,,,,see post below

 

This unit does offer data logging, and it has a usb port to hook up to your computer with their software.

not as of yet. i'll email the engineer with and ask him.

yes, you can adjust the shift firmness and pressure in all three programs,

the cover of the instruction book i have says 2004-2006 f150 5.4 and 4.6, but this isn't the final version of the instruction manual, so i'm not completely possitive but i would assume it would work for both

 

Its going to be a generic tune, correct?

 

yes and no. it allows you to go in and tweak each of the three tunes. it allow you to change: wot fuel amount (amount of fuel injected at wot), normal fuel amount injected (reasonably lower this and it helps gas mileage is what it says) wot shift points for each gear, normal shift points for each gear, octane of fuel (this changes the timing..etc...) tire size, gear ratio, shift firmness, wot shift firmness, i'm sure i missed a couple things because the instruction booklet is at home. but you get the idea.

 

Well - the Xcal2 with TP's custom tuning typically nets significantly more power than the 17xx 'canned' products. All of that info can be found by Searching the 'Chips' forum - a proven fact, well documented for those who care to look, and a no-brainer.

And the 17xx's are known to be 'best-of-breed' as far as all of the 'canned' tuners in terms of performance gains.

So, it follows that the 'canned' tunes in the Edge (which is not yet for sale, btw), will not exceed the performance of the 17xx tuners, and hence will lag significantly behind Troyer custom tuning by about the same margin, if not more.

Plus you are basically stuck with those tunes, as you cannot know (and the included adjustments are too limited & not flexible enough) how to modify them safely to accomodate future mods, let alone dial it in for your specific vehicle, properly.

It does have the 'edge' in display features, I'll grant that, for now: the Xcal2 is going to get a separate display screen as well.

Thanks for the correction on the datalogging - but to put that info to good use, you'd need to have full access to the tunes - and you don't. Gross adjustments to the fuel curve, or global spark, across the board ,is nowhere near good enough, nor even a good idea in some cases.

Me, I'll pay a premium for performance first, and a PROVEN, future-proof product - the 'bling' takes a back seat.

This is nothing more than a 17xx clone on sterioids - it's still a dead-end and inflexible product from a performance tuning perspective. But, good marketing and 'flash' sell - whatever. There's one born every day...


A 17xx ( $300) + a Scanguage ($150) + some DWV stock ($10) = still cheaper than the Edge

Cheers
Grog

 

I want to see DYNO comparisons!!!

 

Hey caveman, got that fire stoked up? Bronasorous burgers on the grill?

Push.....puuuuuuushhh.....

Looky, here comes another.

Joey

 

Hiya Joey - Ice Age is over - I'm all thawed out.

And you know: garbage in = garbage out. Chitburgers are a renewable resource, btw.

Cheers
Grog

 

I will admit that Mike Troyer knows his schitt.....but I am really getting tired of hearing some members rag on others tuning ability....there is no ONE god when it comes to this issue....so please quit spewing out the XCAL and MIKE as if it is the only route to go if you want a good tune....

 

SERIOUSLY... I dont know how anyone could rag on this edge without even trying it, or even knowing anyone that has tried it. this thing puts down some serious power, atleast sotp.

 

More PICS with the bracket

 

i actually havent gotten the pod yet, they dont even have them yet, he told me last night that they should be in today. I'm gonna call him in about an hour to see if he got them in yet. then if they're in i'll swing by and grab it and get some pics up as soon as i can.

 

Thank you. . .

 

WTF? You say you'll pay a premium for performance, "PROVEN" future-proof product and then say you'd use the DWV intake contraption. That's a low dollar POS that someone put together using drainage pipe. Someone did it and claims it was great. Is that "PROVEN" to you? You're right, there's one born every day.

 

that makes two of us