Alright guys, I know some of you have to be into lifting weights. My question is this I been using this pro performance S**t from GNC for a year now. Its 100% Whey, it creates pretty much a frothy mess and tastes horrible. Then out of now where about a month before I had the kid I started having some serious stomach issues on it. I am not a little dude I have no reason to gain weight, so am I just Fin myself up taking Whey? A dude at the gym recommended I use egg protein. So what do you guys eat protein wise, dont have to be a weight lifter either maybe a runner or just a health nut. Drop me some info im looking for something that will blend smooth and at least be drinkable. L8tr

 

If you can just eat good food you won't really need the supplements, especially since you're still relatively young (right?). My main protein sources are chicken and fish (usually salmon). I'll make a steak every now and again, usually more in the summertime when I can grill.

As far as additives, I'll have egg protein added to my after-workout smoothie, but that's it. Maybe a daily multi-vitamin, if I remember, which is rarely.

It really depends on what your goals are. If you don't need to add mass, I wouldn't waste the time or money on extra protein, creatine, etc.

- NCSU

 

First off your not gonna F yourself up just taking whey protein. As far as lifting goes the stuff that stays constant in my intake is Whey, L-Glutamine, a preworkout supp(i take superpump 250), omega 3 fish oil, and creatine monohydrate. Personally i prefer EAS myoplex for whey. Little more pricey but well worth it.

 

My fav is MuscleMilk. The new formula has less fat and blends oh so nice. Add a bit of fruit & a few ice cubes and YUM! I also mix mine with FF milk. :drools:

 

Take the whey but eat healthy. Also take fish oil and an Amino Acid supplement. Aminos are what turn all that protein into muscle. With out enough Amino, your wasting whey. I also took creatine but half what the bottle directed. I gained size fast (not stretch marks) and strength and lost weight (I also kept to a good diet) eating 5xs a day and working out 1 hour 3 times a week (I worked a full time job, part time job, and full time student) I also played at least 2 rounds of disc golf a week. It keeps the chemicals moving through you.

 

Multivitamins; Aminos; Joint supplements; fish oil; Glutamine; Whey and Casein protein. That is all you need. None of that noxplode, creatine, or any other crap is needed.
Eat good too. I take protein shakes b/c there is no way I can eat around 200grams of protein a day, so the shakes help reach that goal.
It also all depends on your goals, how you lift. If you just do it light, to stay healthy, then all that isn't needed. But if you're putting up good weight for BB'ing, then you need the supps. If you're powerlifting, or just lifting really, really heavy. Shoot yourself to save the pain later in life, and money on joint surgeries. That is, unless you compete. Then that is all you.

 

Cool man, at first I though no one would care bout this topic. I don't play on any other forums other than this one so I though I would throw it out there. Thanks guys!

 

Hey, we do other stuff besides truckstuff too!

- NCSU

 

Protein wise, figure a chicken breast (grilled not fried) is about 12g of protein, a hard boiled egg is around 6g. Your average protein shake has about 35-50g of protein on average. You need to take 1-1.5g of protein for every pound of lean muscle. So figure you weigh 200lbs and are 18% body fat, you would need to take in between 165-246g of protein a day. It's a lot but if you take 3 shakes a day (first thing in the morning, after work out, before bed) that's already between 105 - 150g of protein.

What are your goals? You want to get bigger/leaner/toned?

 

I am a freshman in college right now and am about 6 ft 230 lbs with under 10% body fat. I have been taking whey since I was a freshman in high school and i give it a lot of credit for my current stature and records. It is a great, simple, safe supplement that is 100% natural. ARe you sure that you havent been eating something that is causing the stomach problems. if not try a lot of different kinds. i love the gnc pro performance, my brother takes syntha 6 and he squats 550 lbs. muscle milk is great too. or you could always eat egg whites, also instead of taking like 3 scoops all at one time, take a scoop in the morning when you wake up, because whey is a very fast digesting protein that gets into your system fast after you have been dormant for 8 hrs or so, and then take the other 2 scoops post workout. just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps.

 

Well to be honest hammer. I didn't really wanna put it out there thou I should, when I was in the service I came into contact unknowing with some contaminated chems. Actually it was a small bout 7gallon spill I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. After that and for the last 5 years I have been diagnosed with chemical nerve intoxication currently of the stomach, they are actually looking into the feet as well having some serious cramping and fatigue. Go figure, and yes I have alot of other stomach problems. I and kinda embarrest by the whole thing which explains why I didn't put it out there but thats why I put that about whey to see if anyone would respond in a manner of "oh yeah that stuff is wicked on stomach" My doc says I can take anything I want for lifting. Other than the nerve issue im really healthy. Im about 6ft and weight around 230, its not all muscle tho I am a avid collector of foods from all over the country so I have a large investment in my belly lol. To be honest working 12 graveyards is horrible for a diet! I dunno man maybe its just the consistancy of the whey that works againsts my stomach? Seems that I am still able to put on size and strength well but man I know it would be 10x more if I intake protein correct.

 

O dang man. Im sorry, that sucks. I know that a ton of whey can be hard on the kidneys but its gotta be a metric butt ton, and if you drink plenty of water then your fine. Your case is very unique and im no doctor but the stuff you came into contact with could definetely be messing with the whey in you. and man i wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything i was just going off personal experience. I have a ton of respect for you guys and was super close to joining the marines myself. what branch were you in?

 

If you want something to get jacked check out www.ctdlabs.com . I did a 1 month cycle of Trenbolen. You will probably test positive for hormones but I was able to buy it over the counter at my local Nutrition Depot. I put on 14lbs of muscle. My body fat changed less than 1%. I wish I would have bought another bottle to do 2 months worth. My biggest regret is not eating right the first 2 weeks of my cycle and not kicking my cardio.

 

whoa whoa whoa.. calm down people.. where are you getting these numbers from? over 200g of protein a day.. are you serious? lol..

I'm sorry, but you guys have got it all wrong.. I'm sure some of you might be fairly educated and all, but don't be so quick to believe your online pharmacist or weight lifting buddies.. I guarantee you neither of which has any true concept of how protein works in the body.

If you want some factual info go pick up a Nutrition textbook from your local college or browse some .gov nutrition websites.. otherwise 99% of the literature out there is more than likely just marketing ploys.. never obtain your info from a suppliers website..
here's a good one to do your own calculations of calories, proteins and etc.. http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
and here's a good article definately worth reading.. http://www.scribd.com/doc/256125/Small-Bites-Issue-6

Anywho.. since I'm on my soap box, I'll take the time to spread some real facts

Whey protein is in fact the best and most complete protein out there, it's about 99% efficient as far as proteins go.. It's also true that it is one of the most easily digestable proteins. btw.. OP, the whey protein itself, more than likely isn't causing any issues, you may have just consumed too much witout enough water. btw.. there is such a thing as too much protein.. without getting to much into the metabolic details, when protein is broken down, ammonia is a product of that catabolism. Ammonia is toxic to the nervous system and its accumulation rapidly causes death. Therefore it must be detoxified to a form which can be readily removed from the body. Ammonia is converted to urea, which is water soluble and is readily excreted via the kidneys in urine. Too much protein, isn't really good for the proteins.. here's a truck anaolgy if it helps.. say your truck normally runs at 2000rpms, now imagine running your truck at 5000rpms, sure it may not redline until 5400rpms, but the excessive stress isn't good for the truck either way that being said, your kidneys can only do soo much, be nice to them.

As far as needing, 1-1.5g of protein per lb of body weight.. close, but wrong.. it's actually much closer to 1-1.5g of protein per kg! and that's a maximum recommended amount for weight lifters, mind you.. 1kg = 2.2 lbs.. to put this into perspective, an average adult only needs 0.8g per kg daily. So lets do some math, take an adult that weighs 200 lbs, and wants to seriously lift some weights! 200 lbs / 2.2 = 90kg. 90kg * 1.5g = 135g of protein (MAX).. well, that may not seem like a lot to you protein junkies, but it may still be too much.. your body can barely synthesize about 75-100g of protein into muscle daily, and that's stretching it.. the rest is metabolized as energy.. btw, you need carbs to synthesize protein, without enough carbs, your protein is useless.. and it may be metabolized/excreted instead of synthesized. So sure, you can always take more protein to compensate for that, but protein doesn't metabolize as readily as carbs, nor is it as healthy or efficient.

Now there are too many people to quote here, but here's a few corrections. 1 serving of chicken breast (3 oz), that's like a few bites, lol.. thats about 26g of protein. So unless my math is wrong, 1lb of chicken = about 140g of protein.. "Without enough amino, you wasting whey.." lol, what? Amino acids are what make up proteins.. so in other words, you get aminos from your whey.. now.. multivitamins, joint supplements, and fish oils..? too much of a multivitamin can be toxic, vitamins A,D,E, and K are not water soluable and can be stored in your body, and are not readily excreted in your urine, and fish oils affect the cardiovascular system more than anything else..

okay.. so say for some strange reason you don't get about 100g of protein daily from your diet, although I would imagine otherwise considering you weigh 230lbs.. and your serious about weight lifting, I would only recommend taking an additional 25g of protein from whey a day, even if that. And do your best to find a supplement with the least amount of additives, most have creatine monohydrate thrown in there, and that's and enitrely different discussion. As I said before, make sure you have plenty of carbs in your diet, you need them to actually synthesize the protein.. Strikes, considering your 6' 230lbs, your daily maximums of protein would be much closer to 104-156g.

Now many of you might think I'm speaking blaspehmy! I'll be the first to admit I'm not a Registered Dietician.. but I am a nursing student that's taken my fair share of extra nutrition courses.

 

100% ON Whey is about as good as it gets.


im too lazy to take supplements.