anyone else see obamas labor day speech in wisconsin? he is pushing another 50 billion dollar stimulus bill that will go exclusively to the unions. he ranted about the bush years and how they drove the car into the ditch.

also check this out. it says it all about his agenda. cut and paste from an article.

WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.





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Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

-- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

-- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

-- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

-- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.

-- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.

-- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama.

 

It's really interesting how he eliminated the tax incentives for business when he took office and now he is propossing even bigger incentives to create jobs. I remember the discussion with "Real" where it was explained to him that if you gave companies an incentive for capital spending, it would trickle down and create jobs. He said it did not work that way. Now, Obama apparently has decided it does. What a clown!

 

I'm surprised IF he even had a speech on labor day... if the POS isn't on vacation AGAIN!! Did you hear about the latest vacation??? Michelle Obama's gynocologist' father passed away in July and the Obamas just had to "comfort her" and take a vacation (in August) to Spain on taxpayers dime. While Obama ask all Americans to "tighten their belts" and "to sacrifice" how disgusting.

 

The United States are doomed.

 

I love how people love to hate on the unions but they are the ones responsible for the better working conditions that exist today. Employers were pretty crappy to employees before the unions gained strength. We are seeing the demise of the American worker now because of the loss of power with unions.

Brady who is running for Governor of IL wants to roll back minimum wages and "let the market dictate wages." If that means competing for a job with someone in China, that will really suck for the American worker. You want to work for $2.00 a day? You want that 18 hour workday?

If anything, the unions need to get more power back and help unite the American workers against greedy corporations that only look to the bottom line.

As for the paranoia that the WORMS (White Old Rural Male Southerners) have about Obama, it is nonsense. These bailouts started on the watch of Bush. Remember McCain had to suspend his campaign to work on the Wall St. bailout?

If you don't think that Bush and the GOP ran the economy into the ground, then who did? Our deficit more than tripled under Bush's presidency. He had a GOP congress most of his time. We were at war for the majority of his presidency. It took 8 years for him to bring our country to the worst recession since the great depression. Now you expect Obama to magically fix it with a Senate that says NO to everything he wants?

Both parties have their flaws. Nonetheless, unless you are one of the wealthiest 5% of the country, there is no reason to vote for the GOP. They only are for the wealthiest people and could care less about you otherwise. The fact they can get you to vote against your best interest is amusing.

 

I don't care what the democrats or Obama do... I'm against it.

 

FIXED!!!

 

I feel sorry for someone that is such a sheep for the Right Wing Media Machine. At least know why you are opposed to a group or their ideas.

It is like hearing them say they want the president to fail. This isn't a game. It is our country and its future. Regardless of who you vote for you should be cheering their success because it affects you.

This partisanship is destructive and will destroy our country.

 

It's been nearly four years of a Democratic controlled Congress. What has happened since? News alert.......our economy falling apart since the Democrats took control. Compound that with our Turd-in-chief.....things are out of control. So it's a safe bet to say, "Democrats must go!!"

I was for Odummy. Now I know what his message of "Change" is about. Time to flush the Demoturds down the crapper.

 

What do you think triggered the downfall of the economy. This didn't just happen overnight. The collapse of the housing market started late in "05 while the congress and Presidency was with the GOP. They pushed for deregulating everything during the years leading up to the ***** hitting the fan.

Bankers got greedy and started doing anything they could to make more money without regard to logic. Fraud and greed took over and without any regulation to make sure these guys were doing right. All of a sudden you have the walls falling in and there is little anyone can do until the dust settles.

You have people with modest incomes with mega mortgages, there is no saving them. With these properties being foreclosed and no one needing them as we overbuilt, guess what? Housing prices fall and most people's wealth is in their house. The economy was propped up by people using their homes as ATM Machines and now reality sets in.

There are no jobs as the GOP helped subsidize these companies by sending our manufacturing jobs overseas so we can get some piece of crap at Wally World for a nickel cheaper.

You can't look at economies as being something that changes overnight or even years. When you run all of your jobs out that make things, people's only alternative is to work at jobs that pay little and leave no excess to buy things.

I agree that all the stimulus in the world isn't going to help us now. We need to bring manufacturing jobs back here, plain and simple. The service sector has its limits and we have gotten all the jobs out of it that we can.

I still don't see what things Obama has done so bad. Not saying he has done anything overwhelmingly positive but I don't see the harm either.

Things under Bush like the Patriot Act (taking away our freedoms) are much worse than trying to help people with health care and trying to bring back jobs.

 

Kmac really needs to read some books on economics. Try, "How an economy grows and why it crashes" for starters.

 

Why bother responding to the rest of your response......what you stated says it all. Continue to live in a delusional world. Why do you think the Democrats are headed for the slaughter house this November? Because they and the Obama administration are doing a good job?

The Democrats have the presidency and control of Congress.....but yet, their policies are failing and the majority of folks oppose what they are doing. I call that, "Failure." Hard to blame someone else when you have total control.

 

American's have a microwave attitude towards everything. They want it NOW and IMMEDIATELY. Even when things are starting to turn around and get better, it's not fast enough for us, and it's all the fixers fault.

Unnecessary partisanship and blind followers are also a huge problem that will never be fixed.

 

I haven't been here much lately but the ignorance is still strong.

1. Unions are not responsible for better working conditions today. Competition, production, and technology is what has made conditions better for human kind in all aspects of life. Not some group of people that demanded more money for work at one point in time.

2. The demise of the American worker is what you are told on the news... The news is not always to be trusted. Sure there are some jobs that have been outsourced but they have been outsourced due to global competition. It is not because less unions.

3. Minimum wage is the most corrupt law on the books which is strongly supported by unions, because union members do not actually care about someone lower than them (which you are lead to believe).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls8H6MktrA

Most of the statements you make are symptoms of the fact that economics is not your forte.

 

in regards to number 1 above- tell that to walmart employees