You have a link to any of this? I'm really curious how someone trashed an intercooler. It's nothing more than an air to air heat exchanger, there's no moving parts.

FYI, I looked up the parts prices Tasca sells the turbos for new for $500 and $540 and the intercooler for $170. The other option is to just rebuild the turbo since the only thing that really goes out on one is the seals or bearings. The rebuild kit can vary from $50-$100 depending on where you go and if you buy upgraded parts etc.

OP, sorry about your bum luck. Sounds like you got a late Friday afternoon build if brackets are bent up. Where was the oil leak coming from? Could it have been a cooling line that wasn't connected correctly?

 

I don't doubt that at all.

Then they can play with their turbo-whistle just like the big boys with the diesels

 

I been hearing that since the 70's.

 

That's not exactly the case and here is why:

Quick Summary:

Diesel
Low RPM
Low Boost
High Volume of Air
Lots of Warm Exhaust Gases
Slow Spool Up
Almost No Back Pressure on Throttle Close

Gasoline
Variable RPM
High Boost
Variable Volume
Hot Exhaust Gases
Quick Spool Up
Hard Back Pressure on Throttle Close

Here is the link to why turbos on gas engines are very different than diesel: http://www.wcengineering.com/articles/dieselturbo.html


Let's ask ourselves a hypothetical question: Why are consumers buying ecoboosts for towing rather than a diesel? The answer is they don't want to spend the money for the diesel. Some people are sold the eco for other reasons and to my chagrin, some people think they are saving gas/money and that eco is an investment. Others just like the potential for a faster truck and know that eco has more potential for more power cheaper.

Now we have come full circle to saving money. What I don't get is for the money many people are pouring into eco, they could get a diesel if that is what they are trying to do (tow). I really just don't get the eco-fad. It reminds me of the pet rock.

 

The other option is to bypass all of the future expenses and the immediate hit of $1000 on purchase and buy the 5.0. Oops! You skipped that option. You also forgot that whoever buys the parts at the prices you say needs to do the work themselves. I've removed and replaced turbos. Those were pretty easy; I don't know about the eco's. I sent mine out to have them rebuilt and it was not cheap, so I am thinking there must be some effort involved. So you know, I am one of those guys that does a lot himself and I would be reluctant to tear down a turbo. Let me know if you ever do that how it went.

Here's a video on how too:

 

Google is your friend! Plenty of reading! One dude had a rod blow through the block at. 77 k miles! Try rebuilding that!

 

Actually I prefer Bing, I did search but the only results for the intercooler were for condensation issues. I could not find a case where the actual intercooler failed. That's why I asked if you had a link. What I did find is a ton of posts by ol' Rexy boy. Most of the time it has banned under his name, guess that's why he washed up on our shore.

In the 2009-2014 section there are a couple of 5.0L failures on the first page, all of them dropped compression on cylinder #3. There's also a 6.2L that had a head replaced. Any motor made in large enough quantities will have a few defective parts slip through.

 

Intercooler failure on PSD's arn't a common failure, but they do split from time to time. I blew the boots off a few times before doin' the hairspray trick to hold 'em tight.

Adrianspeeder

 

Wookie,

I'd appreciate it if you would drop the whole "banned" thing. I haven't said anything here to get banned for and banning a person and making that your goal because I disagree with you is pretty sad.

I have read that mane ecos are having the intercooler replaced. Whether one uses bing or google, it is fairly easy to find.

 

The Eco's are getting intercooler replacements under a TSB due to the condensation issue, not intercooler failures.

 

Ok, so you've said your opinion we all get it you don't like the EB. Now quit crappin' your same trite ideas in every thread on this board. Hells bells you even crapped in a thread about grab handles! Now go find some other ax to grind or go troll a Tundra board they deserve it for buying jap junk.

And like GLC said, every result was for the condensation issue not a failure. The stock EB is a fairly low pressure system with pretty robust piping on the pressure side and different style clamps than a Powerstroke to stop the charge pipes from coming loose.

 

I'm confused. The intercooler is not failing. It just doesn't work because it isn't designed properly to handle the condensation, but you don't consider that intercooler failure? I don't understand what you are saying or your rationale.

I was trying to figure this out and googled it. Here is the post:

Post subject: New intercooler installed - Still same problems - Not

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Truck: 2011 F150 Supercrew 4x4 Ecoboost 3.55
They installed the new intercooler last week.
As part of the installe there is a new software load.

1. Engine bogging when you stomp the peddal to the floor at highway speed. Still the same. I tried it on Saturday when it was raining after about 30 minutes on the interstated at 70 mph. Bogged, missed, sputtered. Same as before.

2. Miss / Dropping boost pressure under light acceleration. Still the same.

3. Boost pressure change. It would hit 16 psi max of boost at about 3500 to 4000 rpms before. Now it is about 12 psi of boost. It will hit 16 psi right after a transmission shift if you hold it but then boost starts to drop back off. I was able to do this on a dry weather condition day.

4. Gas mileage - no change. At first it was higher just like every time before when a new tune was installed. But after a few 100 miles the mileage goes back down. I got right at 20 mpg right after the tune on the highway. After 300 miles I got 17.6 mpg on the highway. Same driving conditions. At one point I was down to 15.6 but it slowly came back up.

Bottom line - no change with the new intercooler and new tune.

 

Ha oh boy, sexy Rexy. Don't even attempt to lecture me on diesels. I merely stated that the gas burners would have turbos, no more, no less.

NO ONE that is truly in the market for a diesel ends up with an EB F150. No half ton is ever going to tow 20k pounds.

 

I'm confused again. I didn't know you and I were talking about diesels. I just posted to someone who was comparing gas and diesels/apples and oranges. I'm not sure where you are coming from on the "don't even attempt to lecture me on diesels."

Back to the "sexy Rexy," that is a good point and you might find it humorous that some just shorten it to "sexy"

Wait and see, while you think everyone is going turbo, I am saying that will end soon. Only if gas goes over $6 is it financially feasible to invest in turbos.

As to the market, that is exactly why some people are buying ecos is for heavy towing and to replace diesels. We do agree that this isn't a wise decision.

 

I wasn't really comparing them, only stating that a 5.0 EB would have turbos, because I, as a diesel lover, love the turbo whistle they produce. So that is why I said the gas burner owners would "have turbos to play with like the diesels." Then you list up facts as to why and how the two motor types are different, when I know very well why and how they're different.

Are you losing sight of the fact that the EB trucks cost at MOST $1,000 more than a 5.0, and more often than not only cost more when special ordered? KingRanchCoy bought an EB only because it happened to be cheaper than a comparably equipped 5.0 at his time of purchase. Ford wouldn't be producing smaller displacement forced induction motors if they weren't truly delivering better gas mileage. FI increases volumetric efficiency, which yields potential increases in fuel efficiency.

But again, no one that legitimately needs a 3/4 or 1 ton truck to tow heavy loads ended up buying a turbo'd ecoboost haha.