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the biggest difference is that in a civilian job you go in to work for 8 hours and then go home. in the military you dont go home and have to share quarters which may be a small tent. it is a very confining and cohesive atmosphere.
these alternative lifestyle deviants want equality but then want to be treated "special". they want it both ways.
i have a pair of these freaks living neat me and they cant even kill a spider. they run from a snake and cower in their house at the sound of a noise out side at night. just what i want covering me in a fight.
and delinkiwich, its a USA thing. your profile shows you as canadian===so save your comments, we dont want to here them.
these alternative lifestyle deviants want equality but then want to be treated "special". they want it both ways.
i have a pair of these freaks living neat me and they cant even kill a spider. they run from a snake and cower in their house at the sound of a noise out side at night. just what i want covering me in a fight.
and delinkiwich, its a USA thing. your profile shows you as canadian===so save your comments, we dont want to here them.
This is an open, public forum. Contains fellows from more then a few countries, so it's you who should "save it".
Look telling people from Canada to butt out is ignorance and stupidity. This is an open forum for members of this site. I guess as an American I am still allowed to say my peace...Thank God!
I highly doubt the very "feminine" gay guys or prissy ones are going to be wanting to jump on the front line in the armed forces to begin with. If they can do the job, then what matters?
I don't think they are going to be bragging about the dude they banged last night either. I mean seriously...you don't roll into work broadcasting crap like that.
With your logic then firemen can't be gay because they often sleep at the station and have long shifts...doctors...nurses...lots of people are displaced then.
As far as those homophobic countries, many don't want women walking around without head coverings too. I mean get a grip.
All DADT could do is put people in an awkward spot and vulnerable to being blackmailed by someone that found them out. How does discharging people that are found to be gay after they serve for decades of decorated service make sense just because they were found out.
During Vietnam and WWII, they turned a blind eye to the gay ban because they needed bodies. All of a sudden the gays were ok? Did we not do so well in Vietnam because of some gay soldiers or was it because we were in an impossible situation?
During WWII, blacks were forced into segregated units because some white guys didn't want to serve next to them. There are still racists out there...does that justify segregating units? Oh how about bi-sexuals? We need a third segregation because they aren't sure which way they swing?
I highly doubt the very "feminine" gay guys or prissy ones are going to be wanting to jump on the front line in the armed forces to begin with. If they can do the job, then what matters?
I don't think they are going to be bragging about the dude they banged last night either. I mean seriously...you don't roll into work broadcasting crap like that.
With your logic then firemen can't be gay because they often sleep at the station and have long shifts...doctors...nurses...lots of people are displaced then.
As far as those homophobic countries, many don't want women walking around without head coverings too. I mean get a grip.
All DADT could do is put people in an awkward spot and vulnerable to being blackmailed by someone that found them out. How does discharging people that are found to be gay after they serve for decades of decorated service make sense just because they were found out.
During Vietnam and WWII, they turned a blind eye to the gay ban because they needed bodies. All of a sudden the gays were ok? Did we not do so well in Vietnam because of some gay soldiers or was it because we were in an impossible situation?
During WWII, blacks were forced into segregated units because some white guys didn't want to serve next to them. There are still racists out there...does that justify segregating units? Oh how about bi-sexuals? We need a third segregation because they aren't sure which way they swing?
I just hope the curtains match the tent.
That would be devastating if nothing matched
Gays have been in the military for centuries, especially during the Roman era. But there is no need to announce it. Everyone has a Gaydar. When you see a *** you already know it.

That would be devastating if nothing matched

Gays have been in the military for centuries, especially during the Roman era. But there is no need to announce it. Everyone has a Gaydar. When you see a *** you already know it.
It doesn't though, some of it is green still, some tan/desert colored and some is acu colored. I understand blue uniforms for Air Force and Navy, but what I've had trouble figuring out since they went to the new uniforms is how does blue blend in with the desert?
Wow dlenkenwich, I guess I hit a nerve. You spit out alot of poison but didn't answer or address the questions that I asked. I guess that is what happens when you operate on "feelings" and not reality.
K-Mac, my, my, my. The thing missing in the example you give is these "soldiers through out history" you speak of didn't use the WE'RE HERE WE'RE QUEER, SO GET USED TO IT approach.
The whole "gays in the military" thing is just another cram down your throat (no pun) by our liberal leaders. There is absolutly no reason to be picking this scab right now any way.
K-Mac, my, my, my. The thing missing in the example you give is these "soldiers through out history" you speak of didn't use the WE'RE HERE WE'RE QUEER, SO GET USED TO IT approach.
The whole "gays in the military" thing is just another cram down your throat (no pun) by our liberal leaders. There is absolutly no reason to be picking this scab right now any way.
Was there any questions worth answering?
All you've done is deflect any logic I've thrown your way with your ignorant hate speech. You have yet to provide any good reason to justify your stance. "I don't want to shower with a gay man." Doesn't suffice.
You all seem set on the stereotypical gay persona, thinking that even though gay men make it through basic, you feel he'll flee at the sight of a spider. This is where your ignorance shows. You fella's really need to get out more if you are seriously taking they hollywood stigma's so seriously.
All you've done is deflect any logic I've thrown your way with your ignorant hate speech. You have yet to provide any good reason to justify your stance. "I don't want to shower with a gay man." Doesn't suffice.
You all seem set on the stereotypical gay persona, thinking that even though gay men make it through basic, you feel he'll flee at the sight of a spider. This is where your ignorance shows. You fella's really need to get out more if you are seriously taking they hollywood stigma's so seriously.
You have me confused with someone else. I'll re-post it for ya.
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All this is, is just another stepping stone. Clinton F'd things up by starting this program in the first place. Now they do away with DADT and what is the next step? Two queers who are married where homosexual marrage is allowed and join the military....Base housing or other "special" priveledges? So now the militaty is in the business of PROMOTING homosexual marrage? This whole thing opens many cans of worms for the military. How about two queers on leave in a country where they frown to the point of death about homosexuals----will that be the "Fault" of the military if something bad happens to them, and what will that cost the Government (you and me) ?
Besides there is NO job in the military that would require one to be homosexual or straight, so get off the idea that this is about a soldier being able to do his or her job. The whole thing is about the gays being able to wave their queerness in other's faces. NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM THIS.
Now look at the other side, how many able straight people will there be who won't consider the military because they don't want to be forced into a bizare workplace envorment? And as has been stated ealier the military is not run like a private corporation.
And dlenkowich drop the "homophobic" crap, it adds nothing and makes you sound like a parrot.
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All this is, is just another stepping stone. Clinton F'd things up by starting this program in the first place. Now they do away with DADT and what is the next step? Two queers who are married where homosexual marrage is allowed and join the military....Base housing or other "special" priveledges? So now the militaty is in the business of PROMOTING homosexual marrage? This whole thing opens many cans of worms for the military. How about two queers on leave in a country where they frown to the point of death about homosexuals----will that be the "Fault" of the military if something bad happens to them, and what will that cost the Government (you and me) ?
Besides there is NO job in the military that would require one to be homosexual or straight, so get off the idea that this is about a soldier being able to do his or her job. The whole thing is about the gays being able to wave their queerness in other's faces. NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM THIS.
Now look at the other side, how many able straight people will there be who won't consider the military because they don't want to be forced into a bizare workplace envorment? And as has been stated ealier the military is not run like a private corporation.
And dlenkowich drop the "homophobic" crap, it adds nothing and makes you sound like a parrot.
During WWII, blacks were forced into segregated units because some white guys didn't want to serve next to them. There are still racists out there...does that justify segregating units? Oh how about bi-sexuals? We need a third segregation because they aren't sure which way they swing?
stop using this to back yourself up, we arent questioning theyre ability to do the job this isnt the issue. The issue is the unwanted changes to the work enviroment.
Why are then any less likely to talk about that to another gay guy than we are to talk about the chick we banged to another straite guy.
Firemen dont live in a 10 person tent in close quarters for a year. Nor do doctors and nurses. A long shift, even over a couple of days is not the same as 12-15 montsh. The circumstances are completely different and you can not compare them
Stop bringing the blacks into this! black and gay is not the same thing! And bi sexuals are gay, bi sexual is the dumbest thing ever. Two *****'s touching, thats gay. Two woman have sex, gay.
Wow dlenkenwich, I guess I hit a nerve. You spit out alot of poison but didn't answer or address the questions that I asked. I guess that is what happens when you operate on "feelings" and not reality.
K-Mac, my, my, my. The thing missing in the example you give is these "soldiers through out history" you speak of didn't use the WE'RE HERE WE'RE QUEER, SO GET USED TO IT approach.
The whole "gays in the military" thing is just another cram down your throat (no pun) by our liberal leaders. There is absolutly no reason to be picking this scab right now any way.
K-Mac, my, my, my. The thing missing in the example you give is these "soldiers through out history" you speak of didn't use the WE'RE HERE WE'RE QUEER, SO GET USED TO IT approach.
The whole "gays in the military" thing is just another cram down your throat (no pun) by our liberal leaders. There is absolutly no reason to be picking this scab right now any way.
Further, re: your "promotion of marriage" B.S., so what if we allow gays to marry? How does that hurt you? We let interracial couples marry (very similar situation).
Who cares about the straight people that don't join? I thought this wasn't about emotion?


