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Old 01-08-2018, 11:35 AM
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I guess by now most of you have read about the coming F150 3.0 Diesel. It makes 250hp and 440 lbs torque. Fuel mileage is 30 mpgs. It's also a $4000.00 premium to a 2.7EB engine. Obviously it will never pay for itself at that kind of a premium. At $2400.00 premium to the 3.5 EB engine, it's about a break even considering fuel prices today. My personal self, if I was pulling a trailer a lot, the EB would be my choice. Simple maintenance and driver friendly. I think Ford missed the mark just like Ram did. To buy one will be for the novelty factor. Ram sales figures are down and the expected 20% of buyers for the diesel option has not developed since the introduction.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:25 PM
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I saw that this morning too.

Just like you said... it's a niche product. Just like manual transmissions in pickups.

When I'm ready, I'm just going all out on a F-Superduty of some sort with the PSD. This way towing most anything will become a reality.

I really don't give a hoot about fuel mileage, cause if I can afford a SD, then I can afford it's terrible fuel mileage.

Definitely not interested in a F150 diesel.
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 02:20 PM
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It might be just me, but I completely fail to understand the economics of a diesel in an F-150. There's simply no way that the option even comes close to paying for itself in less than 100,000 miles.
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 02:46 PM
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the guys i know with the dodge diesel get about 2 mpg better than my 3.5 eco.

i would rather see a hybrid option over a diesel.

for years i have heard so much bs about diesels. everyone knows a guy that knows a guy that with a tune that runs 11's and get 35 mpg. of coarse i am sure alot of guys have convinced the wife that diesels will save so much on mpg and they last longer.

to me the only reason i buy a diesel is a 3/4 or 1 ton that I tow with often, then and only then does it make sense to me. i better be pulling a minimum of once a month. At that it is more for the power than the mpg.
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 04:21 PM
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I'll pass on it. It might pay for itself eventually but with diesel still priced higher than 87 that will take a whole lot of miles. By the time it's broken even the truck will be on its last leg. In a SD the Powerstroke is expensive but you get a lot of power for the money. In the 150 you get less power than the 3.5 EB which costs nearly $3k less. No thanks, I don't make enough to be that stupid with money.
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:54 PM
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Diesel here is more expensive than full 91 premium right now.
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:37 PM
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Leave the F150 alone. It has great engine choices as it stands. They need to concentrate on the Ranger.. Put that diesel in the Ranger along with the 2.7 EB with maybe a 3.3 base engine option?? GM looks to be doing pretty well with their Duramax Canyon and Colorado.
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:20 PM
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I'm guessing the Ranger will have a standard 4 banger when it gets here - probably an Ecoboost.
 
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Not to mention they're locking the diesel option to top trim trucks..... Not everyone wants all the frills of a Lariat, KR, or Platinum


I wonder of they're limiting it based on a limited supply of engines on hand, and they will open it up to more trims levels for 2019



The 440 Tq sounds amazing at 1750 RPMs, but I don't work my truck hard enough to *need* that power down low
 
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:45 AM
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The diesel comes with a 10-speed automatic transmission and will be available in a variety of configurations. Fleet buyers can get it in XL and XLT work-focused trims, while retail customers can choose from a selection of Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum SuperCrew models with 4x2 and 4x4 drivetrains. It’ll even be available in F-150s fitted with the off-road FX4 package, but a Raptor diesel is not in the offing. Sorry.
 
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I suppose getting the cafe up is the point.

Years ago, a co-worker was debating getting a diesel and decided that it would take over 100k miles to break even on the cost. So that justification has always been there. Not interested in a diesel unless my wife and I buy a big travel trailer and spend several months a year touring and then it wouldn't be a F150. the small diesel Mercedes seems to be the popular choice for small motorhomes though.
 
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Not to mention they're locking the diesel option to top trim trucks..... Not everyone wants all the frills of a Lariat, KR, or Platinum


I wonder of they're limiting it based on a limited supply of engines on hand, and they will open it up to more trims levels for 2019



The 440 Tq sounds amazing at 1750 RPMs, but I don't work my truck hard enough to *need* that power down low
I would suspect that it will be like the 6.2, limited at first then more widely available. I also saw where fleet buyers can get it in any trim.

That same amount of torque is available with the 3.5EB for a couple thousand less. It's hard to justify it.
 
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What they need to do is make it similarly priced to the gas engine variants. Just like what Wookie said, you can get the gas powered 3.5EB for a couple thousand less. So what's the point?

I remember when I was a kid, the diesel options were just about the same as the gas options or sometimes less.

Then again, sometimes no one wanted a diesel engine because they were for one, stinky, noisy, and slow. But would usually last forever.
 
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:31 PM
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I think the price of a F-150 diesel may be in the 60 to 65K range depending on trim. Payload will be lower then the gas engine models so your stuck if trying to haul a fifth wheel with any kind of weight or a heavy load. May be better suited for a long distance commuter vehicle more then anything. Ram and Nissan 1/2 and 5/8 tons are rare down here and there has to be a reason.
 
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:21 PM
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Payload will be lower then the gas engine models
Not much. Max tow will be 11400#. Ram diesels have a low payload and a 9200# tow rating, but it doesn't look like Ford will be like that.

The Nissan may have reliability issues. It's rated to tow 12k.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rm-test-review
 
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