New Laptop . . .
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From: Bismarck, ND
Just ordered this baby last week.... with about a grand worth of upgrades of course.
It will be my first gateway. My dad uses one for work and loves it, so I figured it would be worth a try.
It will be my first gateway. My dad uses one for work and loves it, so I figured it would be worth a try.
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From: Auburn, Alabama
I've had a HP,Dell, and gateway. i now have a Mac powerbook G4 and is with out a doubt the best built "computer and software" wise computer by a long shot. Its very strong and very easy to use especially w/ the hot corner functions and many more user friendly stuff. Now just waiting on the Leopard to come out
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From: Cypress, TX
Originally Posted by lrhogfan
Tell me, what is so great about a thinkpad?
I don't know what is so great but I got one from work and I use it everyday. It seems to work pretty well. I have only had it 3 months and it seems to be fine. I personally have always had desktops, and i now have a Dell Desktop that I use at home. But now I can sit on the couch and watch ESPN and play on the internet at the same time! Laptops are fun!
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From: Central NJ
Kobi,
Just got my first Mac, Macbook Pro. The wife and I absolutely love this machine. If it was not for work using Windows based software, I would never go back. I know I could load Windows on this Mac but I haven't done this yet, I have a work laptop to run PC appplications so I may not need to.
The ease of use of the operating system was a big sell for us. My wife knows very liitle about computers and is using this machine like a pro now. Also the camera and printers hookup with no problems, no confilicts.
The downside is that the is not alot of software for Mac, my son hates that he can't play games on it.
My next Mac just may be the I Mac with the Leopard OS.
Just got my first Mac, Macbook Pro. The wife and I absolutely love this machine. If it was not for work using Windows based software, I would never go back. I know I could load Windows on this Mac but I haven't done this yet, I have a work laptop to run PC appplications so I may not need to.
The ease of use of the operating system was a big sell for us. My wife knows very liitle about computers and is using this machine like a pro now. Also the camera and printers hookup with no problems, no confilicts.
The downside is that the is not alot of software for Mac, my son hates that he can't play games on it.
My next Mac just may be the I Mac with the Leopard OS.
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From: Pikesville, MD
I love you Mac guys. I've run into so many Mac guys with enough system arrogance to fill the superdome.
I am still considering getting a Mac. I haven't bought anything yet. I think it is a nice machine with a solid operating system.
BUT.......
XP and Vista are sound and secure OSs too. My XP has NEVER crashed in years. Never been hacked and never had a virus.
Macs limit their hardware and their software, tightly control what is supported for it, that makes it easy to do QA. However, it has its fair share of serious security holes and exploits. Most Mac users fancy themselves as computer aficionados yet I would venture most don't have a clue what is really going on inside.
I'm not saying Macs aren't nice machines but the whole "MAC RULES WINDOWS SUCKS" thing gets a little old. Truth be told Linux guys are the same way. They scream about how secure Linux is yet will roll out a web server with a default installation of Linux (pick your flavor) and wonder why they get hacked in a few hours.
(Present company excused, I like ya guys but for those I don't it gets old and quick.)
I am still considering getting a Mac. I haven't bought anything yet. I think it is a nice machine with a solid operating system.
BUT.......
XP and Vista are sound and secure OSs too. My XP has NEVER crashed in years. Never been hacked and never had a virus.
Macs limit their hardware and their software, tightly control what is supported for it, that makes it easy to do QA. However, it has its fair share of serious security holes and exploits. Most Mac users fancy themselves as computer aficionados yet I would venture most don't have a clue what is really going on inside.
I'm not saying Macs aren't nice machines but the whole "MAC RULES WINDOWS SUCKS" thing gets a little old. Truth be told Linux guys are the same way. They scream about how secure Linux is yet will roll out a web server with a default installation of Linux (pick your flavor) and wonder why they get hacked in a few hours.
(Present company excused, I like ya guys but for those I don't it gets old and quick.)
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From: Joplin MO
Thinkpads are designed for road warriors - the only tougher laptops are Panasonic Toughbooks. The newer Thinkpads have a shock absorber system that shuts the hard drive down if you drop the laptop or jar it. If I were going to buy a new one right now it would be one of the T60's.
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From: Auburn, Alabama
Originally Posted by vader716
I love you Mac guys. I've run into so many Mac guys with enough system arrogance to fill the superdome.
I am still considering getting a Mac. I haven't bought anything yet. I think it is a nice machine with a solid operating system.
BUT.......
XP and Vista are sound and secure OSs too. My XP has NEVER crashed in years. Never been hacked and never had a virus.
Macs limit their hardware and their software, tightly control what is supported for it, that makes it easy to do QA. However, it has its fair share of serious security holes and exploits. Most Mac users fancy themselves as computer aficionados yet I would venture most don't have a clue what is really going on inside.
I'm not saying Macs aren't nice machines but the whole "MAC RULES WINDOWS SUCKS" thing gets a little old. Truth be told Linux guys are the same way. They scream about how secure Linux is yet will roll out a web server with a default installation of Linux (pick your flavor) and wonder why they get hacked in a few hours.
(Present company excused, I like ya guys but for those I don't it gets old and quick.)
I am still considering getting a Mac. I haven't bought anything yet. I think it is a nice machine with a solid operating system.
BUT.......
XP and Vista are sound and secure OSs too. My XP has NEVER crashed in years. Never been hacked and never had a virus.
Macs limit their hardware and their software, tightly control what is supported for it, that makes it easy to do QA. However, it has its fair share of serious security holes and exploits. Most Mac users fancy themselves as computer aficionados yet I would venture most don't have a clue what is really going on inside.
I'm not saying Macs aren't nice machines but the whole "MAC RULES WINDOWS SUCKS" thing gets a little old. Truth be told Linux guys are the same way. They scream about how secure Linux is yet will roll out a web server with a default installation of Linux (pick your flavor) and wonder why they get hacked in a few hours.
(Present company excused, I like ya guys but for those I don't it gets old and quick.)
I still like windows though. IMHO you would have to play with a Mac for at least 2 weeks to figure out all the shortcuts and etc. to give it a true comparison b/w any other program
And as far as VISTA goes 
That is almost an exact copy of the TIGER OS X mac program. Heres a good vid if you are in denial
its from a new york post writer. It will show you the vista's new additions compared to mac'shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNuq94Zg_8
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From: In a van down by the river
Originally Posted by kobiashi
In this forum, throughout the years, often times people ask for recommendations for a new laptop they are considering. This results in a debate over the build quality of Dell v. HP v. whatever. Invariably, I will add my take and suggest a Mac . . . not only because Macs are better and that the Mac OS rules in every possible way over Windoze, but also because it's two computers in one, so if you must run Windoze, you can do it on a Mac.
Well, my old PowerBook G4 took a hit that it was only able to partially recover from, so, it has been relegated to non mobile duties in my home office.
A moment of silence, and cheers for a great laptop that went above and beyond the call of duty.
Now, being one of the Mac faithful, I not only talk the talk, but I walk the walk, so of course my new baby had to be a Mac . . .
But which one? Do I get a MacBook Pro which is a full blown professional grade machine - or do I get a MacBook which, while missing some of the features of the MacBook Pro, is a more convenient size and looks cool in black . . .
then I remembered the new print ad from Apple:
and after seeing that, it was an easy choice . . . I got
.
Now in all seriousness, it's pretty impressive. It has an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2 GHz and runs the programs native to the Intel chip very nicely.
But the current version of Photoshop (CS2) runs in Rosetta (it's not native to the Intel chip), however, it still runs very, very well.
Plus, once I get everything settled on this machine I may install Windows and see how that goes. (The laptop work provided me is Windoze and it sucks) so I may also use this puppy for work.
Overall it gets a big thumbs up. It's a bit heavier than I expected, and the "chicklett" keyboard is taking some getting used to, but if you're looking for a laptop, I say:
Well, my old PowerBook G4 took a hit that it was only able to partially recover from, so, it has been relegated to non mobile duties in my home office.
A moment of silence, and cheers for a great laptop that went above and beyond the call of duty.
Now, being one of the Mac faithful, I not only talk the talk, but I walk the walk, so of course my new baby had to be a Mac . . .
But which one? Do I get a MacBook Pro which is a full blown professional grade machine - or do I get a MacBook which, while missing some of the features of the MacBook Pro, is a more convenient size and looks cool in black . . .
then I remembered the new print ad from Apple:
and after seeing that, it was an easy choice . . . I got
.Now in all seriousness, it's pretty impressive. It has an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2 GHz and runs the programs native to the Intel chip very nicely.
But the current version of Photoshop (CS2) runs in Rosetta (it's not native to the Intel chip), however, it still runs very, very well.
Plus, once I get everything settled on this machine I may install Windows and see how that goes. (The laptop work provided me is Windoze and it sucks) so I may also use this puppy for work.
Overall it gets a big thumbs up. It's a bit heavier than I expected, and the "chicklett" keyboard is taking some getting used to, but if you're looking for a laptop, I say:
I have a HP laptop for work and it's the biggest piece of junk. I'm currently having ten fits over problems with excel freezing while formatting spreadsheets heavily. That is why I'm typing on the forum. To give Excel time to unfreeze and let me work again.
Other then HP printers, I will never buy anything HP, just never had one that works reliably.
Duke
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I know macs are solid but so is XP.
No Virus or spyware programs are necessary because people aren't exploiting the Mac weaknesses but they do exist.
I like them both I just can't stand the typical Mac user's "holier than thou" attitude when most of them can't tell me the difference between SATA and SCSI.
No Virus or spyware programs are necessary because people aren't exploiting the Mac weaknesses but they do exist.
I like them both I just can't stand the typical Mac user's "holier than thou" attitude when most of them can't tell me the difference between SATA and SCSI.
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From: In a van down by the river
Originally Posted by vader716
I know macs are solid but so is XP.
No Virus or spyware programs are necessary because people aren't exploiting the Mac weaknesses but they do exist.
I like them both I just can't stand the typical Mac user's "holier than thou" attitude when most of them can't tell me the difference between SATA and SCSI.
No Virus or spyware programs are necessary because people aren't exploiting the Mac weaknesses but they do exist.
I like them both I just can't stand the typical Mac user's "holier than thou" attitude when most of them can't tell me the difference between SATA and SCSI.
The Japan marketing was a problem because culture in that country says that items for sale should be marketed and sold based on their own merit. Not as a function of putting a competitors product in your ad and bashing it.
It was and is a strong ethical issue for them and one that is actually good to follow. While I think the commercials are funny, I don't think that openly bashing a competitors product to make your product look good is appropriate. Rather market your product based on it's own merits.
Duke
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From: Cypress, TX
Originally Posted by glc
Thinkpads are designed for road warriors - the only tougher laptops are Panasonic Toughbooks. The newer Thinkpads have a shock absorber system that shuts the hard drive down if you drop the laptop or jar it. If I were going to buy a new one right now it would be one of the T60's.
Are the T60's really that good? I just got one from my work and I am on it all day and night and it seems to be pretty good. I didn't really notice a big difference on my T60 as opposed to my fiancee's Dell, although hers is more media friendly with the widescreen and media buttons. For work this one seems to be just fine.