Hey, ah... Vickers was a lap down too bud.

I don't know of any other driver who would've blocked a faster car when they're both a lap down. That's like blocking the leader who's getting ready to lap you (again).
Watch the replay... Jr. had position on Vickers. You can see Vickers' car wiggle from hitting the 88 while trying to "block".

As far as the 18... I LoL-ed when I saw the crumpled front end of the Toy Yoda emerge from the smoke.

 

Same as you, the Daytona 500. I'm not a Jr. fan or even somewhat like Jr., unlike you, so therefore I have a different opinion on the outtake. Ya vickers bumped him to move him below the yellow line but thats still no reason for Jr. to come back up onto the track and hit the left rear quarter panel of vickers.

 

Yes, it was a shame.

 

I'm not a Junior fan either. 99.9% of Nascar will tell you it was just a racing incident between two drivers.

 

The big difference between Jr and Sr is that Sr would have not taken himself out, just the others.

 

I highly doubt the percentage would be anywhere close to that high. I'm not trying to say 100% it was Juniors fault but he clearly came back up the track and hit vickers. After the first contact, there was a second contact and thats what took out those 9 or 10 cars.

 

Yea, that block was not needed. Vickers bumped, not just blocked, but bumped Jr. off the track, when Jr. was coming back onto the track, he tapped vickers.

Go to 2:18 into the video for the in-car view, and you can see how vickers bumped him off the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uT8r...eature=related

Maybe Jr intended to bump him, or misjudged how much clearance he had. But Vickers is every bit as guilty, if not more guilty then Jr. You can say thats racing, but you can't just swerve around the track sideswipping everyone so they can't pass you. You can block all day long, but blocking and running you car into someone elses are two different things.

 

Junior came out of that incident unscathed.

 

None of it was Junior's fault. Vickers was beaten to the position. The wreck was Vickers fault.

 

I was looking at it before you posted. It sure looks like Vickers made a bad move to me.

 

True, but I really like the way JR. is trying to weasel his way out of the blame. He made it sound like he had his signal light on and his hand out the window for 1000 feet before he made the move on Vickers and then how he had a hard time controling his car when he was "forced" to the grass. It's called using better judgement and backing out of the throttle.

I wonder if the roles were reversed, would Vickers been assessed a penalty?

Just food for thought.....

 

Bottom line is Jr. had the option to back out of the throttle and not turn into Vickers....

 

No he wouldn't get a penalty. If penalties are given for that the races would never end.

 

He did, Vickers made a poor move to block so close to the corner when Junior had a run, and position. Junior was forced to let off, and they lightly touched. Vickers hit Junior much harder.

 

The Nationwide race didn't go on forever, and I believe a 5 lap penalty was accessed for almost the same situation....