's the only reason most pull the trigger without and real knowledge of how an LED will work in a housing made specifically for a halogen bulb.
I am but no means calling you stupid or anything of the sort. The companies that want your money will claim these have been tested and will work great in the stock housing. However, when digging deeper, you find that's not true at all, as there are no housings that'll work correctly for each, since each emit light differently.
I think the color looks cool, but unfortunately, that's the only reason most pull the trigger without and real knowledge of how an LED will work in a housing made specifically for a halogen bulb.
I am but no means calling you stupid or anything of the sort. The companies that want your money will claim these have been tested and will work great in the stock housing. However, when digging deeper, you find that's not true at all, as there are no housings that'll work correctly for each, since each emit light differently.
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#19
I will not even bother because I can clearly see it wound't matter with all the experts. I can say that I am very happy with them and tested having two different friends drive towards me on a dark road and neither one had any issue with my lights. Also never got high beamed and I have been driving around all night.
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For an actual comparison, you should try putting the halogen bulb back in on one side and driving at night. I bet you'll notice a difference in how far you can see.
I think the color looks cool, but unfortunately, that's the only reason most pull the trigger without and real knowledge of how an LED will work in a housing made specifically for a halogen bulb.
I am but no means calling you stupid or anything of the sort. The companies that want your money will claim these have been tested and will work great in the stock housing. However, when digging deeper, you find that's not true at all, as there are no housings that'll work correctly for each, since each emit light differently.
I think the color looks cool, but unfortunately, that's the only reason most pull the trigger without and real knowledge of how an LED will work in a housing made specifically for a halogen bulb.
I am but no means calling you stupid or anything of the sort. The companies that want your money will claim these have been tested and will work great in the stock housing. However, when digging deeper, you find that's not true at all, as there are no housings that'll work correctly for each, since each emit light differently.
#22
I will not even bother because I can clearly see it wound't matter with all the experts. I can say that I am very happy with them and tested having two different friends drive towards me on a dark road and neither one had any issue with my lights. Also never got high beamed and I have been driving around all night.
The sad truth about just about any "improved lighting" product that simply replaces your OEM headlight bulb(s) is that the illumination source is very different from the glow emitted from the filament of a halogen bulb. (Just look at the diode placement on your new bulbs to see that difference.) And that bulb is just part of a system that also includes a lens and a reflector at minimum. All of these parts are very carefully designed and tested to work in harmony. Generally speaking, if you change any one of them out, the system will no longer work properly. The most common bad effect is glare for oncoming drivers as you've heard many of us mention. Other things that we've discovered about most aftermarket "upgrades" include poor lighting distribution, hot spots, short service life, flickering when cold, burned up OEM lighting harnesses, melted sockets, etc.
I truly do wish you well with your new headlights and it does sound like you're very happy with them. I just wish I could find the long thread from another forum I frequent where a guy started out just like you with an LED headlight bulb upgrade. He was blown away with how great the bulbs worked and I have to admit, the pictures he posted were pretty impressive. Even I was thinking of pulling the trigger despite the elders on that site saying the same stuff you're seeing here. About 35 pages into the thread, the OP - who had not been posting for a while - suddenly posted back in that he had pulled the bulbs from his truck after the second or third set had failed within one year. (Funny, he hadn't mentioned that.) He ended up admitting that all of the bad stuff he had been warned about was actually true. I just hope that doesn't happen to you.
#23
I hope you don't take offense to what may seem like "piling on" here. The truth is that many of us have "been there and done that" on just about every conceivable type of lighting improvement / modification. Like you, we've done that in search of improved lighting. What we're offering back is what we learned the hard way - and sometimes at considerable expense.
The sad truth about just about any "improved lighting" product that simply replaces your OEM headlight bulb(s) is that the illumination source is very different from the glow emitted from the filament of a halogen bulb. (Just look at the diode placement on your new bulbs to see that difference.) And that bulb is just part of a system that also includes a lens and a reflector at minimum. All of these parts are very carefully designed and tested to work in harmony. Generally speaking, if you change any one of them out, the system will no longer work properly. The most common bad effect is glare for oncoming drivers as you've heard many of us mention. Other things that we've discovered about most aftermarket "upgrades" include poor lighting distribution, hot spots, short service life, flickering when cold, burned up OEM lighting harnesses, melted sockets, etc.
I truly do wish you well with your new headlights and it does sound like you're very happy with them. I just wish I could find the long thread from another forum I frequent where a guy started out just like you with an LED headlight bulb upgrade. He was blown away with how great the bulbs worked and I have to admit, the pictures he posted were pretty impressive. Even I was thinking of pulling the trigger despite the elders on that site saying the same stuff you're seeing here. About 35 pages into the thread, the OP - who had not been posting for a while - suddenly posted back in that he had pulled the bulbs from his truck after the second or third set had failed within one year. (Funny, he hadn't mentioned that.) He ended up admitting that all of the bad stuff he had been warned about was actually true. I just hope that doesn't happen to you.
The sad truth about just about any "improved lighting" product that simply replaces your OEM headlight bulb(s) is that the illumination source is very different from the glow emitted from the filament of a halogen bulb. (Just look at the diode placement on your new bulbs to see that difference.) And that bulb is just part of a system that also includes a lens and a reflector at minimum. All of these parts are very carefully designed and tested to work in harmony. Generally speaking, if you change any one of them out, the system will no longer work properly. The most common bad effect is glare for oncoming drivers as you've heard many of us mention. Other things that we've discovered about most aftermarket "upgrades" include poor lighting distribution, hot spots, short service life, flickering when cold, burned up OEM lighting harnesses, melted sockets, etc.
I truly do wish you well with your new headlights and it does sound like you're very happy with them. I just wish I could find the long thread from another forum I frequent where a guy started out just like you with an LED headlight bulb upgrade. He was blown away with how great the bulbs worked and I have to admit, the pictures he posted were pretty impressive. Even I was thinking of pulling the trigger despite the elders on that site saying the same stuff you're seeing here. About 35 pages into the thread, the OP - who had not been posting for a while - suddenly posted back in that he had pulled the bulbs from his truck after the second or third set had failed within one year. (Funny, he hadn't mentioned that.) He ended up admitting that all of the bad stuff he had been warned about was actually true. I just hope that doesn't happen to you.
I melted the factory harness on a 2001 Dodge Stratus. Had to splice on new pigtails and a few feet of wiring and chase down burnt fuses till I got it fixed. I have 3 pairs of Xentec H13's in my garage right now, complete with ballasts that came out of my 08 F150 and my ex's Escape. Never again.
#24
I will say the 2009 factory F150 halogen housings have a pretty well designed reflector bowl that has a decent "cutoff" built into the headlight.
That being said, it's designed for halogen bulb, which sits in a very specific location and emits light in an even and perfect 360*
Single LED or a complicated array of LEDs simply can't ever emit light in an even 360* not to mention the mounting depth could be different.
That being said, it's designed for halogen bulb, which sits in a very specific location and emits light in an even and perfect 360*
Single LED or a complicated array of LEDs simply can't ever emit light in an even 360* not to mention the mounting depth could be different.
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It's easy to see all those lit up signs and the stripes in the street and attribute that to better lighting. Atleast, when you first get them.
I'll tell you when it hit me was driving from Dallas to Pensacola and hitting heavy fog over the I10 Basin Bridge. That was like driving through marshmallow whip.
I'll tell you when it hit me was driving from Dallas to Pensacola and hitting heavy fog over the I10 Basin Bridge. That was like driving through marshmallow whip.
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And that's the problem most reviews are from people that don't know any better, and pictures are doctored up to look like better output. It's very deceiving. But that's why we gave forums so people can read about what's crap and what's good.