i think that i strongly disagree with lec, but im not gonna get into it after this one post. No one is aloud to say nething cause if you disagree with this left wing gov. your just a racist or you have a simple mind or both according to many left wingers...you cant win thats a fact! But i think i like 1st4x4 there! lol...how much debt does this country have now...pres O has spent more than anyother pres in history and how many years does he have left? Were gonna be "slaves" to other countries cause we owe them trillions of $ not really slaves but if say anothr ww were to start they're gonna want there cheddar...on healthcare your not racist if you say this country cant afford it,(not to mention its a stupid idea) but you just get the response "How can we afford NOT to start gov ran health care" lol it kills me you cant win....I just try to accept that this country has went downt the tube and cant be saved...bc were destroyin ourselves from the inside!

 

For the first time since we've been married my wife and I split on our Presidential vote. She voted for the winner, I didn't.
I never thought the man could deliver on many of this bold promises. I only hope he can begin to steer some change for the next president to follow. He may end up the best thing for this country not because of what he promises to do but what he will inadvertently do by getting more of the general population involved in day to day political decisions.

 

How does your wife feel about her vote now? Would she vote for Obama today knowing what she has seen about him now? Just curious because I think a large number of people who voted for Obama regret their decision, but wouldn't openly admit to it.

 

Interesting question!

I accuse her of exactly what you are saying, she defends her vote because she doesn't want to admit it might have been a mistake.
I, on the other hand, wish I could rescind my vote because I don't think either candidate was up to the job. I do think picking Palin as a running mate shot McCain in the foot!

Edit: plus the fact that he was a gazillion years old, and acted it.

 

We have to wait and see the entire body of work.

He came into a total mess. Difficult situations often lead to tough decisions that aren't always popular.

Would Social Security be passed today? Haven't many benefitted from it? I am sure many will call it Socialism.

Yes many Dems voted to go to Afganistan and I support us being there. The source of the 9/11 bombings was there and we are still chasing them as we didn't focus on
Afganistan. Rather Cheney and Bush fabricated stuff to makeus think Iraq had weapons of mss destruction. This was nothing more than a chance to settle dad's war.

If good sense had been used we would probably gotten Bin Ladin and Iraq would not be a mess.

I hear about people complining about bailouts but the alternatives of more unemployment isn't good either.

 

Your Bush Iraq/ WMD statement is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

 

Great post Stealth

 

I posted the exact URL link in a past thread regarding WMDs....which never received a response from those non-believers. It's no surprise from the Left when presented with facts they curl up in the corner and cringe.

 

We still weren't rolling into Iraq and had sat back for 3+ years letting cooler heads prevail. The issue was their refusal to allow inspections. Now we know it was posturing and this could have been avoided.

You can only manage so many wars at a time and W was heading us to conflict with N. Korea & Iran as well. We very well may end up there but there is no need to speed it up.

I am not saying it is racist to not be in lockstep with the president but portraying him as a witch doctor and stuff is blatantly racist.

Before Bush called Iran the Axis of Evil they actually had a more moderate government but then went more extreme after those comments. We did a lot in 8 years to damage our international image by saying things that did nothing but anger others.

 

Yep, I agree.

I think that thread devolved into the WMD topic from another topic, with lefties trying to throw a curve, instead they struck out.

 

So do you like Iran's government? You do not feel women have the right to vote? You judge people based on religion?

Yeah, sounds moderate to me. (Still think we need to vote to designate a sarcastic font)

 

I think we did a pretty good job of making bad countries fear us. Now look at the tricks Iran, North Korea, and Russia are pulling on Obama. You can't be the leader of the strongest country in the world and act like a little sissy and apologize to everyone for things that deserve no apology.

 

You are starting to STRUGGLE. Your credibility is rapidly diminishing...
Iran had a "moderate" govt up until W came along. A mere 8 years ago Iran was not an issue? Sooner or later people will understand that neither ignoring or catering to wack job countries will do any good. Please educate yourself a bit before making redculous comments just beause they sound good to you.

 

So,those who disagree with Obama are racists? What do you call those 90 plus percent of Black folks who argued against Bush?

 

It is not our place to fight for other countries freedoms. If the people want freedom then THEY have to fight for it.

I don't think most Iraqi's like us either. Yes we got rid of their oppressive government but nw they have chaos...good deal?

We want everyone to be like us and many don't want to be.

The other misconception is broad brushing all Muslims as supporting oppressing women stuff...that is the "fundamentalists" or very conservative Muslims. There are many Christian Fundementalists in this country that are just as extreme in their beleifs and would support similar restrictions on women and a morality police.

You don't have to cater to every whack job country but you can't be at constant war either.

It is the same foolishness as us not having ties with Cuba but being friends with China because of human rights, huh? The war ondrugs that works so well???