It is retarded, because it is a fact...It should never even be discussed

This is just an assinine statement...It does not matter where the money comes from and who it goes to...It all goes into the same hopper, and the state has you sitting there with your thumb up your butt not able to understand simple math.

Your thump still up butt...So they take proberty tax and divert it towards police gas...It all goes in the same state bank account. If not, then subsets of a main account.

You are stating opinion, and what you have been told.

Cite: Dallas Mayor Laura Miller: "If the police would start writing more tickets, we would have more funds."

 

My ignorance comment was directed at stopper NOT you, and not JUST for the revenue comment. I don't claim to be an expert on Highway Patrol Agencies, why, because we don't have them here in KY. We have the KSP that does do road duty but it's not thier major time consumer. We have KVE that does do road duty but again commercial vehicles are thier bread and butter, and then we have county agencies like mine who's main objective is paper serving, responding to calls and if we have time, road duty. City agencies do more road duty than anyone and again thier main goal is answering calls.
So to sum it up, I'm from a different world than you Texans are so I can't comment on how your governments take in revenue BUT the gist of my comments were that public safety is paramount not revenue. BESIDES, In Ky the revenue from tickets does not go back to that particular agency, it's put into the state's general fund and distributed by the state government as they see fit with no attention paid what agency filled the coffers the most.

Oh and one more thing. If you expect to gain any respect from me or anyone else concerning the matters at hand, starting off with the comment that you are a frequent flyer in the defensive driver program doesn't help your case. It shows me that you think the laws of the land don't apply to you and it shows me the lack of respect for your fellow man. I don't care what kind of roads you drive on, if they are marked for a certain speed, that is the limit period. Just because you don't agree with that speed limit doesn't give you the right to ignore it.

 

You mean he is all over the south?


" The parts of Arkansas we were riding in have no cops."

 

I never said it wasn't a lot of money. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit I see. Do you know what the budget of just one of those 40 State police units is? No you don't and neither do I. Take the amount of that 2.3 billion that the units actually get and divide it by 40 and see how far it goes. As has been pointed out to you they do not get all the revenue from those tickets. You complain about the know-it-alls but you are the one spouting off the "facts".

 

I live in Dallas but I was on a 1100 mile motorcycle ride. We started in Dallas and rode all the way through Oklahoma, Arkansas, and part of Missouri. Arkansas has some beautiful country to ride thorugh. Its VERY rural out there on those two lane roads through the Ozark Mountains.

 

Ok let me help you out. Let's keep it simple here.
one cruiser= 20,000 +/-
equipment (radio, siren, lights, stripes, in-car video, cage, etc.)= 7,500 +/-
Fuel per day= $50 +/-
Insurance= we won't even calculate that in since it varies so much.
Maintenance= approximately 3 cents per mile is average here.
So that's the initial costs(27,500) plus the upkeep costs ($2000 per month) that equals 51,500 per year per car. times that by the number of police cars on the road.

Now since there is no way to accurately find out how many new cars are on the road in each state without doing tons of reasearch and spending tons of money. Let's look at it this way.

$23000000000
23 billion dollars divided by just those 40 states is
575 million per state.
575 million divided by 51,500 is 11,165 brand spanking new police cars for 1 year per state. Ok, there are 23,507,783 people in Texas as of 2006. So that is one new police cruiser for every 2105 and a half people in Texas. Sounds good right, OH wait that would mean that ever cent of that money is spent on new police cars and fuel. But we all know that isn't the case is it, it's spent on schools, roads, streetlights, sewer systems, and about a million other things. Oh and that is JUST the cars, you still have to pay the officer, put him in uniform, buy his gun, his belt, his shoes, his jacket, his benifits, his bond, his training, his workers comp...shall I go on?


EDIT: OOOOPS I did my calculations on 23 billion, NOT 2.3 billion. I guess money just don't go as far as it used to I guess. LOL

 

this thread has gone WAY off topic!

 

But it is only 2.3 milion which comes out to only 57.5 million per force.
So it is even less. Only 1,165 cruisers. One for every 21,050 people. Eek.

 

Uh...shouldnt taxes pay for those things? And what the heck am I paying taxes for? To purshase the said supplies to create more revenue through tickets??? You're missing the point about 2.3 billion being an amount of GENERATED revenue from STATE police tickets...I did not look up city...shall I go on???

 

No you shouldn't. First rule of holes: When in one stop digging.

 

Are we not talking about tickets?

 

DUDE, you've gone back to aguing MY point, TAXES do pay for those things. Revenue from tickes do not. If you don't want to pay taxes and speed as much as you want, buy yourself an island and drive as fast as you want.

Besides the best way to keep from paying that Ticket Tax is not to do something that gets you ticketed in the first place. You won't pay a dime that way.

 

Actually, In Texas its a state law that Cities can only keep 30% of the traffic revenue they collected in the previous year. The state gets the other 70%. The state law requires that this 70% be used in Road and bridge building, road safety programs, officer safety training, and to help off set the cost of County law enforcement.

Its been that way since 1989.


In Michigan every ticket collected nets $5 for the law enforcement agency that writes it.

Tickets bring in revenue, but its far from a profit maker.

The way I see it, Your fines should be used for traffic enforcement. After all its the morons getting all the tickets that are requiring the state to spend all the cash on patrol cars and traffic cops.

Why should I have to pony up $$$ so the state can baby sit bad drivers?

 

sorry I gave facts..but the budget was not in question...2.3 billion was GENERATED revenue from ticketing. Crap, I did it again. Me stating facts again. If I gave you 10 thousand dollars, you'd crap your pants because you thought that it was alot of money. If I gave you a dollar, you'd think whatever...When I quote facts about 2.3 billion being generated in revenue, you reply by saying:
I dont get your logic...IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW FAR 2.3 BILLION GOES! It is generated, and its a buttload of money to create with our TAXES being used to generate it...

 

I dont pay tickets...