I have to agree I love the old ones. I wouldn't sneeze at either one, I'd drive either like I stole it.
Rhonda

 

Supposedly the 2011 will hang with an m3 on a road course, that is pretty damn good for a live axel.

 

As far as Im concerned, the Mustang was never ment to be a "sports" car, its a muscle car... Porsche and Ferrari, those are "sports" cars
Remember IMO

 

Kobi..I've always loved the Mustang. Have owned 4 of them so far. I would give my left arm for a GT500 or better yet, the Boss 302.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muRC7WJHgmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4&NR=1

I cant wait to see the Boss up against the M3

 

First, your welcome, and thanks for letting me have mine too! It does say alot about how far Ford has come over the past few years compared to were it was, even in 2007. Ford is making great strides.

So your comparing a Fords interior to Lexus and Porsche? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the GT500s interior isnt as nice as a Mercedes or Bentley either. Its a Ford, which isn't a luxury brand to begin with so compare apples to apples. Compare it to a Camaro SS and a Challenger SRT8.

The GT does about equal to the M3:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

I am sure the GT500 isn't much worse.

 

I certainly ain't no Chevy fan boy, but the Shelby GT500 is a **** poor performer for the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIPBP-9TUnQ

 

A Corvette is a sports car and not really directly comparable. Two different types of rides, ones a sports car in every true sense of the word and the other is a good ole fahion muscle car

 

We have a winner!!!

The Z06 is a beast

 

You get no argument from me. I am in total agreement with you on this point. I had a 2000 Lightning and then a 2002 Lightning. Now those were CRAP interiors. Tap on the dashboard and you were tapping on plastic that had the same consistency and thickness of the type of plastic that was used in model cars and airplanes when we were kids. And it was hallow in those dashes when you tapped on them. Compared to those the GT500 is frickin' A++. But you know what? In spite of the crap interior of the Lightning, those were the most awesome and fun vehicles I have ever owned.


You would be correct. It isn't.

I never intended a head to head comparison. I posted that I never liked the modern Mustangs, nor the Shelby, now I do. I said it had an awesome engine and was fun. It would be even better if a car like that had a world class interior. The damn thing is 50 grand +. Lexus and Mercedes and Audi have cars in the 30k range ALL of which put American exteriors to shame (not just Ford). Interiors have always been one of the American manufacturers weakest qualities.

Your comments compared this Ford to Fords of old. Which is fine, and certainly legitimate. I mentioned the brands I did because I have experience with them, they have always been a point of reference for me and they have served as a benchmark that I use to judge. You brought up one point of view, I another.

However, if you want to compare apples to apples and use the SRT8, okay.

I wanted an SRT8. Went gaga over it when it first came out. Test drove it like crazy. Wanted it even more . . . until I started following owners forums and such and found out that mechanically, it was a nightmare.

But as for interiors... The seats in the SRT8 are nicer, more comfortable. The SRT8 is roomier. A tad more headroom (which is important for me as I'm fairly tall). I'm just barely hitting the ceiling of the GT500 with my head and that's with the seat tilted back. Not the most comfortable for long distance driving. SRT8 has more shoulder and hip room.

Beyond the seats, however, it's no contest. The GT500 wins hands down.

Feel better?

[Side note: I've already started reading owners forums for the 2010 and 2011 Shelby GT500. So far, the only common problem is with the transmission and the grind between 1&2. (seems to be exclusive with the Shelby) Time will tell if there are other things, but for now the Shelby is lookin' good]



Interesting. While waiting for the eclipse in the early AM I started going thru the reviews of "professionals", especially video reviews and most of them said what I did, the suspension wasn't worth squat. It (and the brakes, even though upgraded in the Shelby) were not adequate for a car with the amount of power and weight it had. (I believe one of them even referred to the handling characteristics as "a pig". OK, so I said "cow", whatever).

BUT . . . they were also of the same opinion that for those very same reasons, it didn't matter, it was "hella" fun to drive (as the kids these days say).

As for the M3 thing . . . based on the one I drove (a 2010), I'd have a hard time believing that, however, I have also read, and viewed on one of the aforementioned videos, that the 2011 model went aluminum with the block which saved over 100 lbs so it's not so nose heavy, and I believe there were tweaks to the springs and struts and shocks that improved handling considerably. Maybe.

 

When talking handling, it's pretty hard to compare a broadsword (Shelby) to a scalpel (sports car).

If you need a scalpel, a broadsword is just not going to the job, no matter how sharp it is.

But if you are a broadsword kind of guy, you care not what a trained surgeon can do with a scalpel.

To take the analogy in another direction, you should not compare a cow to a ferret, as this will only annoy the pig.

 

you totally lost me


Isnt a mustang a horse?

 

I'd put a sterling 10.5 under that gt500 to make sure it wont break on me...

 

I loved the looks so much that i put one in the driveway! It handles very good for a live axle. The power is amazing! Spinning the tires at 65 with the traction control on will never get old!

 

have you seen any of the reviews on the 11 stangs? It blows everything out of the water in the handling department

I wouldn't say that. But, it is pretty damn good for a live axle car, which is fine by the way, as it can smokes many IRS vehicles and makes a fool of the Camaro and Challengers.

To the OP, if you want a German sports car, go get one. That isn't the competition for a Mustang, GT 500 or F-150. Get a freaking clue.

 

Oh my God . . . you poor thing. You can't read!