My personal favorite on this note has to do with calling...lets say tech support...and the only thing that you can understand from the indian girl you're talking to, is that her name is Jennifer. REALLY, you just talked for 2 minutes straight and I couldnt understand but one word, and that word is supposedly your name...Jennifer. Why pretend to have an american name that you say incorrectly like all the other words you just hacked up.

thats all, im stepping out of this one

 

Thank you! I never quite grasped that concept.
The whole thing appeared quite differently on this side of the fence.
But this is the type thing that needs to be addressed to bring an end discrimination.
To be honest, when someone like Jessie Jackson speaks, it just sounds like another language to me. I can say the same about someone like Rush Limbaugh or David Duke speaks. Radicals just turn me off completely.

 

There were many, many, many on this side of the fence who supported the idea, but not the person who organized the event. But in the big picture, it was not about him.

 

HBCU were started because blacks were not allowed in "white schools" PERIOD !
HBCU don't discriminate based on race, just test scores
Schools did not run for free so Dr. Frederick D. Patterson, president of what is now Tuskegee University, urged his fellow black college presidents to raise money collectively.

And the reason there is a Miss Black America pageant?

The first African Americans to appear in the Miss America Pageant came onstage as 'slaves' for a musical number in 1923

 

Drew, you have excellent information in that post. It openned my eyes a little. I knew why those organization existed, but I really had not given it a lot of thought. On the other hand, I really believe for us all get "to the next level", those type of things need to cease to exist, or go out of business. They have served their purpose but are becoming a fence that keeps people apart. At least that is how I see it. I have learned a lot from you, Og and OD.

 

That's funny!,...so I'm from the Central California area and we have a variety of cultures, and quite frankly, I think M. Richards has a point, I my self, born in Fresno, CA, and I've always told people who ask what ethnic background I am and I always reply AMERICAN!!! then I let them know I'm a BEANER!!!

 

That is all fine and dandy, but I think you missed his point Drew. There may very well have been a time and place for those special organizations to exist, but the point is that today they still are allowed to exist without ANY media criticism for being racist, BUT if the same thing were started for whites (I assure you, there are whites that need help too. They are in fact the largest portion of the poor in America...) there would be calls to end the racism and discrimination.

That isn't right...

And no, I am NOT racist, not a "white pride" type of guy. Not even the least bit what so ever. I just hate double standards in all areas of life...

 

the double standards are ridiculous i agree....me perosnally i looK at a persons accomplishments and how they carry and conduct themselves.thats how i was raised ..id like to think im color blind. im againt affirmative action for instance.. thats just reverse racism in my opinion.

 

I can remember a time when affirmative action was necessary for our Nation to move forward. I'm not sure if it is finished doing its job yet.
But there have been times, the best person wasn't chosen for the job because of it. I've also seen the Good ole boy system screw people too.

 

I'm definitely an equal opportunity offender. No matter what race, religion, sexual orientation, socio-economic status or any other group you belong to there are going to be people who squash the stereotypes and people who reinforce the stereotypes. It used to **** me off when I was in college (early 90's) and ALL of the black students were automatically part of the "Black United Students" group/club or whatever it was, but we couldn't have a White United Students. And this was at Kent State (yah, the same one that had the shootings in 1970) which was supposed to be pretty liberal and all.

Have I dated out of my race? No. Would I? Yes and anyone who has a problem with it has the problem, not me. If someone of a different race, ethnic background or whatever is good to me, supports me in my endeavors, and treats me the way I want to be treated then I consider myself lucky to have found a good PERSON.

As far as all the groups go, I think a lot of them need to go away because all they seem to do is push us further backward and beat dead horses instead of advancing us forward as a HUMAN race. We should all have pride in our heritage, but that does not include degrading someone elses or prejudging someone you've never even interacted with because it's different than yours. When I lived in AZ I was technically a minority being 'white' but got no minority benefits which is fine by me. I don't need or want special treatment. I have to agree with every word of that email. Having limitations based on the color of someone's skin or religion or whatever needs to go away. I will, however, jump on and drive the band wagon to require everyone living here to do so legally and be able to speak English or some form of it, but that's a whole different can of worms.

 

isnt affirmative action telling minorties"you arent quite qualified for this job but...we have to meet the quota so.." that cant make feel accomplished. say for example you need major life saving surgery. say you end up with a black, spanish,indian etc...whoever for a surgeon..sure they got thru medical school but did they pass with all "A" OR..did they get some help along the way. point is black ,white, spanish etc.. we all want the doctor that scored the best in med school or who did better on the civil service test etc...

 

Think yourself lucky you don't live in the UK, our government bends over so much not to appear racist that if i were to fly the st george cross outside my house and an "ethnic minority" were to complain i could be told to take it down and if i refuse arrested for racial antagonism. I can't even fly my national flag!!

personally i have my own thoughts on race, which im not sure a truck board is the correct place for them. but im not sure im racist. but when i was younger i applied to the fire service only to be told that i was perfect for the job however they were only allowed to take ethnic minorities in my area because the percentage was down!!!!

thats what annoys me!!

 

isnt that what m.l.k was saying? ? judge a man on his chracter and accomplishments etc.. not the color of his skin. you got race baiters like al sharpton out there making things worse.youll never hear him tell the minority community to coperate with the police or anything like that or when the cop says" put your weapon down" 5 times and then is forced to take action and shoot ..never hear these so called"activists" telling the whole story.

 

Do you have anything more than your opinion to support your position?

 

Are you in that much denial?

Tell you what Drew, show me that even your favorite news network CNN has HALF as many stories pointing out how the groups we were discussing are wrong or racist (ie black only colleges etc) compared to stories about the opposite being true for whites (ie idea for a white only college fund, or WET tv station etc), and I will gladly admit to you that I was wrong, and I'll even toss an Obama sticker on my car too.

(I'll be waiting, but hardly shaking...)