Obama...what's the problem with him ?
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One thing is quite obvious, we have a communication problem. Yes, get back to the subject, please. Or, you could just scan the GD forum for all the threads that have covered this subject thorougly.
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You have to understand that the US is an extremely divided country. This site for the most part is extremely right winged.
Unfortunately most in this country in this time would rather see this nation burn than to see the other side be successful with their agenda.
While we are at war with each other, the rest of the world is passing is by and one day not too far in the future we will be answering to them.
Sadly if the terror attacks like on 9/11 happened today I think many would cheer and point fingers at the president rather than be supportive of each other.
I am admittedly moderately liberal leaning. Take that into account.
Sadly people would rather give up their freedom vs their money. Most of the divide is financially based.
Whether president Obama was born in the US or not is irrelevant at this point. He is president and the supereme court isn't touching it so end of story. His legitimacy as president is greater than Bush's given the fraud he perpetrated to get elected in 2000. But again it is the past and isn't changing.
Again with the Olympics, Americans should be disappointed not just chicago residents that we lost out in the first round.
Sadly I think the reign of our country as being great one is coming to an end because of our own greed. The financial collapse is rooted in that greed as will our fall be rooted it it.
Unfortunately most in this country in this time would rather see this nation burn than to see the other side be successful with their agenda.
While we are at war with each other, the rest of the world is passing is by and one day not too far in the future we will be answering to them.
Sadly if the terror attacks like on 9/11 happened today I think many would cheer and point fingers at the president rather than be supportive of each other.
I am admittedly moderately liberal leaning. Take that into account.
Sadly people would rather give up their freedom vs their money. Most of the divide is financially based.
Whether president Obama was born in the US or not is irrelevant at this point. He is president and the supereme court isn't touching it so end of story. His legitimacy as president is greater than Bush's given the fraud he perpetrated to get elected in 2000. But again it is the past and isn't changing.
Again with the Olympics, Americans should be disappointed not just chicago residents that we lost out in the first round.
Sadly I think the reign of our country as being great one is coming to an end because of our own greed. The financial collapse is rooted in that greed as will our fall be rooted it it.
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You have to understand that the US is an extremely divided country. This site for the most part is extremely right winged.
Unfortunately most in this country in this time would rather see this nation burn than to see the other side be successful with their agenda.
While we are at war with each other, the rest of the world is passing is by and one day not too far in the future we will be answering to them.
Sadly if the terror attacks like on 9/11 happened today I think many would cheer and point fingers at the president rather than be supportive of each other.
I am admittedly moderately liberal leaning. Take that into account.
Sadly people would rather give up their freedom vs their money. Most of the divide is financially based.
Whether president Obama was born in the US or not is irrelevant at this point. He is president and the supereme court isn't touching it so end of story. His legitimacy as president is greater than Bush's given the fraud he perpetrated to get elected in 2000. But again it is the past and isn't changing.
Again with the Olympics, Americans should be disappointed not just chicago residents that we lost out in the first round.
Sadly I think the reign of our country as being great one is coming to an end because of our own greed. The financial collapse is rooted in that greed as will our fall be rooted it it.
Unfortunately most in this country in this time would rather see this nation burn than to see the other side be successful with their agenda.
While we are at war with each other, the rest of the world is passing is by and one day not too far in the future we will be answering to them.
Sadly if the terror attacks like on 9/11 happened today I think many would cheer and point fingers at the president rather than be supportive of each other.
I am admittedly moderately liberal leaning. Take that into account.
Sadly people would rather give up their freedom vs their money. Most of the divide is financially based.
Whether president Obama was born in the US or not is irrelevant at this point. He is president and the supereme court isn't touching it so end of story. His legitimacy as president is greater than Bush's given the fraud he perpetrated to get elected in 2000. But again it is the past and isn't changing.
Again with the Olympics, Americans should be disappointed not just chicago residents that we lost out in the first round.
Sadly I think the reign of our country as being great one is coming to an end because of our own greed. The financial collapse is rooted in that greed as will our fall be rooted it it.
One doesn't have to be left wing or liberal to look at the whole picture.
It's one of my great disappointments in life.....and I expect I am one of the oldest hereabouts, that people can't be more tolerant without resort to name calling and general slanging matches.
We are no better on this side of the Atlantic and despite seeing a succession of Prime Ministers, of whom each one I thought..."This could be better"...
They all disappoint and prove to be as corruptable as those that went before.
I'm getting off the point here but the one I really despised (And I'm not truely a political animal) was that wretched Thatcher woman.
The one I liked best ended up being called the 'grey' man because he was middle of the road and tried to understand all viewpoints...John Major.
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The country got mad at Bush because he gave out checks to the lower income people and not everyone. He passed the Patriot Act. He bailed out companies that needed to die, and he went to war which rightfully so... but many don't like that. So they wanted a different president.
They elected another president that wants to give out checks to lower income people and wants to push the Patriot Act further. He bailed out even more companies that needed to die and he is increasing the war effort in 'stan. His name is Obama.
Basically the same president but this 1 is 50% black and sometimes that is all people can see.
They elected another president that wants to give out checks to lower income people and wants to push the Patriot Act further. He bailed out even more companies that needed to die and he is increasing the war effort in 'stan. His name is Obama.
Basically the same president but this 1 is 50% black and sometimes that is all people can see.
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Let's evaluate this...housing crisis...people wanting bigger homes than they can afford...banks lending loans that can't be paid back to make a quick buck.
Oil prices skyrocketing due to speculation...greed.
Bernie Madoff?
Lack of healthcare for everyone...the only wealthy nation without care for everyone. Its not socialism...it is what is right.
People would rather save a nickle on an item that to pay more for it to be made in the US. I don't know when we are going to realize this is pennywise and dollar foolish. When you make nothing your economy won't grow.
Oil prices skyrocketing due to speculation...greed.
Bernie Madoff?
Lack of healthcare for everyone...the only wealthy nation without care for everyone. Its not socialism...it is what is right.
People would rather save a nickle on an item that to pay more for it to be made in the US. I don't know when we are going to realize this is pennywise and dollar foolish. When you make nothing your economy won't grow.
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Again with the Olympics, Americans should be disappointed not just chicago residents that we lost out in the first round.
Sadly I think the reign of our country as being great one is coming to an end because of our own greed. The financial collapse is rooted in that greed as will our fall be rooted it it.
Sadly I think the reign of our country as being great one is coming to an end because of our own greed. The financial collapse is rooted in that greed as will our fall be rooted it it.
BO is not serious at all about his job.
Oh and GREED is what built this country up. First because we refused to be taxed unfairly (American Revolution). Not saying that this is right but Slavery, cheap labor to feed America at the time. Then onto manufacturing where everything was made in America as part of the Industrial revolution. We WERE Capitalist and ISOLATINIST. Which means, make here, buy here! Now our manufacturing is gone and we worry about the world, and the world has drug us down.
And Lenticular, please respond to my first post as it was all fact and can post some sources or you can google them yourself.
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To answer the OP's question:
To find out everything we need to know about Obama (or anyone else for that matter), we only need to look at his closest friends:
1. ACORN
2. Bill Ayers
3. Jeremiah Wright
#3 is speaks the loudest to me, because he was Obama's self-professed spiritual mentor for many years. That means he LOOKED UP TO him, and learned CORE VALUES from him.
To find out everything we need to know about Obama (or anyone else for that matter), we only need to look at his closest friends:
1. ACORN
2. Bill Ayers
3. Jeremiah Wright
#3 is speaks the loudest to me, because he was Obama's self-professed spiritual mentor for many years. That means he LOOKED UP TO him, and learned CORE VALUES from him.
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Let's evaluate this...housing crisis...people wanting bigger homes than they can afford...banks lending loans that can't be paid back to make a quick buck.
Oil prices skyrocketing due to speculation...greed.
Bernie Madoff?
Lack of healthcare for everyone...the only wealthy nation without care for everyone. Its not socialism...it is what is right.
People would rather save a nickle on an item that to pay more for it to be made in the US. I don't know when we are going to realize this is pennywise and dollar foolish. When you make nothing your economy won't grow.
Oil prices skyrocketing due to speculation...greed.
Bernie Madoff?
Lack of healthcare for everyone...the only wealthy nation without care for everyone. Its not socialism...it is what is right.
People would rather save a nickle on an item that to pay more for it to be made in the US. I don't know when we are going to realize this is pennywise and dollar foolish. When you make nothing your economy won't grow.
1. Your right about the bad loans, Acorn and democrats in congress are to thank for that one.
2. Oil prices go up and down with demand. Thats why they went from $4.30 a gallon to $1.70 in less than a year due to economic collapse.
3. Bernie Madoff is the scum of the earth but not why the market went south in the first place.
4. Healthcare(a service) is a right? Why?
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First of all, nothing better then inviting the countries that hate us onto our soil to part-take in games while we have a war going on.
BO is not serious at all about his job.
Oh and GREED is what built this country up. First because we refused to be taxed unfairly (American Revolution). Not saying that this is right but Slavery, cheap labor to feed America at the time. Then onto manufacturing where everything was made in America as part of the Industrial revolution. We WERE Capitalist and ISOLATINIST. Which means, make here, buy here! Now our manufacturing is gone and we worry about the world, and the world has drug us down.
And Lenticular, please respond to my first post as it was all fact and can post some sources or you can google them yourself.
BO is not serious at all about his job.
Oh and GREED is what built this country up. First because we refused to be taxed unfairly (American Revolution). Not saying that this is right but Slavery, cheap labor to feed America at the time. Then onto manufacturing where everything was made in America as part of the Industrial revolution. We WERE Capitalist and ISOLATINIST. Which means, make here, buy here! Now our manufacturing is gone and we worry about the world, and the world has drug us down.
And Lenticular, please respond to my first post as it was all fact and can post some sources or you can google them yourself.
Someone like yourself to explain what the reasons are...now you have mentioned thingds like ACORN and Bill Ayers, I can indeed google them and learn something.
But you must understand that even though I consider myself reasonably intelligent these are things that are not well promulgated away from the States.
To US residents who care they are probably very important, but to me they are something new that I need to understand...which is PRECISELY why I posted in the first place.
Then my many friends who ask me what you think about Obama can get an educated answer.
I know very few who would look at forums like this, which is again precisely why mis - information gets spread.
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And BTW, birth cert has been endorsed by appropriate agencies, taxation as a hole is "redistribution of the wealth," bailout was initiated by Bush, housing crash happened under Bush (not the fault of dems, just govt/the people in general), etc.
Dont hate on just Obama, hate on the govt as a whole.
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Well I think that healthcare is a right. Most of us would want to see their kids treated if they were sick regardless of their ability to pay. Yes I realize the ER has to take all but still doesn't ensure followup care or anything.
Demand wasn't what drove up oil costs...just an excuse by big oil. Speculators were driving the markets. Demand doesn't fluctuate that much. How many on here traded their trucks for hybrids? People still have to drive...good luck pulling that trailer on a 10 speed!!!!
As far as ACORN...there is corruption there but there is good they have done too.
His ties to Ayers are way overplayed. All of us have people we have met or associated with that aren't positive. Hopefully no one on here attended high school with Charles Manson or they could become associated with him too!!!
This is the same stuff coming from those calling Obama a Muslim and all of that...I truly think that racism is strongly rooted in this country and is going to take many more generations to improve but it is never going to die.
Demand wasn't what drove up oil costs...just an excuse by big oil. Speculators were driving the markets. Demand doesn't fluctuate that much. How many on here traded their trucks for hybrids? People still have to drive...good luck pulling that trailer on a 10 speed!!!!
As far as ACORN...there is corruption there but there is good they have done too.
His ties to Ayers are way overplayed. All of us have people we have met or associated with that aren't positive. Hopefully no one on here attended high school with Charles Manson or they could become associated with him too!!!
This is the same stuff coming from those calling Obama a Muslim and all of that...I truly think that racism is strongly rooted in this country and is going to take many more generations to improve but it is never going to die.
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Healthcare is a right, you pay the money and you are carried/covered. BUT I should have the option to forgo buying health insurance if I so choose. BO is requiring me to purchase HI.
Also, Ayers helped BO edit his book. They were closer then "classmates". and yes there is corruption in ACORN and BO was part of it. and please list one thing that ACORN has done that was positive and DID NOT COST TAXPAYERS
Also, Ayers helped BO edit his book. They were closer then "classmates". and yes there is corruption in ACORN and BO was part of it. and please list one thing that ACORN has done that was positive and DID NOT COST TAXPAYERS
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The history of this country is rooted in people who felt so persecuted in Europe (either financially, politically or religiously) that they were willing to completely uproot their lives and come to an unknown wilderness outpost to start their lives over. From these earliest foundations, the concepts of self-reliance and a healthy suspicion of government have been intricately woven into the culture of the United States.
Barack Obama cuts against the grain of this basic underpinning of American society, exuding the attitude and, more importantly, the BELIEF that the solution for VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING (economic conditions, healthcare, personal responsibility, etc.) begins and ends with government.
Personally, I reject this premise with every fiber of my body. I believe the LEAST amount of government is the BEST amount of government. While I have no problem supporting Obama on issues with which I agree, for the most part my beliefs are diametrically opposed to his, and feel his vision of America will destroy the country I call home.
As such, on most issues, I will fight to defeat the Obama agenda, and can only pray that he is neutered in 2010, and amputated in 2012.
Barack Obama cuts against the grain of this basic underpinning of American society, exuding the attitude and, more importantly, the BELIEF that the solution for VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING (economic conditions, healthcare, personal responsibility, etc.) begins and ends with government.
Personally, I reject this premise with every fiber of my body. I believe the LEAST amount of government is the BEST amount of government. While I have no problem supporting Obama on issues with which I agree, for the most part my beliefs are diametrically opposed to his, and feel his vision of America will destroy the country I call home.
As such, on most issues, I will fight to defeat the Obama agenda, and can only pray that he is neutered in 2010, and amputated in 2012.