Well before you shine a light on anything I would suggest reading the law book and getting the correct facts on the case.

1.) The prior incident at an off campus party. It was not a gang of white kids all beating up on 1 black boy. It might have been a 2 on 1 or something to that effect but the black boy was a willing and more importantly aware combatant. One of the white boys was charged and convicted of a misdemeanor charge, which given the circumstances was the only thing he could be charged with.

2.) Even if the kid who got beat was talking ****, that is still not any justification for knocking someone unconcious and then once unconcious you and 5 buddies begin to stomp and kick him. Now had the kid punched him and he got knocked out and it was over, thats one thing. Had the kid gotten hit and turned around and began to defend himself that something else. I will even go as far as to say if he had gotten hit turned around and began to defend himself THEN it turned into a 3 on 1 or even 4 on 1, you get what you have coming. The fact that he was UNCONCIOUS before the beating even started that is just plain wrong.

3.) The fact that he was not seriously injured has no bearing on the charges. These boys had the mens rea to inflict grievous bodily harm which in most cases is enough to classify as attempted murder, by way of a sustained physical attack.

4.) The earlier incident with the shotgun, that is merely gossip being passed around. No police report or complaint was ever filled. BTW the story goes a good old boy pulled a fully loaded pump on 3 black minors. They managed to wrestle the shotgun from him, however no shots were fired, no one called the police.

It really does not matter how you slice it or dice it what these kids did to an unconcious person is un excuseable and they should be punished for it to the maximum extent of the law. While the penalties they are facing may seem a bit steep you have to realize the main reason why the charges are so steep. It has nothing to do with white/black it has to do with attacking an UNCONCIOUS person, unable to defend themselves in any way. I would be saying the SAME thing had it been on the other shoe as well. I believe anyone who would willing beat or attack a person un able to defend themselves to be the lowest form of a coward.

While I do not live or go to Jena, I am from New Orleans so I do see my fair share of how things work in this state.

 

I agree with everything you said.... well put

 

I'll second that. Pretty much sums the whole thing up just about the best way you can.

 

So well written this guy is. I agree with you.

 

where were these people when the guy got dragged over in southeast texas?????????

guess they see better odds here?

 

Racism will never go away there is too much money being made selling it. Jackson, Sharpton, Duke etc. are all anything but poor. Until we stop buying their product (racism) it will always be for sale.

 

I can honestly say that no mater what... there will lawys be racism and discremination.... let me explain.

Growing up, this was a white community, no doubts about it. Populations was about 13,000 and of that 12,993 were white. No joke, no exaturation.
Everyone knew all the 2 black families by name and knew each person in each family by name. There were a few white morons that would do or say something offensive, but ussually there were a few thousand white people there to defend. These 2 families where productive members of our society, granted they didnt hold any seats in the goverment, but they were active in the community.

I say that to demonstrate that we did not have the resources required to have a white vs back issue of any kind....... However the school was devided into 3 main groups.

Preps/Jocks
Hicks
Skaters

Preps/Jocks and Hicks got along ussually. The skaters were absolutely hated by both. I cant tell you the exact role I played, becasue it would be to long. I will say I was ignorant and am not innocent.

Tension built between the Preps/Jocks/Hicks and the skaters, smack was talked on both sides (Many of the Preps/Jocks/Hicks made tshirts that read (SK8-N-Die!, mocking the "Sk8 or Die" slogan of the skaters of the time).
There was a few small little 1 on 1 fights here and there and more smack... Until one fatful morning before school, something happened and it exploded in the Commons Area, it literllay broke out just as I stepped in the door. It was an all out brawl, anything you could get your hands on became a weapon. There was not enough faculty to break it up and was way to dangerous for any of them to get in and even try to gain order again. Luckily it was over before the cops arrived. Unfortunatly many lost teeth, various broken bones, several unconsious, including the few staff that did try to break it up, it was an absolute blood bath.

It was absolutely racial in nature except instead of the color of skin, since we didnt have skin color to be prejudice against, it was a life style........

As long as there is a difference of any kind, then there will be conflict.

So even if "per say" one race, becomes ***** and gains enough power to kick all other races outside of the borders of the US, even then, there will stiil be prejudice crimes inside these borders. Only way to prevent it, would be to make everyone a drone, with no individuality, no original ideas everyone doing the same thing, dressed the same ways, and thinking 100% the same way.

Never going to happen anywhere in the world.......

 

i fully expect sharpton,jackson and crew to pay a visit to my fare state as soon as they wrap things up down in LA

 

Jasper, Tx:

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why would a black kid in a racist community try and crash a party that is all whites? I wouldn't try to crash a party where a bunch of brotha's...... unless I wanted to get my *** beat

 

You internet attorneys are a riot. First of all, this may be "news" now, but I've been following this case since it was E-mailed to me in May/June. I know the details just as well as anyone else not living in Jena. I know them far better than most, as is apparent from reading prior posts.

I assume you have read "the law" book? What's your point? This white kid was no innocent victim. He talked sh*t, and got his *** handed to him. He wasn't "selected" he initiated. Who knew he was susceptible to a swift knockout? I saw his post-azz-whipping pic. Let me tell you, he was looking pretty darn good for someone who took a "life threatening beating", the black eye being the only visible damage. I've seen guys stay awake for the fight, come away looking worse than that.

In a school that's 90% white, for no one to come to his aid, tells me the folks around him knew he was wrong. He got his **** whipped at lunch, in the cafeteria, by 14 - 16 year olds. If they lured him to some secluded area, then whipped his ****, I'd say that was malicious. But, in this case- the azzwhipping had "impromptu" written all over it.

Circumstances? So, azz-whippings occuring off campus are less traumatic than on campus azz-whippings? Off campus altercations don't deserve prosecution? Just so you'll know, there were at least 3 white boys beating the black kid prior to this act, their pics were on CNN today. 3:1, or 6:1- wrong is wrong. Where's your desire to see justice where the white boys are concerned? Why is a misdemeanor fine for them, but not the blacks?

I never said they were "right" to kick his azz. But, just because they were wrong doesn't mean you put teenaged kids in jail for 20 - 80 years. And, law or no law, you can talk your way into an azz-whipping. Today, young America is full of candy-*** men that want to say stuff, then quote the constitution or state law. If you keep your hands and opinions to yourself, you're unlikely to catch an azz whipping.

It should. In fact, others must agree because the DA may have to testify before congress, to explain his actions. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

I've had my azz whipped by 26 men hitting me at one time. Coach called it "the bull ring". But seriously, we all have the "means" to inflict injury upon another person. How about charging them for what they did do (black eye) rather than what they could have done (beat him to death).

So, because no charges were filed, it didn't happen???Charges may not have been filed, but this uncident is well known in the area. Once again, this is not "new news", this has been going on for quite some time.

People don't tell everything. I've had guns pulled on me twice. Once by a drunk at a football game, (I was a kid then, circa 1980) once by a cop (1992). I never filed any reports or complaints- or stated anything officially, well, until now.

 

I agree, to a certain extent. However, this kid wasn't asleep when the **** whipping began. The **** whipping put him to sleep, and continued for a little while afterwards.

Like PSS said, people find a way to create differences. I've never participated in a Class-A beat down of another person, but I have seen my roomate come home covered in the blood of a fellow soldier he tried to help, after he (the other guy) was beaten to the point of his eyeball being dislodged/via a kick from a pointed toe boot, from the socket. We were all "soldiers", but in this case, that guy came from another barracks talking sh*t about our post. It was 2 -vs- 2 when the sh*t talking began, and by the time they got outside, it was 2 -vs- 30, they both ran, one fell the other got away, but the one who fell was beaten severely, to the point of losing an eye if memory serves.

This same BS allowed a young man to be beaten to death outside a night club in Dallas after a football game, circa 2005... The mob mentality. This is why I say the kids (the black boy, and the white boy) were both lucky to get away with minor bruises.

I'm from Tensas Parish, and I know how "small town" Louisiana thinks. I'm very aware of how "superior" white folks with more than 2 dollars to rub together, seem to feel they are to blacks (equally poor, or affluent) in that area. Like USA today said, the Civi Rights movement didn't make it everywhere. Looking back, I still recall young white men calling older black men "boy" and sh*t like that. I grew up seeing that sh*t. Right or wrong, people are only going to get pushed so far.

You guys won't see that because you don't want to look at both sides. But, pretending there's only one side to a coin, does not make it so.

Look at both sides.

 

Normally, I'm all for trying kids as adults, and removing the problem kids from society.

But, in the case, the circumstances were extreme (racial tension, whites-only tree, DA threatening to make their lives "disappear" with a pen stroke, if they made a fuss about the nooses, the nooses, etc..), and in my opinion- must be acounted for before judgement.

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Fines: Fine.

Juvenile detention (As long as the similiarly guilty whites go too): Fine

Prison: I have a problem with that.

 

I fully agree that if he was running his mouth he deserved an azz whipping, however the circumstances involved here i.e. him already being unconcious before the beating took place, change the nature of it all together. You can not honestly sit there and tell me that these boys were just wanting to give him a black eye. They had EVERY intention of doing serious damage to this kid, and intent outweighs the results by a big margin.

I never said that off campus incidents were any less serious. I simply stated the facts that there was an off campus fight, a white kid was charged with the crime. The difference is that 3 white guys on 1 CONCIOUS and able to [/B]DEFEND[/B] himself person, vs. 6 people stomping and kicking on someone while they are unconcious can't compare apples to oranges here no matter how hard you try they will never taste the same.

"Law or no law" yeah that works considering you better think hard before you act because eventually the law, as it is written, is what you are going to be facing. He called me a name so I stomped his face in, oh well in that case since you are such a grown man and can't take being called a name you are free to go.

I did not agree with the attempted murder charges, Aggrivated battery is exactly what they did so the charges do fit the crime. I also agree that you can talk your way into an azz whipping however maybe I am from a different time but I feel a fight should be two people both willing and able, hitting someone from behind is a coward move, hitting someone from behind, knocking them out, then continuing to beat them, thats some serious ******* ***** right there.

You can't honestly think comparing the two is at all justification. What if the coach had given you a tranquilizer in the locker room, drug you out on to the field then let everyone take turns kicking you??

As for charging them for what they did, thats not the way the law works. The law is based on intent, they intended to do alot worse than they did, not anyones fault but their own that the best they could do was a black eye. I guess next time someone shoots at someone and misses they should just be charged with discharging a firearm rather than attempted murder considering they set out to kill someone but because of lack of skill missed. Or better yet lets tell them that it is ok to beat up an unconcious person as long as you don't harm them too bad we won't make you pay for your own stupidity. Let them keep doing it until one day it goes a bit too far and they do kill someone.

 

All I am saying is that it is heresay, there is no proof. Anyone at any time could say that someone did something to them without proof and it means nothing. I could tell you right now that I had someone pull an RPG on me, but without proof who is going to believe it, and for that matter why should they. Also how bad *** would I seem around my friends if I said someone pulled a pump on me and I wrestled it away from him? Again you are looking at kids who do, will, and can very well make up lies to put themselves in a good light with their peer group.

The problem with this case is everyone wants to bring up past incidents that have no bearing on this crime. If I went around and knocked out every person in this world that ever looked at me the wrong way or talked ***** to me then I would expect to be in prison as well.

Racism, in its truest form, still exists in America for three reasons, because there is money to be made from it. Look at the big "Civil Rights" activist, how many of them have a net worth of over a million, more than likely you would be hard pressed to find any of them that are only worth a million. You have hard headed people who generation after generation were rasied to not like people different than themselves, and lastly becuase there are people who benifit by using race as a crutch for everythign that does not go their way. Not likeing someone because they are different from you like the jocks not liking the skaters, thats not racist or racism that is just a difference of opinion.

I will be 100% honest here as I can no longer bear to hold my tongue. Why is it that whenever a person of color gets into trouble it is the white mans fault?? I guess we enduced so much trauma during slavery and the civil rights movement of the 60's that every person of color for all eternity sould be given slack based on that fact alone. QUIT USING YOUR COLOR AS A F U C K I N G crutch. Black america is at no dis advantage these days, if anything they have the upper hand being the "so called" minority. Extra points on certian govt test here, jobs that are available even though someone else is more qualified but the quotas are in place, special rate govt loans to open business' that are available to minorities, the list goes on and on. ANYONE who works hard enough can make anything of themselves in this country, money and happiness are both color blind, if you can't obtain it for yourself it is not racism, it is lack of effort so rather than point your finger at the nearest white man go look in the mirror.