I about to join the KKK and I have my birth certificate ready to proof I am a Belizean, NOT A MEXICAN!

 

In your case the KKK stands for Kitchen Kabinet Kraftsman!!

 

I like that, I'll change my DBA to, instead of DIMCC = Do It Myself Construction Company, KKK Company = Kitchen Kabinet Kraftmanship.

 

Yes there are people out on the fringe that want to take away all guns. There are also those on the fringe that want everyone to be able to carry nuclear weapons.

There is little chance of guns being outlawed completely or taken away from law abiding citizens. Laws like Chicago and DC passed regarding handguns have failed (legally and in practice).

I do think that gun transactions where guy 1 buys a gun from another off the street should be illegal and they seller should bear responsibility for whatever happens with that gun.

That said also, solid training programs and thorough background checks are essential to making guns safer. The idea that anyone can walk into a gun show and leave with a weapon is scary. Too many people will get a gun to do something on the spot which is why they have waiting periods and such.

I also don't exactly like the idea of someone being able to have a high powered rifle sitting on the front seat of their car/truck. Someone cuts them off and they go postal...not good.

Politically it would not make sense to go after guns and Obama is smart enough to know that. Regardless of what he does, no Republican will vote for Obama. There are too many Democrats that like their guns too and doing that would be destructive.

 

You do realize this is not how it happens. Anytime a firearm is transferred by a legal FFL there is a form which must be filled out. This form is then used to call the Feds to gain approval to complete the transaction. The same form is used at gunshows, sporting goods stores, pawn shops or Wal-Mart. The same number is called. The only difference is the phone that is used to make the call. At a store it is attached to the wall with a wire. At the gun show it is more than likely a cell phone. If the Feds approve the sale the weapon can be sold on the spot. That call is what determines if a waiting period will be required.

A legal rifle must have a barrel that is so long it can not be used from inside a vehicle by the driver. I could kill someone with an ax handle, shovel, steak knife or piece of rope. Should we not be able to chop wood, plant flowers and trees, eat steak or tie stuff up? At the end of the day at firearm is a mere tool. If a person is going to kill someone having a gun is not going to change things. If it does please explain human deaths from Cain and Able until the advent of gunpowder. An evil human is just that, how they express their evil is the only thing that has changed.

 

It has been a while since I bought a new gun. The last one I remember there was a couple day waiting period.

I do remember buying a gun once in Indiana at a show and the only approval they cared about was the one from MasterCard. I bought a .322 Remington no questions asked and walked out with it.

I know there are no training programs required to get a FOID card here in Illinois.

I agree anything can be used to kill someone but shooting someone with a gun is a whole lot easier to use than a Q Tip to bludgeon someone to death.

 

Some more fuel for the fire...

"Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia
Crime Rate Plummets

by Chuck Baldwin

The New American magazine reminds us that March 25th marked the 16th anniversary of Kennesaw, Georgia's ordinance requiring heads of households (with certain exceptions) to keep at least one firearm in their homes.

The city's population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982.

And it has stayed impressively low. In addition to nearly non-existent homicide (murders have averaged a mere 0.19 per year), the annual number of armed robberies, residential burglaries, commercial burglaries, and rapes have averaged, respectively, 1.69, 31.63, 19.75, and 2.00 through 1998.

With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn't. The fact is I can't remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you?

The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence.

The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city's crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn't force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don't have a death wish.

There have been two occasions in my own family when the presence of a handgun averted potential disaster. In both instances the gun was never aimed at a person and no shot was fired."

 

Well there are forms and a tax stamp to get around that, but to get those approved it's a LONG wait..which I think is BS IMO, but I'll take what I can get right now.



It's a very simple concept that for what ever reason "anti-gun" people can't grasp.


All but a very few of my guns I've purchased "off the street". Guess it's about time I go and mass murder people.

 

There's a myth out there that the ****'s enacted gun control legislation to facilitate an easy disarmament of citizens. 'Didn't happen. The Wiemar Republic passed the gun control laws requiring registration of all firearms and designed to disarm Communists and *****. When the ***** came into power, they tweaked them a little and used them against their enemies. It's easier to collect the citizen's weapons if you know who has them. Laws and restrictions of personal freedoms and rights, that seem prudent during one period of history, may come back to bite you in the butt in the future.

 

Maybe not, but I hear they are considering legislation to take away your rights to camp chili. After all, it's a much more painfull death.

 

Probably better for all mankind if they did.

 

Let's hear it for Kennesaw.
Next is all of north Georgia!!

 

Kennesaw, GA. One of the lowest crime rates in the country.

The first post in this thread is what personal responsibility is: http://rugerforum.net/gun-stories/16...-old-days.html

 

thats intresting, so they force people to carry guns?

 

Check my link above and read the entire article, not just this snippet.