Besides your self any one else in your vehical. Gosh forbid if you thought of anyone else before your self.

 

If they want to buckle up they can.

 

Your a projectile.

Welcome to fail town, population YOU.

 

That is an opinion that they would have died had they had their seat belt on.
It is a good thing we cannot prove this, as the only way to know for sure is they would need to have had the seat belt on, and died, not a good thing.

Yes, you could say this. I am getting the maximum performance out of the safety features of my vehicles. Yes it is 100% true.

Still a so trivial topic ?

 

So do you strap your kids and babies in your vehicle? Might as well leave them unbelted too, they could fly out of the vehicle easier..



When other's stupidity costs ME money, it is my business. You're probably for legalizing Crack too. It only effects "the user" right??

 

sounds like an equal opportunity issue, you had equal opportunity to buckle up jus tlike he had equal opprtunity to write you up for not

 

When a steering column is jammed into the front seat hard enough to break the seat back I think it probably would have killed him, another one was a 98 f150 that rolled, it smashed the top of the cab down about a foot past the top of the front seat, it pinned him laying down across the front seat and he had to be cut out, but he walked away.

 

You pay for plenty of people that do wear their seat belt, and its not stupidity, that's YOUR opinion. Me not buckeling up has not cost YOU or anyone else a dime.

 

Notice the bold word, that is an opinion. No facts in your sentence.

The 2nd one, there are pictures above in the post that showed it did not kill the poster, and again, you are guessing it would have killed the person in the example. No facts here either.

Both opinions, not a single fact.

And 2 examples of where you think they survived due to no wearing a seat belt, is not considered "plenty of wrecks" as you posted.

It is still a law, so until you stop thinking it is so trivial for you to spend time on making a change, pay the fine. It does not matter if you think the taxation is fair.
If you want change, you need to make change happen, not wait to see if it is going to change by itself, or someone else is going to take up your cause.
This is part of the problem with people today, all complaints, no solutions.

Before you ask, yes I do take an active role in the elections if I feel change is needed. When I want change, I aid in the process, not call it trivial, and make a big deal out of it, while doing nothing for the change to happen.

You might want to read up on how insurance companies work, if you think this is true. When people go through a windshield from not wearing their seat belt, EVERYONE gets a rate increase, due to higher payouts on premiums. They don't pay this out of their pocket, because they are nice.
You might not have gone through a windshield yourself, but plenty of others have. Those are the ones "making a choice that only affected themselves" that has caused all rates to go up at that carrier.

 

I always wear a seat belt. In fact, it's such a strong habit, I don't even think about putting it on. I just do it. I don't think I'm the "prettiest" guy out there..... but still, I don't really feel like scraping my face off on the pavement.

Now the cell phone law...... That's actually a good one for me too. Where I used to talk on my cell phone all the time, now I have a free hand for a sanwich, or drink, and the other hand for the stereo remote.... and steering with my knee ;-) Funny thing is, I stay in my lane better than many of the people out there with both hands on the wheel !

Fish

 

I know how insurance companies work, I also know that their are plenty of wrecks caused by things that aren't illegal, maybe we should yank everyone's license after they hit 60 because their reaction times have slowed. Drivers under the age of 25 are also more likely to cause an accident so why don't we change the age to get a drivers license to 25, or how about people that are deaf, they cant hear whats going on around them so why don't we make it illegal for them to drive. I mean the things I just posted are costing us money on our insurance premiums, so lets make them all illegal.

 

The wreck I am talking about the cab was way down further than the one pictured, also if you read his post he was small enough that he slid under his seat belt. Notice the bold words.


You want to talk about facts, how about all the ones saying if they hadn't of had their seat belts on it would have killed them, their is no way of knowing that based on your judgment because they were wearing it, so therefor that statement is opinion. So basically we don't know if they save lives or not because according to you its a judgment call unless the same person gets in the same wreck twice once with and once without a seat belt on.

 

Yes we do. There has been test after test after test that PROVE that wearing a seatbelt will offer more protection than not wearing one. This is not a disputable statement, it is fact.

Refer to
http://www.jmu.edu/safetyplan/vehicl...fetybelt.shtml
or
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/810807.pdF
or
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/seatb2.html
if you need to educate yourself, which you might.

However, that doesn't mean that anyone not wearing a seatbelt will die in a wreck, and it doesn't mean that if you do wear a seatbelt you are going to survive.

- NCSU

 

I understand that, I know they help save lives. I was stating that by the logic he was using it meant that there was no proof.

The part that I put in bold in your reply should be enough to make it a decision an adult makes for themselves.

 

That is an all to common problem with those trucks. I lost my sister in an acciedent 2 years ago. She was sitting in the middle of the back. Her head was crushed in the roof. She was still buckled in laying on top of me. I had to unbuckle her so the EMT's could pull her out. She died instanlty. The problem in this case was the roof lacked supports and there was not a center head rest. There were 5 people in the truck. We were all buckled. When the roof crushed the seatbelt moved with it. I was 6'2'' 250lbs at the time and ended up laying on the roof. My dad was driving and he had to cut his seatlbelt so he could get out. He was hanging in his seat and punched out his window. My mom in the passenger side front was in a similar position as me. My other sister opened her door and walked out after unbuckling herself. My collar bone was broken by the "V" in the roof. You can see it in your picture. The truck was basically on top of me. Took them almost an hour to get me out. Jaws of life and jacks manipulating the truck to release me. I was lifeflighted and ended up with a broken collar bone and a broken shoulder. Still hurts when the weather changes.