I already know everything.

 

I give then.

 

Heck yeah it was!

Where the h.e. double hockey sticks have you been?!

BTW, nice replies- everyone.

 

I still respect you.

 

Luckily for us the liberals won’t be in charge as the majority of Americans haven’t supported them in years because of no action but just feel good words. I don’t think the majority of Americans will be supporting conservatives, those who call themselves conservatives but act like liberals, for a long while either. The reason for that is not to do with them speaking feel good words and no action but the opposite. They have spent more money on more social programs then the liberals could have ever thought of.

They remind me of kids looking at a big plate of cookies. They figure if they can get to them and eat them all up before the other kids there will be none left. They have spent money figuring we won’t have any to spend but we all know money is easy to print like cookies are easy to bake. Liberals can and will spend at every chance…

Many of the things President Bush has done have been what I would consider liberal socialism. I wished he have vetoed the health care bill due to it being just that, a social program, rather then some other stupid reason. It’s not that I don’t want to help children I do and to do that is completely take all government and state’s completely out of the social health care network and then let the health care network compete like any other private business. When business competes you get better quality products and lower cost, same for medical and medical insurance.

I don’t want to get into a long debate here about that but it’s a short explanation for those that may think I don’t care about the children. I do but my actions would out weigh any liberal with the words they speak and promise they may make but will never keep.

 

So how are you my good friend? And, great thread so far...

Someone mentioned that you could “not” be a conservative AND support the war on terror going on in Iraq.

Well, here I am as a conservative to tell you YES some of us could and do completely support the war on terror in Iraq. That is exactly what it is, call me liberal, moderate or conservative and I agree with the vast majority of liberals, moderates and conservatives in supporting the war on terror in Iraq.

President Clinton nailed it on the head when he stated we needed regime change in Iraq due to an overwhelming amount of evidence supporting the fact that Iraq was one of the biggest, not only, but ONE OF the biggest supporters of terrorism and terrorism against the United States. Saddam himself admitted that AND the fact he had WMD’S.

Not going to debate the WMD’S but regardless it’s now after the fact and we either succeed or fail. If we fail mark my words the United States will NOT remain the United States nor a world super power in the decades to come. We will end up like something no one could imagine because terrorist will be crawling all over the place OR we will become a lot more closed down with personal rights and freedoms lost, more then any Patriot Act could ever cause.

That is not a scare tactic but what reality will be. It’s a matter of the vast majority of American’s growing up and acting like adults instead of a bunch of children with attention deficient syndrome, which is a bunch of crap but that’s for another debate. We need to man up in this country and put all the cry babies and wussies to the side to deal with the issue of terrorism they way it has to be dealt with which is to slaughter as many of them as possible and possibly drop a few nukes in countries that support them regardless of how many “innocent” victims are killed in the process.

When you trying to kill coc*roaches you don’t do it buy smashing one at a time you use them smoke bombs and sometimes somebody forgets the family kitty in the process, oops…

The world is split in three at the moment. Those who are trying to defeat the terrorist, those who are supporting the terrorist and the those who are scared to death and have let the terrorist win them over by terrifying them. Until the part of the world that supports terrorist and terrorism has some major blows thrown on them, like nukes, the world will not believe the small majority who are trying to fight the terrorist are serious. The United States isn’t perceived as being serious because too many whinny and selfish citizens who are ONLY concerned with themselves wish and PRAY for our country to fail and to see hundreds of thousands of our military slaughtered by terrorist…

So YES a “true” conservative does indeed support the war on terror in Iraq because we are looking out for our countries best interest as well as OUR children and their children’s future…

 

One of you should be president and have a f150online cabinet. Sounds like you guys have the world figured out!

 

It’s truly not that hard to figure it out. There are two basic truths to survivability and success:

“Only the strong survive”

“Do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do”

Live by those two basic principles and everything else is easy to implement and support…

 

I wouldn't have voted for the health care billthey way it was either. however, that being said, many peole claim that caring for our own children---citizens of the US---is too expensive; yet we, at the drop of a hat, will send hundreds of millions of $$$ to foreign countries hit by sunamis, typhoons earthquakes, etc.

My point is this---I believe that our children are our finest natural resource as well as our country's future. Why do we insist---without arguing---on helping other country's kids and we say we will not spend a dime on our own? Too expensive? Blame the parents---that is fine---but the kids are blameless; it is not ther fault. But again, how much "aid" is sent to other countries freely when we could have been helping our own?

The failed health care bill was lousy, I admit that, but there are other options.

Tim C.

 

That is an outstanding point…

I would agree with your thoughts that we shouldn’t be sending millions of dollars to other countries for just any reason. However I do support sending money for natural disasters. I think people who become victims of natural disasters are worthy of MY money regardless of where they are at.

I don’t think it’s a fair statement to say we don’t spend a dime on our own children in this country because we spend billions upon billions supporting our children and much of that money for the wrong reasons. Money for public schools that turn out some of the most uneducated children in the world, money for children to go to emergency rooms with runny noses, money for children to get free braces, all due to welfare. Many of our children have an opportunity to eat better then many middle class children whose parents break their backs trying to support them. Children with parents on welfare could, if many of their parents were not drinking and doing drugs, could eat steak every night and mommy would still have food stamps left over.

If people really want to help our children, or insure thousands more are covered for medical, they should INSIST that any child on welfare be treated like any other child with medical coverage, pay the same cost for doctor visits and if they end up in an emergency room and it’s not an emergency then mommy get’s $500 taken out of her next check.

Those are immediate simple steps that can put more children under medical coverage as soon as possible but “it don’t feel good” for many people to make it happen…

So, I don’t want my money going too little Johnny’s mommy to blow on subs to eat while watching Oprah and then taking little Johnny to the emergency room for a runny nose…

While that may be bad for little Johnny it’s neither my fault nor problem. Its little Johnny’s mommy’s fault for not having accountability or responsibility and other irresponsible American’s for allowing it to happen…

 

I think I was the one who said a true conservative can't support the war\ and I still believe that.

I wonder which of the three groups I fall in. Let's see I'd like to see the terroists defeated, I don't support them, and I sure ain't scared of them. I guess I'm in group one.

I still think Iraq was a mistake. It wasn't about terrorism, it wasn't about WMDs, it was about a policy designed to dominate and control the middle east for years to come. We rolled out of Afghanistan without OBL. The Taliban are regrouping and we are no safer today than we were 6 years ago.

If Iraq is the right way to go, declare war, the Constitutional way, and then go win the war. We can't win this war. The Iraqis fight for their survivial and we side fights for politics.


6 years later we haven't sealed the borders or destroyed the architects of 9/11.

I' love this thread. Honest friendly debate without the name calling.

 

You weak minded liberal *****...

 

If you need any proof why liberals should be kept out of power look at Canada.

They were in power for the majority of the last 30 years. This country became a complete mess under them. Their great social experiments in crime, poverty and health care have all failed miserably and have made things almost to bad to fix.

Our taxes are insanely high, we have no rights to defend ourselves, our family, fellow citizens or our property. If some POS was to kick in my back door right now and walk to my living room pick up my TV and start walking out with it by law I cant touch him. If I was to drop the low life I would be going down for murder. This kind of thinking by law makers has created the perfect environment for criminals to flourish, they have no reason to fear the victim defending themselves.

The gun control liberals in the States keep screaming for has accomplished nothing but create new fees for and headaches for law abiding citizens. Gang related shootings have not declined and neither has the illegal trafficking of guns. Handguns are all but banned, and carrying is 100% prohibited. Anyone wanna guess how many of these illegally imported guns from Asia were registered and the criminals licensed?

They like to brag about how their economic policies or basically over spend and tax more to cover it has created a strong economy with new jobs. What they fail to mention is how many of these jobs are part time and below the poverty line.

The Trudeau and Chretian/Martin liberal governments gutted the military and many other essential programs like the RCMP and dictated to the provinces how and what they would sell natural resources for (which falls under provincial jurisdiction, just like guns do as private property, but liberals dont have to obey the rules it seems) and now poverty is high, health care is falling apart and our education system is getting worse and worse. A huge side effect of all this is our military personnel were forced to use antiquated and often unsafe equipment and the RCMP is facing a crippling staffing shortage in the years ahead. All the money they though could be saved by cuts is costing even more now just to get back to the same levels.

And if you wonder just how far these social experiments in criminal justice have gone, a repeat sex offender labelled as dangerous can be back on the streets after serving only three years. Also Corrections Officers (prison guards) are not permitted to carry firearms while in duty since it breeds an atmosphere of mistrust.

I could go on and on with examples, but this is why extreme left wingers should be kept the hell outta positions of power.

 

Fighting a PC war to try and keep those cry baby candy asses in the media and hippie anti-war idiots from screaming is the reason Iraq hasnt been won. Seriously if this war had been fought like WW2 with the destruction of the enemy first then reconstruction it would have been over long ago. Had the full might of the US military been brought in, naval, air, and land forces the insurgents would have been crushed. Let the B-52s, cruise missiles, and Abrams loose, if it so much as gives you a dirty look, blast it from existence.

No war has ever been won with the total destruction of the enemy, nor by holding hands and talking things out. They are won by destroying the enemy's will to fight. Remember, these taliban and al-quaida ****tards my be fanatics, but so were the ****'s and even the hardliners gave up in the face of overwhelming force.

 

one of the problems in a free market 'democracy' is the fact that one can do orders of magnitude better financially in the private sector


who wants to be president when he/she could be ceo of microsoft?