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Old 04-06-2016, 04:50 PM
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Trump is a narcissist blow hard
You know Barney, can you even for one second imagine how the mind works of anyone that wants the job of being the leader of arguably the most powerful country on the planet? Most of us don't want to be president of the local civic club, PTA, city council or a service club, these guys want to be president of it all and you don't think every single one of them has a little of a narcissistic side in them?

i am not saying it makes him a great human being. i am just saying you need to be honest about the type of people willing to hold that power and why any of them do it.
 
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:24 PM
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One of the leadership training classes I took when I was an employee of an electric utility was about types of personalities. We answered a bunch of questions and the results placed us in a block that was a part of a huge square with lots of blocks. All of us were congregated in blocks that were located in the lower right quadrant of the huge square. The instructor told us that Ronald Reagan was in the upper left quadrant and so was Hitler. I'm not sure how they determined Hitler would have answered the questions. But, thinking about the questions we answered, I don't know how anybody could have been placed in the upper left quadrant. The exercise was to show how great leaders are often very different from us normal peons.
 
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As an "outsider" I really don't have much in this. I gotta say though, IF Trump gets in (I don't think it will happen personally), his focus on "Making America Great Again" may alienate the US from the rest of the world.

I didn't really dig into it, but saw that Trump sure has a lot of Arab business partners. I doubt he is going to abandon them and their oil money for the sake of 'Merica...

I understand the desire for some to want things to be the way they were, but it just isn't going to happen. There are too many dependencies on the world and it's resources. In the end, how often do politicians actually follow through with their promises???
 
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown F-150
In the end, how often do politicians actually follow through with their promises???
But Trump isn't a politician...yet. But IMHO, I think neither Trump nor Cruz stand a chance against the hildebeast. The only one who could possibly beat the beast is Kasich and he will never get the nod.
 
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown F-150
As an "outsider" I really don't have much in this. I gotta say though, IF Trump gets in (I don't think it will happen personally), his focus on "Making America Great Again" may alienate the US from the rest of the world.

I didn't really dig into it, but saw that Trump sure has a lot of Arab business partners. I doubt he is going to abandon them and their oil money for the sake of 'Merica...

I understand the desire for some to want things to be the way they were, but it just isn't going to happen. There are too many dependencies on the world and it's resources. In the end, how often do politicians actually follow through with their promises???
What is wrong with expecting to be treated fairly? The rest of the world has been taking advantage of the USAs good will. The trade agreements are violated by many countries and we let them get away with it. "Free trade" is a one way street in many instances. Many NATO members are not paying their agreed upon share and depending on the US to protect them. Businesses want the "cheap" illegal immigrant labor and the democrats want the future voters in order to turn this country into a socialist country. The labor is only cheap to the businesses because taxpayers are subsidizing the labor. Trump is the only one who wants to do something about all of this taking advantage of the USA. We protect Saudi Arabia and they are trying to bankrupt all of the fracking companies who challenge their oil sales. NOBODY else was talking about these important issues until Trump brought them up. Now, Cruz has adopted most of Trump's issues as his own. I have very little respect for Cruz. He is a two faced politician just like most of the power and money crazy buttholes in Washington.
 
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:23 PM
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Ann Coulter on the subject of Trump and Cruz.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/20...html#read_more
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:35 AM
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What is wrong with expecting to be treated fairly? The rest of the world has been taking advantage of the USAs good will. The trade agreements are violated by many countries and we let them get away with it. "Free trade" is a one way street in many instances. Many NATO members are not paying their agreed upon share and depending on the US to protect them. Businesses want the "cheap" illegal immigrant labor and the democrats want the future voters in order to turn this country into a socialist country. The labor is only cheap to the businesses because taxpayers are subsidizing the labor. Trump is the only one who wants to do something about all of this taking advantage of the USA. We protect Saudi Arabia and they are trying to bankrupt all of the fracking companies who challenge their oil sales. NOBODY else was talking about these important issues until Trump brought them up. Now, Cruz has adopted most of Trump's issues as his own. I have very little respect for Cruz. He is a two faced politician just like most of the power and money crazy buttholes in Washington.
So, I may not be reading what you're saying correctly, but Trump isn't going to do anything about the Saudi's...They back a large part of his business. There is even one prince that stated he bailed trump out twice.

He may be "talking" about the issues, but he isn't saying much about what he's actually going to do about it.

If you want to stop America from "getting taken advantage of", stop going to Walmart. The people need to make changes in their everyday lives, the government isn't going to change it for you and company's aren't going to change until it hurts their bottom dollar.

You seem to be against big business cheating the system, but not against Trump and yet that is exactly what he did by having corporations under his belt file for bankruptcy 4 times. He's only in it for himself and to get another 15 minutes of fame.

All I see (although I know it's hyped up by the media) is Trump instigating hate, segregation and ignorance.
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 05RedFX4
But Trump isn't a politician...yet. But IMHO, I think neither Trump nor Cruz stand a chance against the hildebeast. The only one who could possibly beat the beast is Kasich and he will never get the nod.
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Trump is not a "Career" politician, but considering he is playing the game and trying to be nominated to lead a political party, I call him a politician

It is interesting watching from the sidelines, but sad at the same time.
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:43 AM
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Walmart stayed with US goods as long as possible. They used to advertise that fact. After a while there wasn't much to offer that was made in the USA. Blaming the current situation on the consumer is all wrong. We will not bring our industry back the way it used to be because of the cost of labor. But, the whole point is that the US is allowing other countries to take advantage of our "free trade" deals. And our military umbrella. We should work at leveling the playing field. And use our military to protect our interests, not the interests of the socialists in Europe who won't spend the money to protect themselves.
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown F-150
So, I may not be reading what you're saying correctly, but Trump isn't going to do anything about the Saudi's...They back a large part of his business. There is even one prince that stated he bailed trump out twice.

He may be "talking" about the issues, but he isn't saying much about what he's actually going to do about it.

If you want to stop America from "getting taken advantage of", stop going to Walmart. The people need to make changes in their everyday lives, the government isn't going to change it for you and company's aren't going to change until it hurts their bottom dollar.

You seem to be against big business cheating the system, but not against Trump and yet that is exactly what he did by having corporations under his belt file for bankruptcy 4 times. He's only in it for himself and to get another 15 minutes of fame.

All I see (although I know it's hyped up by the media) is Trump instigating hate, segregation and ignorance.
DING, DING, DING!!!!! Give that man a cigar! Blown F150 you nailed it. I don't know why it is SO hard for people to see through Trump. And yes he is a politician in every sense of the word.
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:21 PM
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So, I may not be reading what you're saying correctly, but Trump isn't going to do anything about the Saudi's...They back a large part of his business. There is even one prince that stated he bailed trump out twice.

You're entitled to your opinion but that is what it is, an opinion. Trump has said he will make them pay for our protection is they want it.

He may be "talking" about the issues, but he isn't saying much about what he's actually going to do about it.

And neither is any other candidate. The truth is unless you are Barack Obama, there isn't much a president can change without convincing Congress to make law. One thing he can do it enforce existing law, enforce our immigration law. That would be something new and different.

If you want to stop America from "getting taken advantage of", stop going to Walmart. The people need to make changes in their everyday lives, the government isn't going to change it for you and company's aren't going to change until it hurts their bottom dollar.

Expecting individual consumers to change things as individuals is not realistic at all. The Government is supposed to be acting in the best interest of our country and thereby the interest of the people.

You seem to be against big business cheating the system,

As long as Big Business acts within the law, they are supposed to act in the best interest of their stockholders. The Government is supposed to enact laws for big business to abide by that protect the best interest of country and the people.

but not against Trump and yet that is exactly what he did by having corporations under his belt file for bankruptcy 4 times. He's only in it for himself and to get another 15 minutes of fame.

Businesses use bankruptcy in accordance with the LAW when they need to to protect their stockholders. If this is unfair, the government should change the LAW.



All I see (although I know it's hyped up by the media) is Trump instigating hate, segregation and ignorance.
This sounds like a nonsensical liberal talking point. Why is it "hate" to enforce our existing immigration laws? It isn't. Look at Europe. They have allowed so many people from the middle east into their countries that their people are living in terror now of getting blown up or shot. There are parts of many European cities that are ruled by sharia law and where non hard core muslims are afraid to go. It is smart to not allow any refugees from the middle east into our country unless they can be fully vetted to make as sure as possible they don't represent a threat to us.

I haven't heard anything about segregation. That's a new one. It is ignorant to vote for these crooked politicians who are only interested in keeping their power and office and enrich themselves in the process.

It is ignorance to keep voting for the same politicians that espouse the same old political BS and expect things to change. If you are happy with the direction of the country now vote for an establishment politician because you will get more of the same.

Trump represents a chance for us to change our country for the better. Nobody else who is running for president will do that.
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:28 PM
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Sounds like a white version of "Hope and Change" neither of which I have any left! What is frustrating is that most Cruz supporters say they will vote for Trump in the general election. OTOH very few Trump supporters say they will vote for Cruz, should he get the nomination. To me Trump seems to be a combination of Obama and Ross Perrot, his ego points to taking a wrecking ball to the process if he is not the nominee. If that is the case then for sure the Dems take the White house and it is game over. Trump is anything except a "uniter" and with each loss he has he gets even uglier.
 
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:35 PM
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This sounds like a nonsensical liberal talking point. Why is it "hate" to enforce our existing immigration laws? It isn't. Look at Europe. They have allowed so many people from the middle east into their countries that their people are living in terror now of getting blown up or shot. There are parts of many European cities that are ruled by sharia law and where non hard core muslims are afraid to go. It is smart to not allow any refugees from the middle east into our country unless they can be fully vetted to make as sure as possible they don't represent a threat to us.

I haven't heard anything about segregation. That's a new one. It is ignorant to vote for these crooked politicians who are only interested in keeping their power and office and enrich themselves in the process.

It is ignorance to keep voting for the same politicians that espouse the same old political BS and expect things to change. If you are happy with the direction of the country now vote for an establishment politician because you will get more of the same.

Trump represents a chance for us to change our country for the better. Nobody else who is running for president will do that.
Well, again I haven't been to a Trump Rally, but I have watched a couple.

Trump spreads hate and segregation by the way he speaks about those he is "Kicking out" of his rallies. I mean seriously, what kind of respectable human talks about punching people in the face. He talks constantly about what he could do and not lose a single vote. How is that image supposed to gain any ground on the world stage. Ruling by fear is plain wrong.

Walmart is just pandering to the crowd. People want cheap and they are getting it, but it comes at a cost.

I gotta ask, what do you think is going to happen if the free-trade agreement gets changed?? Do you realize that all the goods you rely on everyday are just going to go up in price, one way or another? Either the tariffs will drive up the price or the cost of making it in the USA will drive the price up.
Nobody is taking advantage of America more than it's allowing. Same with us in Canada, we want everything and we want it now. That means whomever can supply what we want at the lowest costs, wins.

You may also want to see what's can happen if you try to cut off the US from Middle-East Oil. Be ready for pump prices to sky-rocket.

In the end, we can all see how it's going to pan out. I don't think it's going to go down how you figure....
 
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:34 AM
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I'm not sure what the numbers are now but several years ago when the US had a $60 billion trade deficit every month, the US was buying $60 billion worth of foreign oil every month. Our trade deficit is still in the 40 to 50 billion dollar per month range. There is a future cost to this imbalance. The cost is that foreign governments and citizens are buying up property and businesses in the US at an alarming rate. Saudi Arabia now owns the largest oil refinery in the USA. Since businesses donate the money that controls all of your favorite politicians, they will control the US sooner than you think. We are learning from this election that the citizens vote does not elect the politicians. The parties elect them. The party leaders are bought and paid for. Energy independence is a very worthy cause. That is why Saudi Arabia is trying to kill our fracking industry. The US would not be dependent on them or anyone else for oil in the next decade and wouldn't be sending them billions of US dollars every month. It would be worth it to pay a little more for US goods if it corrects the trade imbalance and cheaper in the long run.

Trump has been saying what many people have been thinking. That is one reason he is popular. When protesters try to disrupt his rallies from inside the rally, it makes his supporters angry and rightfully so. It's always the liberal groups that are the disrupters. conservative republicans in general don't try to disrupt dumocratic rallies. Maybe they are working at their jobs?
 
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:47 AM
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Sounds like a white version of "Hope and Change" neither of which I have any left! What is frustrating is that most Cruz supporters say they will vote for Trump in the general election. OTOH very few Trump supporters say they will vote for Cruz, should he get the nomination. To me Trump seems to be a combination of Obama and Ross Perrot, his ego points to taking a wrecking ball to the process if he is not the nominee. If that is the case then for sure the Dems take the White house and it is game over. Trump is anything except a "uniter" and with each loss he has he gets even uglier.
Well, Trump supporters are seeing the election being stolen from Trump by the party. Cruz gets all of the delegates in CO and there was no vote. Same as ND. Cruz ended up with the majority of the delegates in LA even though Trump won the state. What kind of screwed up system is this? It's almost as bad as the dumocratic super delegates. Trump supporters are rightfully feeling disenfranchised. Besides they see Cruz as the two faced butt hole that he really is. Between the Bernie supporters refusing to vote for Hillary and the Trump supporters refusing to vote for Cruz, it's going to be an interesting election for sure. Both parties have no one to blame if they lose the election but the party leaders.
 


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