Here's more things to think on: What about the animal kingdom? Animals in the wild that are gay are even more rare than in the human race. If it is decided prenatally, why isn't the percentage closer to 50%, or even better, 25%?

In truth, neither are anywhere near either rate.

 

I doubt these people are some hate mongers rather they are probably some old couple brought up with old fashioned thoughts of how the world should be and I get that. I'm not saying to take their home away and lock them in prison for 30 years of hard labor.

At the same rate, I don't want to create a legal precedent that allows people to use "my home" as a way to deny services to those different than them. I don't want to say, well they closed it so it's no biggie.

The reality is though, if you open a business you better know what you are getting into. Ignorance is not usually a valid defense.

 

FAIL

It is no more learned than for me to be hetorexual. Nobody told me to like women, I just knew it intrininctly.(sp)

There arnt any more gay people now than before, they are only coming put of the closet more because they were terrified before because of certain closed minded people.

I would hate to be gay in Texas, who the heck is going to come out there? Just because they don't admit their gayness doesnt mean they don't exist.

From what I've read I think the % of gay people would be closer to 3-5%, but it's hard to know for sure, lots of fear still from people.

 

True, but I guess that depends on who you are-seemed to work pretty well for ol' Charlie Rangle.

 

That post is very gay Frank, as a matter of fact I think you're gay for posting that

 

Have another beer Habs, adults are talking.

 

Stop stealing my lines ****, typical republican, steal everything that isnt nailed down

 

Why aren't 25% of all people born with red hair? Why don't 25% have Down Syndrome?

Do I think every gay person was "born" that way? No. Is every guy that is heterosexual a solid heterosexual...no.

That said, a lot of people are afraid of anyone not like them and act out in prejudice acts and hatred.

More oppression and hatred has been driven by religion than any other reason. Does that mean to abandon religion, no but people miss the point of it being about love and make it a reason to feel morally superior and spread hate!

 

Let's say you are right Habbs (boy I think i just threw up in my mouth) that is what makes this stuff even more goofy. Think about it 95-97% are asked to bend over backwards for 3-5%, and you can't call that "special" rights?

 

What an excellent point.
Look at our very own Bucky, here's a guy who most days of the week is as heterosexual as the next guy, but get a few beers into him and invite his hunting buddies over for a "Hot Tub" party, and all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose, and Bucky ventures over to the 'other side' for a few special treats which he reserves for special occassions.

Does that make him gay? It's hard to tell, that why I like to think of him as only half a ***.

 

if the 3-5% asked "YOU" to bend over backwards, I could see why you might be uncomfortable with that

Let's say there's 300 million people in the USA and let's pretend the real rate is only 2%, that's still 6 million people. That's an awful lot of people to be trampling on, but seriously, nobody is asking anyone to bend over, just treat people fairly and don't discriminate, it's not really a lot to ask.

 

Must be that "New Math" or something. 6 million telling 294 million what they should be doing or believing? What am I missing?

 

I disagree with that line to some extent. There is a faction of the gay movement that is pushing for special treatment in ways such as "gay days" at Disneyland, gay pride parades and things of that nature. If they just want to live their lives in peace when why do they insist on things of this nature? Anyone can go to Disneyland whenever the park is open. Why do they want a day for themselves? Same thing with the parades, there isn't a straight pride parade why should there be a gay one? These are just two examples of where they have pushed the boundaries well past just being left alone and not harassed.

I'm not the least bit gay and have no intentions of going out and giving gay folks a hard time. I do have a problem with gays pushing their beliefs on me. If all they want it to live and be left alone I am fine with that. What they do in their bedrooms isn't my business. When they take it out of their bedroom and start waving it around on Main St. then they have made it my business. This is the problem most people have with the gay movement.

 

What your missing is that those 6 million people arnt telling anyone what to do or what to believe.
I think this is the misconception that's fueling some of these problems.
The gays just want to be able to live their life the same as you and me and not be discriminated against. They don;t want some 80 year old curmudgion from Texas telling them that they should just "restrain themselves from having sex" (not mentioning any names)

It really is as simple as that.

Kmacs example about the Hindi working at Burger King was a spot on example.
The Hindi cant eat aninals because its against his religion, but applies for a job at burger king.
He can't very well say to Burger King "Well, my religion forbids me from handling cows for consumption, so please stop selling it"

Burger King is still offering him the job, it's not BK's fault the guy's religion goes against working there.

The nice old couple running the B&B were never asked to change their religious beliefs but they broke the law when they refused to rent them a room at their business (which happens to be where they live) but the business takes precident. It's not like the gay couple will be having their relations in front of the old couple.

On the same token, they couldve just lied and said they were brothers, and nobody was the wiser, they couodve done their business behind closed doors and nobody wouldve been the wiser.

The old couple shoulve never asked them "Are you guy", personally, its nobodys business.

My personal belief is the gay couple shoudve just went 'oh well, let's look elsewhere' and moved on, but they didnt and now they have every right to go after them for discrimination.
Would I have done it? No, but it's still their right under the Canadian legal system, no different than if they were disciminated for the colour of their skin.

 

I agree with you there wookie, that type of thing goes from one extreme to the next, I blieve that type of thing takes it too far.
Just be gay and enjoy your equal rights but you dont have to parade it around in front of peoples noses.

I'm in total agreement.