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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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My girls could do anything to our 100 lb shepherd and he'd go done and expose his belly, totally submit. Not that they ever tormented him but, he had to know his place.
Exactly... Both my dogs are the same way, and that's cause my wife and I took the time to make sure they are submissive to both our children.

The dog does need to be removed, because the mother is just chalking this one up to experience, and I can almost promise that it will happen again.

A 2 year old kid should know better, but if the mother never takes the time to teach them both, then what can you do? Other than send flowers at the funeral.

Should the dog be shot, no. Unless is was a pitbull...I have nothing against pitbulls but not in a kid environment after an incident like this. They are just too unpredictable.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxerjasen
1. The kids two? You've said that twice and I have no idea what you are saying.
He's saying that the kid is two years old and is too young to understand, therefore not to blame.

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2. Kids learn hard lessons. You can't protect them from everything. My mom let me climb trees and I fell out and learned some things from that. The kid yanked on the dogs ears despite mom telling him to stop. (which points to other problems and I do think mom is the biggest problem here) He got snapped at and I bet he shows the dog more physical respect. Should the lesson have been learned that way? Heck no! Mom should have pulled him off, smacked his hand, spanked him, etc. He should have learned the lesson from mom, not the dog...but I bet it was a lesson learned none the less. That's hardly picking the dog over the kid.


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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
I blasted Gixxer for blaming the media and not the mother....
Here's an example of you shooting off at the mouth incorrectly. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I blasted the media for blowing the situation out of proportion. They were going for a reaction while minimizing the facts. Take the whole comment about scars. The kids wounds haven't even healed yet, so how can he be scarred. This is an example of unethical reporting which I so very much hate. The author didn't simply report the story, but went out to get a reaction. I do blame the mother and have never stated that I did not. I also did not blame the media for this happening, simply criticized the manner in which it was reported.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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I bet you have trouble making friends, eh Shines?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
He's saying that the kid is two years old and is too young to understand, therefore not to blame.
Got it, thanks.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jk007
Should the dog be shot, no. Unless is was a pitbull...I have nothing against pitbulls but not in a kid environment after an incident like this. They are just too unpredictable.
I agreed up to this point...
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxerjasen
1. The kids two? You've said that twice and I have no idea what you are saying..
Exactly... You dont have kids! Nor do you understand the mind of a two year old. Thanks for proving my point.

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2. Kids learn hard lessons. You can't protect them from everything. My mom let me climb trees and I fell out and learned some things from that. The kid yanked on the dogs ears despite mom telling him to stop. (which points to other problems and I do think mom is the biggest problem here) He got snapped at and I bet he shows the dog more physical respect. Should the lesson have been learned that way? Heck no! Mom should have pulled him off, smacked his hand, spanked him, etc. He should have learned the lesson from mom, not the dog...but I bet it was a lesson learned none the less. That's hardly picking the dog over the kid.
You don't let a kid get into a dangerous situations with animals. So you are now backtracking, and blaming the mother instead of originally blaming the media?

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3. No I would not have laughed. That's quite a presumption on your part.
On this point, I conceed.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxerjasen
Here's an example of you shooting off at the mouth incorrectly. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I blasted the media for blowing the situation out of proportion. They were going for a reaction while minimizing the facts. Take the whole comment about scars. The kids wounds haven't even healed yet, so how can he be scarred. This is an example of unethical reporting which I so very much hate. The author didn't simply report the story, but went out to get a reaction. I do blame the mother and have never stated that I did not. I also did not blame the media for this happening, simply criticized the manner in which it was reported.
I will quote you again...

Kind of a tough decision though because it's not like it was an unprovoked attack, in which case I would be all for getting rid of the dog. The child was warned not to do it but kept it up. It might sound callous but that's a tough lesson to learn.
Did I put these words in you mouth?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxerjasen
Here's an example of you shooting off at the mouth incorrectly. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I blasted the media for blowing the situation out of proportion. They were going for a reaction while minimizing the facts. Take the whole comment about scars. The kids wounds haven't even healed yet, so how can he be scarred. This is an example of unethical reporting which I so very much hate. The author didn't simply report the story, but went out to get a reaction. I do blame the mother and have never stated that I did not. I also did not blame the media for this happening, simply criticized the manner in which it was reported.
I think Shine has some reading comprehension issues. He said I tried to put words into his mouth, which I never did....

Regardless, you are completely correct. This is exactly the type of story that tends to get blown out of proportion. The media has learned what draws our attention, and will pander to that crap. Anything they can make seem sensational sells.


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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302


I bet you have trouble making friends, eh Shines?
I laughed pretty hard at this...My words come back to haunt me...But concerning this thread...I don't care.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Der Wolfhound growled at my friend one day when out shooting. Well my friend wasn't having this behavior from his dog so he lit off a 12 gage round, which struck in front of the dog, and it learned its lesson and was a good dog thereafter. Unfortunately it could not be broken of its blood lust for small game including cats. The hound used to be chained in the backyard and one neighborhood cat would stay just out of it's reach and tease it. Well one day it was not chained and the cat got the surprise of its life.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dinty
I agreed up to this point...
I knew I'd get some slack for the pitbull comment. But, that's how I feel. Just too many uncertainties with that breed of dog around kids. I am sure they can be trained to be tolerable and accepting of young children's behavior, but I am not taking that chance around my kids. Now, I don't feel that way about adults owning pitbulls, or even parents who can monitor them easily around their kids. But if the dog in the story was a pitbull, I'd be pushing for a bullet in the head. Just my opinion, not saying I'm right or wrong.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
I think Shine has some reading comprehension issues. He said I tried to put words into his mouth, which I never did....

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Ding Ding Ding! Most sensible people can understand that, most of the discussion arose from Shine's less than courteous responses.

Oh, Shine, there is a difference between "picking the dog over their kid" and not killing the dog. I'm starting to doubt if you can see the difference though.
An insinuation was made on your part, in your post...
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
You should never have kids...I guess that saying it this way is much more polite.
Listen up Jack, I said whats the big deal? She said that the kid was antagonizing the dog. So shoot me! Its the truth! Don't try to criticize me because I didn't go ''oh no the poor kid'' Theres no point in saying that. Especially since every body and their mothers are saying that on this forum. What the woman said was the truth, the woman didn't say ''well my baby deserved it and i dont care about it'' and I'm not saying it either.
 
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