got sort of a same situation going on here in Dallas. It's been raining almost for 3 whole months everyday here...well the creeks are flooding, and last night a 13 year old boy got swept away at a creek by his house. The paramedics tried to get him a rope so they could pull him in, but he slipped and went down the river and drowned. Well, now the mom wants to sue the city because they could have saved her boy. They didnt jump into the water.

The boys father jumped to try to save the boy, but couldnt get to him because of the raging water...but it's the cities fault she let her son go down to a creek while it was raining to play????

 

Hmmm... Situation's like this, Is the exact reason we have so many lawyers, and rules, regulations. Not the city's fault the parents are dumbass's. So the dad couldnt reach his son, but the city workers could have? Im all about exhausting all possible solutions to saving someone's life, BUT I have a wife, and two children to come home to myself. Not my responsibility to play "rambo" and put my own *** way out on the line to save someone. Granted this is a child and I would have done EVERYTHING within my power to save his life. The parents should shoulder the blame on this. Should the city police look into child neglect?

On the other hand, I am saddend by the unfortunate event. No child should loose their life in that manner.

I also feel bad for the parents as well, tragic accident that like most things could have been prevented with a little common sense!

 

Bringing this one back up - we just had a crowd accident up here in DeKalb.........

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...cal&id=5555313

 

I just read this story [dunno how I didn't see it B4] and I wish I hadn't of.

It's one of the saddest things I've read.

Just viewed the clip on YouTube and it's chilling.

Anyway...

 

Follow up -

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...006003,00.html

 

Well it was pretty reckless.

 

You're being kind.

 

This story is very sad but I can't believe they are going to put six counts of homicide on him. It was a mistake. They were all voluntarily there, no one forced them there. They all should of known all sorts of things can happen around race cars etc. Not to mention how biased that article is that Grubrunner posted. I love how they added in at the end he was arrested for driving under the influence. However none was found to be in his system at the scene of the accident. The second part was a good piece of information but we didn't need to know about his previous DUI. Just another way for the news to portray him as some evil, cruel killer.

I broke my back racing motocross along with countless other injuries from the accident and previous accidents. I had been riding for 13 years and had been racing 11 years prior to that accident. I could of sued the track and won easily but I didn't because I knew the risks of motorsports. Not to mention I have better morals than those scum who sue at the drop of a hat. It makes me so disgusted. The track had prepped the faces and landings of all the jumps with concrete so they didn't have to maintain them. Covered them up with a little dirt. Well, falling from 30 ft onto concrete on both of your feet isn't too pretty. Stuff like this makes me realize we live in such a sad world ...

No he's just wearing his armadillo helmet again while he's posting. It's a habit of his lately.

 

Maybe you would like to expound on some of these "other injuries" that you have sustained? Because it is evident that some of these aforementioned injuries may have had an impact on your cognitive functions. Or perhaps there was a certain, shall we say, lack of mental acuity long before these injuries took place?

I digress, let us now return to the subject at hand.

We can assume that they, the spectators, would consist of children and teenagers as well as adults. It is also likely that many of the children and teenagers may not have been chaperoned by adults. I believe it is unlikely that anyone was warned, that what was to take place, could potentially be quite dangerous and that there were few if any safety precautions. We can therefore say that many of the spectators in fact did not know that they were being put into a dangerous situation.

I do not believe that the blame can be placed upon the spectators. No I submit the guilty party here is the professional race car driver who knew what his car was capable of should anything go awry. And it is not hard to imagine something going awry that would then send the car off the road and into the spectators. In addition to the driver the event organizers who setup the burnout contest are also complicit in the subsequent disaster.

 

People who don't have much to say or anything good in an argument resort to insults and name calling because a lack of intelligence. Regardless, "I digress let us now return to the subject at hand".

So you're going to tell me that these people didn't realize there is a risk in attending a motorsport event? I guess these people might of had some brain injuries or they might wear armadillo helmets like someone we know on this forum. If you really want to get technical, I don't blame the crowd. I don't blame the driver. I really don't blame anyone. Mistakes happen, people aren't perfect but to hold someone accountable for 6 counts of homicide is a little harsh. I thought there was a malfunction with the vehicle so wouldn't it be technically involuntary vehicular manslaughter? Anyways, if you want someone to blame because you simply need a cope out, need a scapegoat, need money, etc how about this? The event had to be approved by the city, correct? The city should of researched the potential dangers of this particular motorsport event before approving the event as well as setting up safety precautions. If children weren't being chaperoned by their parents or an adult, than their parents can blame themselves but I wouldn't. It was an accident, plain and simple. Grow up and stop living in your little twisted world.

 

What was that you were saying about insulting people?

 

I figured you'd have an awesome response. Regardless that's not an insult unless you take it as one. I'm not one for internet pissing matches anymore so feel free to express yourself as you like. It just proves how much of a ... oh nevermind, I wouldn't want to insult you.

 

I think he showed incredibly poor judgment but it was not an intentional act. A tough call and a bad deal for all involved.

 

I think you both present very valid points to the table. Kudos to you both.

My thoughts are this: I think he showed inconceivable irresponsibility and preposterousness for what he did, where he did it and under the circumstances.

This could have been easily avoided with a little sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, read: common sense.

Ultimately, at the day's end, someone, always, has to be held accountable for their actions. Nobody held a gun to his head. He could have quite easily used better judgement and refused to do what he did under the circumstances.

This is the epitome of a tragedy and, quite simply, something that could have easliy have been avoided.

 

He was participating in a burn out contest hosted by an organized event.

The stretch of road he did it on was exactly were he was suppose to be doing it, and there were plenty of others that went before him.

Financial liability is one thing, But criminal charges?????


I think the people who dropped the ball on this were the event planners. Telling the participants that they are responsible for how the event is set up is rediculous. Thats like telling the athletes in the olympics that they are responsible for security.