F150 Diesel
#1
F150 Diesel
I guess by now most of you have read about the coming F150 3.0 Diesel. It makes 250hp and 440 lbs torque. Fuel mileage is 30 mpgs. It's also a $4000.00 premium to a 2.7EB engine. Obviously it will never pay for itself at that kind of a premium. At $2400.00 premium to the 3.5 EB engine, it's about a break even considering fuel prices today. My personal self, if I was pulling a trailer a lot, the EB would be my choice. Simple maintenance and driver friendly. I think Ford missed the mark just like Ram did. To buy one will be for the novelty factor. Ram sales figures are down and the expected 20% of buyers for the diesel option has not developed since the introduction.
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/01/...ze-pickup.html
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/01/...ze-pickup.html
#2
I saw that this morning too.
Just like you said... it's a niche product. Just like manual transmissions in pickups.
When I'm ready, I'm just going all out on a F-Superduty of some sort with the PSD. This way towing most anything will become a reality.
I really don't give a hoot about fuel mileage, cause if I can afford a SD, then I can afford it's terrible fuel mileage.
Definitely not interested in a F150 diesel.
Just like you said... it's a niche product. Just like manual transmissions in pickups.
When I'm ready, I'm just going all out on a F-Superduty of some sort with the PSD. This way towing most anything will become a reality.
I really don't give a hoot about fuel mileage, cause if I can afford a SD, then I can afford it's terrible fuel mileage.
Definitely not interested in a F150 diesel.
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#4
the guys i know with the dodge diesel get about 2 mpg better than my 3.5 eco.
i would rather see a hybrid option over a diesel.
for years i have heard so much bs about diesels. everyone knows a guy that knows a guy that with a tune that runs 11's and get 35 mpg. of coarse i am sure alot of guys have convinced the wife that diesels will save so much on mpg and they last longer.
to me the only reason i buy a diesel is a 3/4 or 1 ton that I tow with often, then and only then does it make sense to me. i better be pulling a minimum of once a month. At that it is more for the power than the mpg.
i would rather see a hybrid option over a diesel.
for years i have heard so much bs about diesels. everyone knows a guy that knows a guy that with a tune that runs 11's and get 35 mpg. of coarse i am sure alot of guys have convinced the wife that diesels will save so much on mpg and they last longer.
to me the only reason i buy a diesel is a 3/4 or 1 ton that I tow with often, then and only then does it make sense to me. i better be pulling a minimum of once a month. At that it is more for the power than the mpg.
#5
I'll pass on it. It might pay for itself eventually but with diesel still priced higher than 87 that will take a whole lot of miles. By the time it's broken even the truck will be on its last leg. In a SD the Powerstroke is expensive but you get a lot of power for the money. In the 150 you get less power than the 3.5 EB which costs nearly $3k less. No thanks, I don't make enough to be that stupid with money.
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#9
Not to mention they're locking the diesel option to top trim trucks..... Not everyone wants all the frills of a Lariat, KR, or Platinum
I wonder of they're limiting it based on a limited supply of engines on hand, and they will open it up to more trims levels for 2019
The 440 Tq sounds amazing at 1750 RPMs, but I don't work my truck hard enough to *need* that power down low
I wonder of they're limiting it based on a limited supply of engines on hand, and they will open it up to more trims levels for 2019
The 440 Tq sounds amazing at 1750 RPMs, but I don't work my truck hard enough to *need* that power down low
#10
The diesel comes with a 10-speed automatic transmission and will be available in a variety of configurations. Fleet buyers can get it in XL and XLT work-focused trims, while retail customers can choose from a selection of Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum SuperCrew models with 4x2 and 4x4 drivetrains. It’ll even be available in F-150s fitted with the off-road FX4 package, but a Raptor diesel is not in the offing. Sorry.
#11
I suppose getting the cafe up is the point.
Years ago, a co-worker was debating getting a diesel and decided that it would take over 100k miles to break even on the cost. So that justification has always been there. Not interested in a diesel unless my wife and I buy a big travel trailer and spend several months a year touring and then it wouldn't be a F150. the small diesel Mercedes seems to be the popular choice for small motorhomes though.
Years ago, a co-worker was debating getting a diesel and decided that it would take over 100k miles to break even on the cost. So that justification has always been there. Not interested in a diesel unless my wife and I buy a big travel trailer and spend several months a year touring and then it wouldn't be a F150. the small diesel Mercedes seems to be the popular choice for small motorhomes though.
#12
Not to mention they're locking the diesel option to top trim trucks..... Not everyone wants all the frills of a Lariat, KR, or Platinum
I wonder of they're limiting it based on a limited supply of engines on hand, and they will open it up to more trims levels for 2019
The 440 Tq sounds amazing at 1750 RPMs, but I don't work my truck hard enough to *need* that power down low
I wonder of they're limiting it based on a limited supply of engines on hand, and they will open it up to more trims levels for 2019
The 440 Tq sounds amazing at 1750 RPMs, but I don't work my truck hard enough to *need* that power down low
That same amount of torque is available with the 3.5EB for a couple thousand less. It's hard to justify it.
#13
What they need to do is make it similarly priced to the gas engine variants. Just like what Wookie said, you can get the gas powered 3.5EB for a couple thousand less. So what's the point?
I remember when I was a kid, the diesel options were just about the same as the gas options or sometimes less.
Then again, sometimes no one wanted a diesel engine because they were for one, stinky, noisy, and slow. But would usually last forever.
I remember when I was a kid, the diesel options were just about the same as the gas options or sometimes less.
Then again, sometimes no one wanted a diesel engine because they were for one, stinky, noisy, and slow. But would usually last forever.
#14
I think the price of a F-150 diesel may be in the 60 to 65K range depending on trim. Payload will be lower then the gas engine models so your stuck if trying to haul a fifth wheel with any kind of weight or a heavy load. May be better suited for a long distance commuter vehicle more then anything. Ram and Nissan 1/2 and 5/8 tons are rare down here and there has to be a reason.
#15
Payload will be lower then the gas engine models
The Nissan may have reliability issues. It's rated to tow 12k.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rm-test-review