One More Reason To Avoid Government Motors
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One More Reason To Avoid Government Motors
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...leased-chi-co/
Celebrating a murderous political system that is responsible for millions upon millions of deaths. Your tax dollars at work.
Celebrating a murderous political system that is responsible for millions upon millions of deaths. Your tax dollars at work.
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Now that is extremly strange, just wrong, why would they ever do that?!
But on a reliability standpoint, I believe that ford surpassed GM in quality in 2007-2009. All of our fords have been nice, but in the long run, ford hasnt been great. right now our beater the aerostar, blown headgasket. My Expedition is having extremly annoying problems with the ecu, making the truck go in and out of drive to neutral, and the occasional shift into 4wd while driving
Still love ford though!
But on a reliability standpoint, I believe that ford surpassed GM in quality in 2007-2009. All of our fords have been nice, but in the long run, ford hasnt been great. right now our beater the aerostar, blown headgasket. My Expedition is having extremly annoying problems with the ecu, making the truck go in and out of drive to neutral, and the occasional shift into 4wd while driving
Still love ford though!
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you just know there is more to this story.
at some point every major manufactures has to admit that China is an issue. How they deal with it is another matter. If you sold a product, how could you ignore the largest population on the Earth.
at some point every major manufactures has to admit that China is an issue. How they deal with it is another matter. If you sold a product, how could you ignore the largest population on the Earth.
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Now that is extremly strange, just wrong, why would they ever do that?!
But on a reliability standpoint, I believe that ford surpassed GM in quality in 2007-2009. All of our fords have been nice, but in the long run, ford hasnt been great. right now our beater the aerostar, blown headgasket. My Expedition is having extremly annoying problems with the ecu, making the truck go in and out of drive to neutral, and the occasional shift into 4wd while driving
Still love ford though!
But on a reliability standpoint, I believe that ford surpassed GM in quality in 2007-2009. All of our fords have been nice, but in the long run, ford hasnt been great. right now our beater the aerostar, blown headgasket. My Expedition is having extremly annoying problems with the ecu, making the truck go in and out of drive to neutral, and the occasional shift into 4wd while driving
Still love ford though!
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China is a really difficult situation that all corporations have to deal with in one way or another. They have a huge population and companies have made huge investments there due to their huge workforce, low wages and lax environmental rules. Now that the population is seen to prosper in the future, there is the potential to not only use them as a manufacturing machine but as an outlet to sell their products. Who wouldn't want access to 1 billion + new customers?
While the US, Canada and European countries have open markets, China is still a hard line ruled country and appeasing their power base is the only way to survive there. Much like rules requiring countries to share their technology with them in order to open up shop there, these are the costs of doing business there.
The bottom line is they want to sell cars in China and Buicks are one of the biggest sellers there.
While the US, Canada and European countries have open markets, China is still a hard line ruled country and appeasing their power base is the only way to survive there. Much like rules requiring countries to share their technology with them in order to open up shop there, these are the costs of doing business there.
The bottom line is they want to sell cars in China and Buicks are one of the biggest sellers there.
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Why not celebrate? The USA is now on a path to be very similar to China. It's amazing how far our country is from what it's founders envisioned. It's even more amazing that there dosen't seem to be all that many Americans who care.
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Pretty soon? They could buy us with our own currency now, and ask for change... in their currency of course. They don't want any more of ours. What are they gonna do with it since nobody wants it and if they own us, they sure don't need any more of it. Sure was a smart move for us American's to want those cheap goods wasn't it?
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Pretty soon? They could buy us with our own currency now, and ask for change... in their currency of course. They don't want any more of ours. What are they gonna do with it since nobody wants it and if they own us, they sure don't need any more of it. Sure was a smart move for us American's to want those cheap goods wasn't it?
I couldn't agree with you more!
Yes we can save a nickel or two on items we buy but the true cost of cheap goods is killing us.
In 1980 we were the world's largest importer of raw materials and the world's largest exporter of finished goods. We were the world's leading creditor nation. Our national debt was about $900 billion.
Today, we are the largest exporter of raw materials and the largest importer of finished goods. We are the world's largest debtor nation. Today our national debt is over $14 trillion and our annual deficits are greater than our total from George Washington through Jimmy Carter.
Sounds like Supply Side Economics is working great...for the rest of the world and has failed us horribly. How 30 years can make such a huge difference?
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I couldn't agree with you more!
Yes we can save a nickel or two on items we buy but the true cost of cheap goods is killing us.
In 1980 we were the world's largest importer of raw materials and the world's largest exporter of finished goods. We were the world's leading creditor nation. Our national debt was about $900 billion.
Today, we are the largest exporter of raw materials and the largest importer of finished goods. We are the world's largest debtor nation. Today our national debt is over $14 trillion and our annual deficits are greater than our total from George Washington through Jimmy Carter.
Sounds like Supply Side Economics is working great...for the rest of the world and has failed us horribly. How 30 years can make such a huge difference?
Yes we can save a nickel or two on items we buy but the true cost of cheap goods is killing us.
In 1980 we were the world's largest importer of raw materials and the world's largest exporter of finished goods. We were the world's leading creditor nation. Our national debt was about $900 billion.
Today, we are the largest exporter of raw materials and the largest importer of finished goods. We are the world's largest debtor nation. Today our national debt is over $14 trillion and our annual deficits are greater than our total from George Washington through Jimmy Carter.
Sounds like Supply Side Economics is working great...for the rest of the world and has failed us horribly. How 30 years can make such a huge difference?
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Apparantly its not GM according to GM:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/18/gm...ommunist-film/
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/18/gm...ommunist-film/
On Tuesday, reports surfaced accusing General Motors (GM) of sponsoring and financing a Chinese communist propaganda film. First reported by the Washington Times, the story is winding its way through the web and and risks becoming another blight on “Government Motors.”
According to Greg Martin, director of policy and Washington communications for GM, the automotive company played no role in the film celebrating the 90th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
“It was not GM,” Martin flatly told The Daily Caller.
The sponsor, Shanghai GM, said Martin, is a distribution and sales network that “is a completely separate and distinct business entity based in China that has no organizational or financial ties whatsoever” to the Detroit-based company.
“It is not GM. It is not GM money. And it is in no shape or form, or indirectly, taxpayer money,” Martin told TheDC.
He confirmed that no GM vehicles appear in the film, though some of the actors were transported in Cadillacs.
In 2009, GM received a $50 billion bailout from the federal government. While GM has been working to pay off the loan, the U.S. Treasury still owns a 33 percent stake in the company.
China’s emerging auto market has been enormously beneficial to GM sales. The company not only surpassed Toyota in sales this year, but in 2010, GM sold more cars in China than it did in the U.S.
“It’s disappointing and somewhat predictable,” Martin said of the news reports. “It’s unfortunate.”
According to Greg Martin, director of policy and Washington communications for GM, the automotive company played no role in the film celebrating the 90th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
“It was not GM,” Martin flatly told The Daily Caller.
The sponsor, Shanghai GM, said Martin, is a distribution and sales network that “is a completely separate and distinct business entity based in China that has no organizational or financial ties whatsoever” to the Detroit-based company.
“It is not GM. It is not GM money. And it is in no shape or form, or indirectly, taxpayer money,” Martin told TheDC.
He confirmed that no GM vehicles appear in the film, though some of the actors were transported in Cadillacs.
In 2009, GM received a $50 billion bailout from the federal government. While GM has been working to pay off the loan, the U.S. Treasury still owns a 33 percent stake in the company.
China’s emerging auto market has been enormously beneficial to GM sales. The company not only surpassed Toyota in sales this year, but in 2010, GM sold more cars in China than it did in the U.S.
“It’s disappointing and somewhat predictable,” Martin said of the news reports. “It’s unfortunate.”
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Is there anything that is not true there?
I am sorry that the truth destroys the conservative ideology but facts are what they are.
I don't think that becoming a welfare state is productive either. Look at the massive failures in Europe like Greece and Frace to show how Socialism fails.
Right now Communist China, India and many third world nations are kicking our butts.
We have tried to stimulate the economy by giving money to the wealthy for it to trickle down for thirty years (Supply Side Economics). The problems with this theory is two-fold.
One is the theory of money velocity. Extra money in the hands of the wealthy will likely not be spent as they already have an excess. They already buy what they want for the most part so you will not see that money spent as quickly. On the other hand, poor and middle class people will either use that money to pay down debt or make purchases, meaning that money is being transferred around. While poor people don't individually hire people, collectively they can cause the hiring of people.
Case in point...which is better to create one job that pays $250,000 or 5 jobs that pay $50,000 each. In my opinion the five jobs are better.
The second flaw issue is that we don't manufacture anything here anyway. Most goods one would purchase with stimulus funds are for foreign made products. While we may stimulate a middle man or retailer, the profits from making goods sold goes out of the country anyway.
I am sorry that the truth destroys the conservative ideology but facts are what they are.
I don't think that becoming a welfare state is productive either. Look at the massive failures in Europe like Greece and Frace to show how Socialism fails.
Right now Communist China, India and many third world nations are kicking our butts.
We have tried to stimulate the economy by giving money to the wealthy for it to trickle down for thirty years (Supply Side Economics). The problems with this theory is two-fold.
One is the theory of money velocity. Extra money in the hands of the wealthy will likely not be spent as they already have an excess. They already buy what they want for the most part so you will not see that money spent as quickly. On the other hand, poor and middle class people will either use that money to pay down debt or make purchases, meaning that money is being transferred around. While poor people don't individually hire people, collectively they can cause the hiring of people.
Case in point...which is better to create one job that pays $250,000 or 5 jobs that pay $50,000 each. In my opinion the five jobs are better.
The second flaw issue is that we don't manufacture anything here anyway. Most goods one would purchase with stimulus funds are for foreign made products. While we may stimulate a middle man or retailer, the profits from making goods sold goes out of the country anyway.
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