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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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Political Positions of Ron Paul

I'm sure this has been posted already but I'm just trying to do my part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...ns_of_Ron_Paul

Ron Paul, who is the Champion of the Constitution, is:

1. Opposed to allowing the Federal Reserve to operate (gains the Informed Patriot vote)
2. Seeks to destroy Inflation by reinstating the Gold Standard for US currency. (gains the Tax payer vote)
3. Opposed to the Income tax (gains the tax payer vote)
4. Desires to abolish Property tax (gains the home owners vote)
5. Opposed to the War in Iraq or Nation building (follow the advice of the Founding Fathers) (gains the Peace lovers and the war veterans vote)
6. Desires a new Independent 9/11 Investigation (gains the 9/11 Truther and the anti NWO vote)
7. Supports the troops and wants to bring them home and put them on the Southern border (gains the White Patriot vote)
8. Seeks to end "Anchor baby citizenship" (gains the White Patriot vote)
9. Supports securing America's borders, by building a Fence along America's Southern border (gains the White Patriot vote)
10. No nation building, cut off all foreign aid including Israel (gains the anti-Zionist & Arab vote)
11. Supports Freedom of Speech, IE No Hate Laws (gains the informed Patriot vote)
12. Supports not censoring the Internet (gains the informed Patriot vote)
13. Is a Christian and supports traditional Christianity not Judeo Christianity (gains the Christian vote)
14. Supports Traditional Western Values and customs like Christmas (gains the Majority vote)
15. Supports American Sovereignty and wants America out of the UN (gains the informed Patriot vote)
16. Supports Habeas Corpus (gains the informed Patriot vote)
17. Is opposed to merging Mexico with the U.S. and Canada. NO to the North American Union. (gains the White & Black Nationalist vote)
18. Is opposed to outsourcing. Wants to bring the jobs back to America (gains the American worker vote)
19. Is a lover of Freedom of Speech. If some Whites (or any other minority or racial group) want to create "White Entertainment Television" then that is their right under the law. No reverse discrimination (gains the White Nationalist vote)
20. Supports banning Depleted Uranium Weapons, for the birth defects they spread (gains the humanitarian & Arab vote)
21. Supports environmentalism and furthering the advancement of Hydrogen and electric powered cars (gains the environmentalist vote)
22. Supports an affordable and sane health care system (gains the American worker and senior citizen vote)
23. Opposed to the Federal government legalizing gay marriage or changing the existing laws regarding
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 02:27 AM
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Ron Paul is this elections Ross Perot or Ralph Nader. He'll make a little noise and steal some votes. Hate to say it but that is as far as he'll go. He's got some good ideas, but he would never win a presidential election.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 02:49 AM
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It's sad that politicians on both sides have brainwashed the people into thinking Ron Paul isn't what this country needs when Ron Paul is EXACTLY what this country needs.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:09 AM
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3. Opposed to the Income tax (gains the tax payer vote)
4. Desires to abolish Property tax (gains the home owners vote)

Whats he going to do to fund the government?

We would need a 400% sales tax to make up for the lost income.

20. Supports banning Depleted Uranium Weapons, for the birth defects they spread (gains the humanitarian & Arab vote)

Like I give a chit about the Arab vote. Depleted Urainium weapons are a great weapon for peircing armor. Ron is going to send our guys into battle with substandard munitions to gain the Humanitarian vote??

15. Supports American Sovereignty and wants America out of the UN
Thats an idiots position. We are one of the five permenant members who have the authority to veto any resolution. Do you really think its a good idea to bail out of the U.N. and leave China and Russia in there?

They will screw us over in a heart beat.


Ron Paul also wants to abolish the FBI and the CIA.


The guy is a clown with no real world solutions. You cant solve global problems by pretending the rest of the world doesnt exist.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
Ron Paul is this elections Ross Perot or Ralph Nader. He'll make a little noise and steal some votes. Hate to say it but that is as far as he'll go. He's got some good ideas, but he would never win a presidential election.

...and that's sad.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Podunk
Whats he going to do to fund the government?

We would need a 400% sales tax to make up for the lost income.

Like I give a chit about the Arab vote. Depleted Urainium weapons are a great weapon for peircing armor. Ron is going to send our guys into battle with substandard munitions to gain the Humanitarian vote??

Thats an idiots position. We are one of the five permenant members who have the authority to veto any resolution. Do you really think its a good idea to bail out of the U.N. and leave China and Russia in there?

They will screw us over in a heart beat.

Ron Paul also wants to abolish the FBI and the CIA.


The guy is a clown with no real world solutions. You cant solve global problems by pretending the rest of the world doesnt exist.

Nonsense. Way to debate it on a the merits...."idiot", "clown"...dismiss him with name calling. Classic

Let's debunk some of your statements...why I bother I don't know but why not.

You won't need a 400% sales tax. You simply abolish all the insane spending and government programs. Allow a moderate sales tax and import tariffs to do the rest. If you are happy with the gov't spending and income taxes as they are vote for the status quo.

You truly believe that depleted Uranium is the only effective way of waging war? For that matter,the last 30 years worth of battles we have been in shouldn't have occurred. The last conflict that was necessary was WWII. We just stick our nose in business that doesn't concern us directly.

The UN is a joke. It is a government body that attempt to subvert our sovereignty while we are their primary support. You want to see how well the UN works? Pull the US out and find out how well they can effectively accomplish anything. You ready to give control of the Internet over to the UN? That is on their to do list.

While I'm not convinced the FBI and CIA need to be disbanded I'm not sure it shouldn't be either. I'd have to hear the arguments.

I don't necessarily agree with every position Paul takes but he is a lot better than the rest of the GOP field who just pat us on the head, say "trust us" and then do the same thing as the liberals that most conservatives profess to hate. Tax and spend.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
Ron Paul is this elections Ross Perot or Ralph Nader. He'll make a little noise and steal some votes. Hate to say it but that is as far as he'll go. He's got some good ideas, but he would never win a presidential election.
Neither Perot nor Nader "Stole" Votes, they earned them on their merits. Al Gore "Stole" votes by having as many thrown out as possible and qualifying as many as possible for himself. Kerry/Edwards "Stole" votes by having some pre-loaded onto the diebold machines prior to the polling stations opening.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by vader716
Nonsense. Way to debate it on a the merits...."idiot", "clown"...dismiss him with name calling. Classic

Let's debunk some of your statements...why I bother I don't know but why not.

You won't need a 400% sales tax. You simply abolish all the insane spending and government programs. Allow a moderate sales tax and import tariffs to do the rest. If you are happy with the gov't spending and income taxes as they are vote for the status quo.

You are a Gawd, vader.

Originally Posted by vader716
We just stick our nose in business that doesn't concern us directly.

The UN is a joke. It is a government body that attempt to subvert our sovereignty while we are their primary support. You want to see how well the UN works? Pull the US out and find out how well they can effectively accomplish anything. You ready to give control of the Internet over to the UN? That is on their to do list.

While I'm not convinced the FBI and CIA need to be disbanded I'm not sure it shouldn't be either. I'd have to hear the arguments.

I don't necessarily agree with every position Paul takes but he is a lot better than the rest of the GOP field who just pat us on the head, say "trust us" and then do the same thing as the liberals that most conservatives profess to hate. Tax and spend.

I love you........but not like CrAz3D loves you.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Most of his positions sound good and would be great ideals, but are not realistic and achievable. It's typical politics, offer voters what they want to hear, get elected, then do what you want to or what is required to keep the country going. I doubt very much that if he did get elected, he would have the intestinal fortitude or the necessary clout to accomplish even one of those ideals.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by vader716
While I'm not convinced the FBI and CIA need to be disbanded I'm not sure it shouldn't be either. I'd have to hear the arguments.

I dont rthink he actually wants to do away with them COMPLWETELY ... I believe he wants to "fix" those 2.

...but I could be wrong....got a link for me to investigate?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
If you drop the personal income tax you still have slightly less than the current revenue. But this would mean cutting military, Social Security, medicaid, and a lot of other programs ... I'm not necessarily against all of that, but that's a helluva job.
The federal government doesn't do property taxes, that's state stuff...and states can do whatever because the states have the right. I sort of doubt that Ron Paul has a stance against states' rights.

Exactly, and that's his point.

The Federal Government is involved in too much crap that needs to be handled by the states, not the government.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
Most of his positions sound good and would be great ideals, but are not realistic and achievable. It's typical politics, offer voters what they want to hear, get elected, then do what you want to or what is required to keep the country going. I doubt very much that if he did get elected, he would have the intestinal fortitude or the necessary clout to accomplish even one of those ideals.
So because he may not get it accomplished you don't vote for him? Why not give him the chance? The presidency is as much about using the bully pulpit as it is about signing legislation.

He could with executive orders do quite a bit of restructuring. We have over a 1000 military bases (I believe that is correct off of memory). Do we really need a 1000 bases? He could close them down overseas. He could direct our foreign policy. He can browbeat the senate into ratifying the treaties.

The real spineless people are those in congress now. You think they would stand up to someone who says "So you want to vote against my removal of the IRS? I'll personally identify each of you in my next national address."

They'll fold up like the sheep they are.

To this day he votes against federal subsidies for his own district because he believes they are unconstitutional. Yet somehow he keeps getting elected.
 

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vader716
So because he may not get it accomplished you don't vote for him? Why not give him the chance? The presidency is as much about using the bully pulpit as it is about signing legislation.

He could with executive orders do quite a bit of restructuring. We have over a 1000 military bases (I believe that is correct off of memory). Do we really need a 1000 bases? He could close them down over seas. He could direct our foreign policy. He can browbeat the senate into ratifying the treaties.

The real spineless people are those in congress now. You think they would stand up to someone who says "So you want to vote against my removal of the IRS? I'll personally identify each of you in my next national address."

They'll fold up like the sheep they are.

To this day he votes against federal subsidies for his own district because he believes they are unconstitutional. Yet someone he keeps getting elected.

Keep it all coming Jim.....I'm diggin this stuff.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jamzwayne
I dont rthink he actually wants to do away with them COMPLWETELY ... I believe he wants to "fix" those 2.

...but I could be wrong....got a link for me to investigate?
Q: You say that you would eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the Federal Reserve, the Department of Homeland Security, Medicare. You used to want to end the FBI. But if you get rid of the CIA, let alone the FBI, how would President Paul have any idea, any intelligence of what our enemies, foreign and domestic, are up to?

A: Well, you might ask a better question. Before 9/11, we were spending $40 billion a year, and the FBI was producing numerous information about people being trained on airplanes, to fly them but not land them. And they totally ignored them. So it's the inefficiency of the bureaucracy that is the problem. So, increasing this with the Department of Homeland Security and spending more money doesn't absolve us of the problem. Yes, we have every right in the world to know something about intelligence gathering. But we have to have intelligent people interpreting this information.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_...d_Security.htm
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Thank you sir.

I will share this link on another forum.
 
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