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From: North of Dallas, South of Frisco
Originally Posted by JBMX928
so u get 18 mpg? I hope its just poor winter bslend getting me 14 ... Is urs awd ? The sticker on this one says 15 / 22...
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From: E.C. Wisconsin
My wife and I bought a Black Edge SE about 9 months ago. We absolutely love it. I have nothing bad to say about it.
FYI, the 6 spd in it was co-designed with GM. Its the same tranny that is used in the GMC Arcadia.
FYI, the 6 spd in it was co-designed with GM. Its the same tranny that is used in the GMC Arcadia.
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From: Vernon, NY
Originally Posted by Quintin
They seem to be alright vehicles. I just hate working on them.
I got rid of that Escape ASAP because it was a total nightmare to work on. Hence I let the dealer do most of the work.
Packing 3.5l V6's into a tight fitting front wheel drive layouts is tough enough in a factory. I know how bad they are when they are fully assembled.
I hated how hard it was to pull the plugs and do other general maintainence on that thing. I would have hated to be the one to change the serpentine belt on it.
Our compass actually has a lot of room to do work in it... not to mention it is an i4 so plug swaps are a synch. Surprisingly, the o2s are easy to get at too. The only hard part would be the serpentine belt and a drive accessory. Other than that it is decently easy.
A friend has a 500 and he asked me to swap the plugs in it, and he's got something like 80k on the factorys, and I popped the hood, and I said, "no friggin' way!" The back 3 would've been a nightmare in reality.
However, even though my Dakota's engine is PACKED with engine with the v8... it's still a joy to work on because most everything is up front... nothing on the side or back. Same way on my F150.
I just don't like how manufacturers are forcing the public to have them bring their vehicles to a dealer. Kinda kills people like me fixing their own vehicles.
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
Ditto here bud.
I got rid of that Escape ASAP because it was a total nightmare to work on. Hence I let the dealer do most of the work.
Packing 3.5l V6's into a tight fitting front wheel drive layouts is tough enough in a factory. I know how bad they are when they are fully assembled.
I hated how hard it was to pull the plugs and do other general maintainence on that thing. I would have hated to be the one to change the serpentine belt on it.
Our compass actually has a lot of room to do work in it... not to mention it is an i4 so plug swaps are a synch. Surprisingly, the o2s are easy to get at too. The only hard part would be the serpentine belt and a drive accessory. Other than that it is decently easy.
A friend has a 500 and he asked me to swap the plugs in it, and he's got something like 80k on the factorys, and I popped the hood, and I said, "no friggin' way!" The back 3 would've been a nightmare in reality.
However, even though my Dakota's engine is PACKED with engine with the v8... it's still a joy to work on because most everything is up front... nothing on the side or back. Same way on my F150.
I just don't like how manufacturers are forcing the public to have them bring their vehicles to a dealer. Kinda kills people like me fixing their own vehicles.
I got rid of that Escape ASAP because it was a total nightmare to work on. Hence I let the dealer do most of the work.
Packing 3.5l V6's into a tight fitting front wheel drive layouts is tough enough in a factory. I know how bad they are when they are fully assembled.
I hated how hard it was to pull the plugs and do other general maintainence on that thing. I would have hated to be the one to change the serpentine belt on it.
Our compass actually has a lot of room to do work in it... not to mention it is an i4 so plug swaps are a synch. Surprisingly, the o2s are easy to get at too. The only hard part would be the serpentine belt and a drive accessory. Other than that it is decently easy.
A friend has a 500 and he asked me to swap the plugs in it, and he's got something like 80k on the factorys, and I popped the hood, and I said, "no friggin' way!" The back 3 would've been a nightmare in reality.
However, even though my Dakota's engine is PACKED with engine with the v8... it's still a joy to work on because most everything is up front... nothing on the side or back. Same way on my F150.
I just don't like how manufacturers are forcing the public to have them bring their vehicles to a dealer. Kinda kills people like me fixing their own vehicles.
My roommate, who had a 325i thought it felt strong too. He said, "Man, does this thing have a v8 in it? I said, "I don't know- I haven't even looked."
So, when we got back to the barracks, we popped the hood and there they were, three spark plugs. The plate said 3.1L V6, and it was traversely mounted, but I thought I'd at least get to see all 6 plugs.
He said, "I'll be damned, it is a V6!" I said, I wonder why they put the engine in like this. We can only reach 3 of the plugs. How are we gonna get to the other three?"
He said, "Oh- you got to pay to see the other three!"
LOL- I just remembered that conversation as you guys mention how they're forcign you by design, to have to pay to have your car maintained.
Come to find out. You had to loosen bolts on two brackets, and the engine rotated forward about 12 inches, exposing the other bank of cylinders.
Hmmm, that was 14 years ago...
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From: Vernon, NY
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Yeah, I had a v6 (3.1L) 1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme SL Coupe, and I liked the car- so I bought it. I had done hardly any research on it, since "regular" cars are rarely profiled in major magazines. So, I wasn't sure if it was a V6 or a V8. Compared to my 95 HP 2.2L i4, it felt like a V8.
My roommate, who had a 325i thought it felt strong too. He said, "Man, does this thing have a v8 in it? I said, "I don't know- I haven't even looked."
So, when we got back to the barracks, we popped the hood and there they were, three spark plugs. The plate said 3.1L V6, and it was traversely mounted, but I thought I'd at least get to see all 6 plugs.
He said, "I'll be damned, it is a V6!" I said, I wonder why they put the engine in like this. We can only reach 3 of the plugs. How are we gonna get to the other three?"
He said, "Oh- you got to pay to see the other three!"
LOL- I just remembered that conversation as you guys mention how they're forcign you by design, to have to pay to have your car maintained.
Come to find out. You had to loosen bolts on two brackets, and the engine rotated forward about 12 inches, exposing the other bank of cylinders.
Hmmm, that was 14 years ago...
My roommate, who had a 325i thought it felt strong too. He said, "Man, does this thing have a v8 in it? I said, "I don't know- I haven't even looked."
So, when we got back to the barracks, we popped the hood and there they were, three spark plugs. The plate said 3.1L V6, and it was traversely mounted, but I thought I'd at least get to see all 6 plugs.
He said, "I'll be damned, it is a V6!" I said, I wonder why they put the engine in like this. We can only reach 3 of the plugs. How are we gonna get to the other three?"
He said, "Oh- you got to pay to see the other three!"
LOL- I just remembered that conversation as you guys mention how they're forcign you by design, to have to pay to have your car maintained.
Come to find out. You had to loosen bolts on two brackets, and the engine rotated forward about 12 inches, exposing the other bank of cylinders.
Hmmm, that was 14 years ago...
Anyhow, yeah, I think it is insane though how much they pack in to the engine compartments. It's like you have to take 1/2 the engine apart to change a simple $1 component that could be easily done if the engine was mounted longitudinally instead of the nasty front wheel drive transverse layout.
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From: Rochester, MN
What kind of highway fuel mileage are you guys getting with the AWD Edge? I noticed that the '07 window sticker said 24 on the highway, and the '08 window sticker says 22 (not sure what changed)...was just wondering how accurate those numbers really are.
Have any of you Edge owners towed anything with your Edge? I currently have an F150 and small crossover (Pontiac Vibe). The only thing I really NEED my truck for is to pull a snowmobile trailer a few times every winter, and I'm wondering how the Edge would handle that. I know the Edge is rated to pull quite a bit more than my trailer with one sled on it (sled is probably around 550 lbs with gas), but I would be interested in hearing some real-world experiences. If an Edge could handle it with no problem, it would probably make better financial sense to own something like that, instead of a truck (to pull) and a car (for gas mileage).
Have any of you Edge owners towed anything with your Edge? I currently have an F150 and small crossover (Pontiac Vibe). The only thing I really NEED my truck for is to pull a snowmobile trailer a few times every winter, and I'm wondering how the Edge would handle that. I know the Edge is rated to pull quite a bit more than my trailer with one sled on it (sled is probably around 550 lbs with gas), but I would be interested in hearing some real-world experiences. If an Edge could handle it with no problem, it would probably make better financial sense to own something like that, instead of a truck (to pull) and a car (for gas mileage).
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Originally Posted by ChezHed
What kind of highway fuel mileage are you guys getting with the AWD Edge? I noticed that the '07 window sticker said 24 on the highway, and the '08 window sticker says 22 (not sure what changed)...was just wondering how accurate those numbers really are.
Have any of you Edge owners towed anything with your Edge? I currently have an F150 and small crossover (Pontiac Vibe). The only thing I really NEED my truck for is to pull a snowmobile trailer a few times every winter, and I'm wondering how the Edge would handle that. I know the Edge is rated to pull quite a bit more than my trailer with one sled on it (sled is probably around 550 lbs with gas), but I would be interested in hearing some real-world experiences. If an Edge could handle it with no problem, it would probably make better financial sense to own something like that, instead of a truck (to pull) and a car (for gas mileage).
Have any of you Edge owners towed anything with your Edge? I currently have an F150 and small crossover (Pontiac Vibe). The only thing I really NEED my truck for is to pull a snowmobile trailer a few times every winter, and I'm wondering how the Edge would handle that. I know the Edge is rated to pull quite a bit more than my trailer with one sled on it (sled is probably around 550 lbs with gas), but I would be interested in hearing some real-world experiences. If an Edge could handle it with no problem, it would probably make better financial sense to own something like that, instead of a truck (to pull) and a car (for gas mileage).
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...del=Edge%20AWD
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From: E.C. Wisconsin
Originally Posted by Zaairman
Yeah... No, its not. 
"General Motors and Ford Motor Company teamed up in 2002 to create a new automatic transmission design. The 6-speed transmission was developed after each company contributed US$720 million to the effort. It is a compact transaxle designed for transverse engine applications in cars and light trucks.
Each company will name and manufacture the transmission separately:
Ford will build the 6F at their Van Dyke Transmission Plant in Sterling Heights, Michigan and in the future at Sharonville Transmission in Sharonville, Ohio
GM builds the 6T70 and 6T75 at Warren Transmission in Warren, Michigan with production starting in July, 2006[1]
Ford claims the 6F is designed to handle 300 hp (224 kW) and 280 ft·lbf (380 N·m), while General Motors rates their 6T75 to 315 hp (235 kW) and 300 ft·lbf (407 N·m).
The first application of the technology is the 2007 Ford Edge and Lincoln MKX crossover SUVs as well as the Saturn Aura sedan and Saturn Outlook crossover."
Applications:
GM:
2007 Saturn Aura XR
2007 Pontiac G6 GTP
2007 Saturn Outlook
2007 GMC Acadia
2008 Buick Enclave
2008 Chevrolet Malibu LTZ (LY7 V6 Option)
Ford:
2007 Ford Edge
2007 Lincoln MKX
2008 Ford Taurus
2008 Ford Taurus X
2008 Mercury Sable
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/nyauto...06/Powertrain/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_6T70_transmission
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Nice thread. I get x plan through work and I am on my 1st lease with the wife's car. We have 2 kids and the Mariner is just way too small. Plus, no tow package. 
She "had to have it" though.
So, I'm looking at the either an AWD Edge or she wants to try out the Flex. I'll be pulling the trigger on one or the other come next Feb. The biggest thing I would ever pull with it would be a couple of sleds on a trailer.
Sounds like the perfect car for a 2 year lease. Wonder how the Flex will be?
I get x plan through work and I am on my 1st lease with the wife's car. We have 2 kids and the Mariner is just way too small. Plus, no tow package. She "had to have it" though. So, I'm looking at the either an AWD Edge or she wants to try out the Flex. I'll be pulling the trigger on one or the other come next Feb. The biggest thing I would ever pull with it would be a couple of sleds on a trailer.
Sounds like the perfect car for a 2 year lease. Wonder how the Flex will be?
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some crappy phone pics but heres the truck im lookin at. Its not a matter of getting this exact truck, it's about the deal, because there is 10 of the same exact truck on the lot lol.
nothin special for yall but amazing to me considering the truck i have now
nothin special for yall but amazing to me considering the truck i have now