Craziest cop video! I’ve seen in a while!
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
OK, couldn't make it through the entire vid. Yeah, the cop was a power tripping **** and was out of line, making up charges, looking for an altercation, etc...
But I give the young man some blame, too. He needs to grow up and understand that when a cop knocks on your window in the middle of the night, he's already on an adrenaline rush before he even speaks to you. Afterall, you could be armed and dangerous. The cop has to prepare himself for that possibility.
Maybe if he's an a'hole, when he's on his adrenaline rush the cop will give you a small ration of crap you don't deserve. Big deal - you can whine to your friends about it later. By having attitude, you are perpetuating the possibility that you are a threat to him. He's an adrenaline fueled man with a gun in the middle of the night, and he's trained to neutralize threats. And maybe he's just had a really bad day.
You may be in the right, but just how much do you want to argue with an opponent like that? If you got any brains at all, you nod your head and say 'Yes Sir' alot. Unless you like bruises, legal bills and nights in jail.
But I give the young man some blame, too. He needs to grow up and understand that when a cop knocks on your window in the middle of the night, he's already on an adrenaline rush before he even speaks to you. Afterall, you could be armed and dangerous. The cop has to prepare himself for that possibility.
Maybe if he's an a'hole, when he's on his adrenaline rush the cop will give you a small ration of crap you don't deserve. Big deal - you can whine to your friends about it later. By having attitude, you are perpetuating the possibility that you are a threat to him. He's an adrenaline fueled man with a gun in the middle of the night, and he's trained to neutralize threats. And maybe he's just had a really bad day.
You may be in the right, but just how much do you want to argue with an opponent like that? If you got any brains at all, you nod your head and say 'Yes Sir' alot. Unless you like bruises, legal bills and nights in jail.
I know what your saying, and I agree.
Respect is a two way street though.
If after a few minutes of being respectful, the officer is still irrational, then I start asking why..... if he continues... Then I'd tell him we are done! For the better of your own blood pressure, Either arrest me, write me a tiicket and we'll let the judge and maybe, if needed, a jury decide, or you should let me go.
Just because they have a badge, does not mean they are always rational, and does not mean they are always professinal either, they are humans too, we all have our moments. I personally have several moments each day where I step out of charecter momentarily....
I had a run in with a park ranger a few weeks ago, zaairman was there, he can vefiy. He had pulled my wife over for not haveing a license plate on my jet ski trailer that she was pulling. Zairman, who was stopped behind my wife and the cop, I pulled up with my boat behind me, pulled behind Zair and I walked up. This Ranger was on a power trip and was dead set on writing someone a ticket. One of the first things he even asked me who I wanted him to write the ticket to, me or her. He was not rational at all. It was up to me to be rational, diplomatic and diffuse teh sitautaion. I was defiantly in the wrong, I should have had the plate on the trailer and would have taken teh ticket, but instead wit ha little respect and discusing all of our options we both had. He eventually decided it was "to hot" to write a ticket and wished us a good day.
I could have punked up, only difference would have been no joking and I'd would up with a ticket and had to pay a fine....
Instead I maned up, and as a result, we wound up shaking hands and was making jokes. No tickets, no fines, no courts.
Was it my job to be the rational one? NO
Was it my duty to be the rational one? NO
Was it my right to be the rational one? ABSO-FOOKIN-LUTELY
Was it my right to be a punk if I'd wanted? ABSO-FOKKIN-LUTELY as well.
Given the option of those two rights.... darn skippy I'm taking the first one. Fastest, easiest and cheapest way out and I win all around!
That is the difference between the men and the boys.
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Sep 13, 2007 at 09:45 PM.
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Just an update....
ST. GEORGE, Mo. — A suburban St. Louis police officer whose berating of a motorist was captured on video has lost his job.
Aldermen in the tiny town St. George voted 5-0 to fire Sgt. James Kuehnlein. The vote occurred Monday in a session closed to the public. Notice of the firing was posted Wednesday at City Hall.
Motorist Brett Darrow, 20, had a video recorder inside his car. He was at a commuter lot near Interstate 55 in the early hours of Sept. 7 when the officer approached the car.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein is heard taunting and threatening Darrow, sometimes shouting and using profanity.
Darrow had met with Police Chief Scott Uhrig after the incident to ask that Kuehnlein be fired.
"It's what I wanted the whole time," Darrow told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "The conduct was not forgivable."
Uhrig said he recommended that aldermen fire Kuehnlein based both on his language in the tape and because he violated department policy. That's because Kuehnlein should have been taping the encounter himself with his police car's camera.
No such footage could be found, though the camera is functional, Uhrig said.
The monthly board of aldermen meeting Thursday night was moved to a community center to accommodate the overflow crowd. About 30 people showed up, some defending their town and saying they were proud of their police force.
"This city needs to keep its own police department," said Mike Mosier, a former St. Louis police officer who has lived in St. George for 42 years.
But Alderman Carmen Wilkerson said she fielded dozens of calls from residents in recent days. She said many were from residents who said they were humiliated and embarrassed by the incident.
Aldermen said they planned to review how officers are hired and said the city attorney had looked into the cost of having St. Louis County patrol the city.
Kuehnlein's attorney, Travis L. Noble, said the officer received a letter Thursday detailing the reasons for his firing. Noble said he would review the letter with his client before deciding on a course of action.
ST. GEORGE, Mo. — A suburban St. Louis police officer whose berating of a motorist was captured on video has lost his job.
Aldermen in the tiny town St. George voted 5-0 to fire Sgt. James Kuehnlein. The vote occurred Monday in a session closed to the public. Notice of the firing was posted Wednesday at City Hall.
Motorist Brett Darrow, 20, had a video recorder inside his car. He was at a commuter lot near Interstate 55 in the early hours of Sept. 7 when the officer approached the car.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein is heard taunting and threatening Darrow, sometimes shouting and using profanity.
Darrow had met with Police Chief Scott Uhrig after the incident to ask that Kuehnlein be fired.
"It's what I wanted the whole time," Darrow told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "The conduct was not forgivable."
Uhrig said he recommended that aldermen fire Kuehnlein based both on his language in the tape and because he violated department policy. That's because Kuehnlein should have been taping the encounter himself with his police car's camera.
No such footage could be found, though the camera is functional, Uhrig said.
The monthly board of aldermen meeting Thursday night was moved to a community center to accommodate the overflow crowd. About 30 people showed up, some defending their town and saying they were proud of their police force.
"This city needs to keep its own police department," said Mike Mosier, a former St. Louis police officer who has lived in St. George for 42 years.
But Alderman Carmen Wilkerson said she fielded dozens of calls from residents in recent days. She said many were from residents who said they were humiliated and embarrassed by the incident.
Aldermen said they planned to review how officers are hired and said the city attorney had looked into the cost of having St. Louis County patrol the city.
Kuehnlein's attorney, Travis L. Noble, said the officer received a letter Thursday detailing the reasons for his firing. Noble said he would review the letter with his client before deciding on a course of action.
