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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 02:56 AM
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2 very easy ways to take care of that -

1. Get into the habit of having your receipt plainly visible when you leave the store.

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2. Don't shop at stores that check receipts at the door.
That's easy to say if you live in an area with other big chain stores with decent prices.

Second, I should not have to hold my receipt will trying to juggle a child and a cart full of groceries and being disabled. That's absurd. Either way, If I want to put my receipt in one of the bags so I have it just in case, I don't want to fkin dig it out again.

If they feel people are stealing that much they have to check nearly every person maybe they should shut down business? Why is it my dad and me leaving the store hes 66 and I'm 23 can be one behind the other and he'll walk right out and I'll get stopped right behind him with his stuff! They def profile as it's normal human reaction, but not fair.

Then he has to turn around to show the receipt.

Another problem I have is the mark and highlight things. That isn't their receipt to do that too. Actually my property.

The whole thing just is stupid and should be done away with, since they don't even want to enforce stopping someone. So if I get stopped and I don't have a receipt and keep going. Walmart says dont pursue. Pointless.

Stupid stupid stupid.
 

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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Another problem I have is the mark and highlight things. That isn't their receipt to do that too. Actually my property.
Give me a break. That is ridiculous.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Certain people at Wal-Mart are in fact authorized to make apprehensions once probable cause is developed under the “Merchants Privilege Law” and a reasonable amount of force may used (up to and including restraints) in the course of a shoplifting investigation and it’s most likely going to be the guy dressed in plain civilian clothes that’s been watching you.

Depending on the item stolen and your attitude, we’ll go into my office, wrap up some paperwork and you’ll be sent on your merry way. In a few weeks you can expect to receive a civil demand letter for restitution. If on the other hand, you decide to be uncooperative, you WILL be physically detained, placed in handcuffs and at a minimum, charged with a class C misdemeanor. If you decide to fight and I so much as get a scratch on my knee, the charges will be elevated to a felony level (burglary/assault) and you’ll be trespassed from all Wal-Mart facilities including Sam’s club and Murphy’s gas stations. In addition, I’ll send a BOLO with your picture to all surrounding Wal-Mart stores and cooperating retailers. If you step foot on a Wal-Mart property after being notified of a criminal trespass, you can and will be arrested on the spot.

You wouldn’t believe the low-life people that steal. It’s old people, young people, black ,white, brown and yellow people. It’s the lady with the infant that’s stuffing DVD/CD items under her child in the baby seat in an attempt to conceal. It’s the old lady in the electric cart hiding stuff in a bag under her basket. It’s the young kids with baggy pants and lots of pockets…..it’s everybody!

People Greeters and receipt checks, The overall result of this minor inconvenience is to keep prices LOW for the consumer. You wouldn’t believe how much money simply walks out the front door. I’ve seen people stuff $400-$700 worth of merchandise in a buggy and simply walk out the front door without paying. Everything from flat screen TV’s to Grocery items, it just doesn’t matter, nothing is exempt. Wal-Mart is in business to make a profit and keep prices low. The more money they lose walking out that front door, the more they have to recover….and guess who pays for it in end, YOU!

People Greeters are generally senior people that are retired and looking for something to fill the boredom gap in their lives as well as being a productive member of society. They are instructed not to touch anybody or attempt an apprehension when a customer doesn’t want to cooperate with a receipt check because they feel their rights are being violated or being profiled. Again, their primary job is to act as visible deterrent and it works! I’ve seen it many times first hand. Trust me on this.

The act of showing a receipt on request is a price we all have to pay because of the lowlife scumbag thieves out there. I’m sorry if you have to put your daughter down or dig though a pocket, but it’s necessary to reduce prices for the consumer. Simply keeping the receipt in hand while walking through the doors would alleviate this major inconvenience most of you are complaining about. It’s not that difficult guys!
 

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Another problem I have is the mark and highlight things. That isn't their receipt to do that too. Actually my property
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Whether you agree with points I brought up along with others doesn't make them invalid.

And because something you view as being easy,etc,etc, doesn't mean it isn't a stressful thing to someone else.

If you don't think a crying infant is more important to take care of than worrying about showing a stupid receipt for **** you already paid for, you are crazy, plain and simple.

It's not all the time shes with me, but it's a point, and valid. If shes crying b/c shes hungry, or a dirty diaper, I want to get to my truck ASAP to feed her or change her and comfort her. I don't want to stop even if its 3 seconds, not for anything.

My feeling of desperation for my little girls discomfort supersedes a receipt check at a wal-mart.

You may not think having to stop, set down a crying child especially a younger one and menace for a receipt you have no idea where you put is a big deal, but it is when you have **** on your mind and all you can hear is your child screaming.
 

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 02:34 AM
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Not much, nope.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasFatboy
Greetings all,


Certain people at Wal-Mart are in fact authorized to make apprehensions once probable cause is developed under the “Merchants Privilege Law” and a reasonable amount of force may used (up to and including restraints) in the course of a shoplifting investigation and it’s most likely going to be the guy dressed in plain civilian clothes that’s been watching you.

Depending on the item stolen and your attitude, we’ll go into my office, wrap up some paperwork and you’ll be sent on your merry way. In a few weeks you can expect to receive a civil demand letter for restitution. If on the other hand, you decide to be uncooperative, you WILL be physically detained, placed in handcuffs and at a minimum, charged with a class C misdemeanor. If you decide to fight and I so much as get a scratch on my knee, the charges will be elevated to a felony level (burglary/assault) and you’ll be trespassed from all Wal-Mart facilities including Sam’s club and Murphy’s gas stations. In addition, I’ll send a BOLO with your picture to all surrounding Wal-Mart stores and cooperating retailers. If you step foot on a Wal-Mart property after being notified of a criminal trespass, you can and will be arrested on the spot.

You wouldn’t believe the low-life people that steal. It’s old people, young people, black ,white, brown and yellow people. It’s the lady with the infant that’s stuffing DVD/CD items under her child in the baby seat in an attempt to conceal. It’s the old lady in the electric cart hiding stuff in a bag under her basket. It’s the young kids with baggy pants and lots of pockets…..it’s everybody!

People Greeters and receipt checks, The overall result of this minor inconvenience is to keep prices LOW for the consumer. You wouldn’t believe how much money simply walks out the front door. I’ve seen people stuff $400-$700 worth of merchandise in a buggy and simply walk out the front door without paying. Everything from flat screen TV’s to Grocery items, it just doesn’t matter, nothing is exempt. Wal-Mart is in business to make a profit and keep prices low. The more money they lose walking out that front door, the more they have to recover….and guess who pays for it in end, YOU!

People Greeters are generally senior people that are retired and looking for something to fill the boredom gap in their lives as well as being a productive member of society. They are instructed not to touch anybody or attempt an apprehension when a customer doesn’t want to cooperate with a receipt check because they feel their rights are being violated or being profiled. Again, their primary job is to act as visible deterrent and it works! I’ve seen it many times first hand. Trust me on this.

The act of showing a receipt on request is a price we all have to pay because of the lowlife scumbag thieves out there. I’m sorry if you have to put your daughter down or dig though a pocket, but it’s necessary to reduce prices for the consumer. Simply keeping the receipt in hand while walking through the doors would alleviate this major inconvenience most of you are complaining about. It’s not that difficult guys!
I understand your side of it. I work in retail while I'm finishing my degree. But I think you are missing a major point we are trying to make. You have no RIGHT to demand a receipt, unless the customer has given you this right by signing it over to you via contract (such as required at cosco, sams, etc.) There isn't anything preventing you from asking, but we as consumers have the right to say no. It. basically boils down to a search of your property, in order for authorities to do this they need either a warrant or probable cause. And the U.S. Supreme court has ruled that saying no to a search does not constitute probable cause. So if you are detained simply because they want to do a receipt check they are violating your constitutional rights.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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I understand your side of it. I work in retail while I'm finishing my degree. But I think you are missing a major point we are trying to make. You have no RIGHT to demand a receipt, unless the customer has given you this right by signing it over to you via contract (such as required at cosco, sams, etc.) There isn't anything preventing you from asking, but we as consumers have the right to say no. It. basically boils down to a search of your property, in order for authorities to do this they need either a warrant or probable cause. And the U.S. Supreme court has ruled that saying no to a search does not constitute probable cause. So if you are detained simply because they want to do a receipt check they are violating your constitutional rights.
Exactly what I was trying to say. It's the mere fact that if you don't want to do it, you don't and shouldn't have to, no matter how easy one may view it.

Especially when I was in the Army, it heated me up. I would be in uniform walking out and get checked. So, I figured, you want me to fight for your freedom, go to places you can't imagine in nightmares, but you don't think I bought this fkin tooth paste?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MoshNet
Whether you agree with points I brought up along with others doesn't make them invalid.

And because something you view as being easy,etc,etc, doesn't mean it isn't a stressful thing to someone else.

If you don't think a crying infant is more important to take care of than worrying about showing a stupid receipt for **** you already paid for, you are crazy, plain and simple.

It's not all the time shes with me, but it's a point, and valid. If shes crying b/c shes hungry, or a dirty diaper, I want to get to my truck ASAP to feed her or change her and comfort her. I don't want to stop even if its 3 seconds, not for anything.

My feeling of desperation for my little girls discomfort supersedes a receipt check at a wal-mart.

You may not think having to stop, set down a crying child especially a younger one and menace for a receipt you have no idea where you put is a big deal, but it is when you have **** on your mind and all you can hear is your child screaming.
Been there, done that and got the T-shirt. I am still polite to the poor retirees asking to see my receipt though. And I am not saying you are not polite Mosh but I have witnessed some rude people at our local Walmart. Too many people here think they are being singled out by this act. You are not. It is not profiling. It is a deterent to the less than honest people. It is far from infringing on your constitutional rights. They are not asking to search your pockets or purse.
It is just the poor old guys job to ask to see the receipt. Of course if you have more pressing issues like screaming children you can keep walking as long as you are not rude. If your children do that every time you leave Walmart then you have other issues.
It is just not a big deal to let them hole punch or put a check mark on your receipt on the way out. If you do not wish to do so just be polite and keep walking. There are too many rude people in this country already. I really avoid Walmart anyway. Never really liked that store. My wife is there all the time though.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Been there, done that and got the T-shirt. I am still polite to the poor retirees asking to see my receipt though. And I am not saying you are not polite Mosh but I have witnessed some rude people at our local Walmart. Too many people here think they are being singled out by this act. You are not. It is not profiling. It is a deterent to the less than honest people. It is far from infringing on your constitutional rights. They are not asking to search your pockets or purse.
It is just the poor old guys job to ask to see the receipt. Of course if you have more pressing issues like screaming children you can keep walking as long as you are not rude. If your children do that every time you leave Walmart then you have other issues.
It is just not a big deal to let them hole punch or put a check mark on your receipt on the way out. If you do not wish to do so just be polite and keep walking. There are too many rude people in this country already. I really avoid Walmart anyway. Never really liked that store. My wife is there all the time though.
I understand the people who do it. And, IMHO they use these older people and disabled people so you won't say NO. It's a play on heart. I won't be rude to these people, but if I keep walking, I'd appreciate you to quit shouting for me to stop, as it is my right to keep shuffling along.

And, glad you know about the kid part, I was beginning to think everyone here but me was sterile.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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. It is far from infringing on your constitutional rights. They are not asking to search your pockets or purse.
It is just the poor old guys job to ask to see the receipt. .
I never said asking for a receipt was infringing on my constitutional rights, but demanding one is. Your personal property is your personal property it doesn't matter if its your wallet, car, your home, or your groceries in plastic bags. Searching without concent is a blantant and clear cut violation of your rights.

Let me restate that asking to see my see my receipt. I understand exactly why you do it, and were I in their position I would take it into consideration as a loss prevention technique. However, I personally will not stop and I find it offensive and rude for them to try to stop me.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BennyHanna
I never said asking for a receipt was infringing on my constitutional rights, but demanding one is. Your personal property is your personal property it doesn't matter if its your wallet, car, your home, or your groceries in plastic bags. Searching without concent is a blantant and clear cut violation of your rights.

Let me restate that asking to see my see my receipt. I understand exactly why you do it, and were I in their position I would take it into consideration as a loss prevention technique. However, I personally will not stop and I find it offensive and rude for them to try to stop me.
Agreed. I don't mind the being asked part as much as the shouting, "Sir, SIIIIIR, SIIIIIIIIIIR, PLEASE STOP!", While people stop to see what a horrible citizen I am.

Especially when my crack bags get raveled inside my receipt inside my pocket and I pull my receipt out and my crack baggies fall onto the floor. How embarrassing.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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I understand your side of it. I work in retail while I'm finishing my degree. But I think you are missing a major point we are trying to make. You have no RIGHT to demand a receipt, unless the customer has given you this right by signing it over to you via contract (such as required at cosco, sams, etc.) There isn't anything preventing you from asking, but we as consumers have the right to say no. It. basically boils down to a search of your property, in order for authorities to do this they need either a warrant or probable cause. And the U.S. Supreme court has ruled that saying no to a search does not constitute probable cause. So if you are detained simply because they want to do a receipt check they are violating your constitutional rights
I agree with you 100%. Door greeters are supposed to “request” not “demand” a receipt. However, I also realize they get carried away and start demanding stuff also. Give the old people a break….Lol…..

My simple point is to explain the policy for receipt checks. It’s in place to deter shoplifters. That’s it…plain and simple. They have absolutely NO right to detain anybody. You are always free to leave at any time.

If somebody wants to exercise constitutional rights by being rude and ignoring the 80 year old door greeter……go ahead! Nothing will happen.

Guys….Wal-Mart doesn’t want to inconvenience or trample on anybody’s civil rights. The simple reason for receipt checks is to keep retail theft down. And guess what…it works, I’ve seen it many times.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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Especially when I was in the Army, it heated me up. I would be in uniform walking out and get checked. So, I figured, you want me to fight for your freedom, go to places you can't imagine in nightmares, but you don't think I bought this fkin tooth paste?
Shoplifters play on people’s patriotism with men in uniform and will commonly visit an Army surplus store for that purpose. BDU pants have huge pockets and are therefore great for stuffing stolen items.

I love when this happens because I’m also a 19 year veteran and can spot a fake uniform from a mile away.

I’m telling you, there is NO limit to what scumbags will do!

Thank you for your service!
 
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