Black Panthers & KKK what’s the difference?
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Hey, whatever happened to those white guys that dragged James Byrd to his death in Jasper, TX? That's one of the most heinous race crimes in US history, inflicted against a single person; yet- they went to court, and guess who showed up to show their support? That's right, the Klan. I'm sure they're in jail, as are the Beltway snipers... Blacks slide where whites couldn't... That's a new one on me...
Originally Posted by BigotHersh
If pointing out differences subconsciously puts me on one side; then if it makes you happy- you can say that Doctor Fill. I'd prefer no racial bigotry or one-upmanship, but we don't live in that world, yet.
What's my other subconscious choice? Side with the Klan because I have white sheets on my bed, and feel a mutual bond? Or, maybe the skin heads because I shave my head too? (Anyone got some black boots and red or white laces I can borrow?) Preferential understanding? Damn, that's funny. That actually made a booger fly out of my nose, trying to hold in my laugh. If there was any hidden meaning to that, it is to say the KLAN are all a bunch of COWARDS, always have been, always will be... Hmm, I guess I did have a hidden meaning~ thanks for bringing that out Doctor Fill!
What's my other subconscious choice? Side with the Klan because I have white sheets on my bed, and feel a mutual bond? Or, maybe the skin heads because I shave my head too? (Anyone got some black boots and red or white laces I can borrow?) Preferential understanding? Damn, that's funny. That actually made a booger fly out of my nose, trying to hold in my laugh. If there was any hidden meaning to that, it is to say the KLAN are all a bunch of COWARDS, always have been, always will be... Hmm, I guess I did have a hidden meaning~ thanks for bringing that out Doctor Fill!
Originally Posted by BigHersh
I have said clearly- that I take no sides. If you've been around here for a while, you know I'm not a sugar-coating, beat around the bush kinda guy. No hidden messages with me; except that one above...
Originally Posted by BigHersh
The original post asked what's the difference, I pointed out a few.
PS: I know how to spell Phil, Fill.
But, I'm allowing you guys to do what I said I wouldn't do, and that's be drawn into a debate, hopelessly out numbered, against those who are mostly on the other side of the fence; except for a few whom I've come to respect over the years for their ability to think outside of the box...
PS: I know how to spell Phil, Fill.
But, I'm allowing you guys to do what I said I wouldn't do, and that's be drawn into a debate, hopelessly out numbered, against those who are mostly on the other side of the fence; except for a few whom I've come to respect over the years for their ability to think outside of the box...
Originally Posted by USAFPATRIOT1
There is no difference between the Black Panthers and the KKK. They are both groups that preach hate and are "militant". If they want to be militant and carry guns, I got a job for them in todays military killing desert dwellers...
It's like comparing the Rev Al Sharpton to Rev. Jessie Jackson... both idiots use the title Reverend but preach hate and spread discord...What a couple of A-holes. I believe in One Nation Under GOD...Indivisible. All these idiots want to spread there own agenda...
It's like comparing the Rev Al Sharpton to Rev. Jessie Jackson... both idiots use the title Reverend but preach hate and spread discord...What a couple of A-holes. I believe in One Nation Under GOD...Indivisible. All these idiots want to spread there own agenda...
WoW.. Are you serious dude???? You really think jesse and Al are idiots....ok.ok.ok you really think jesse is an idiot who is trying to get his own agenda out.....
How soon we forget who negoitated the release of the NAVY P3 Crew in 2001, also was asked by GW to go to Iraq and negotiate the release of hostages.
hold on while i
ok I'm ready
* In 1983 Reverend Jackson traveled to Syria to secure the release of a captured American pilot, Navy Lt. Robert Goodman, who was being held by the Syrian government. Goodman had been shot down over Lebanon while on a mission to bomb Syrian positions in that country. After a dramatic personal appeal that Jackson made to Syrian President Hafez al-Assad, Goodman was released. Initially, the Reagan administration was skeptical about Jackson's trip to Syria. However, after Jackson secured Goodman's release, President Reagan welcomed both Jackson and Goodman at the White House on January 4, 1984 [1]. This helped to boost Jackson's popularity as an American patriot and served as a springboard for his 1984 presidential run.
* In June 1984, Jackson negotiated the release of 22 Americans being held in Cuba after an invitation by Cuban president Fidel Castro[2]
* In 1997 Jackson traveled to Kenya to meet with Kenyan President Daniel Arap Moi as President Clinton's special envoy for democracy to promote free and fair elections.
* In April 1999, during the Kosovo War, Jackson traveled to Belgrade to negotiate the release of three U.S. POW's captured on the Macedonia border while patrolling with a UN peacekeeping unit. He met with the then-Yugoslav president Slobodan Milošević who later agreed to release the three men[3].
* In August 2005 Jackson traveled to Venezuela to meet President Hugo Chavez, following controversial remarks by Televangelist Pat Robertson in which he implied that Chavez should be assassinated. Jackson condemned Robertson's remarks as immoral. After meeting with Chavez and addressing the Venezuelan Parliament, Jackson said there was no evidence that Venezuela posed a threat to the U.S. Jackson also met representatives from the Afro Venezuela and indigenous communities[4]
* According to an AP-AOL black voices poll in Feb 2006 Jackson was voted "the most important black leader" with 15% of the vote. He was followed by Condoleezza Rice with 11%
I will stop on that note...
In no way do I support the BP party or the Klan, but before you call someone an idiot and throw your opion out that he has his own agenda you should read about what that person has actually done.
You should research what Billy Gram told Jesse and MLK about civil rights..and then throw the term "so call rev" out ther
Last edited by swamp_runner; May 2, 2006 at 07:33 PM.
Maybe we should start a discussion about the similarities of the two
They both have African Americans for members???
http://www.kkklan.com/negroklan.htm
Im researching the KKK for this thread and I found this, I couldnt beleive it.
Im still like OMG.
I would be LMAO if it wasnt for the fact that this guy probably brought alot of greif and pain to those he was spying on....... Its just crazy.
To Dissolve the New Black Panther Party
http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm
the original BP members refuse to acknowledge this group because of their mission which differs from the original BP.
http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm
the original BP members refuse to acknowledge this group because of their mission which differs from the original BP.
Cant the BP sue the new BP for trade mark infringment????
They should, The new BP are going to ruin their rep.
Alot of people dont realise the difference between the two.
I dont agree with every thing the original BP say, but they arent hate driven.
They want repreations and they have a few goofy ideas that will never fly, like free health care for minorities and abolishment of penal incarceration.
There main goal how ever, is to put the Black community on equal footing with Whites.
They should, The new BP are going to ruin their rep.
Alot of people dont realise the difference between the two.
I dont agree with every thing the original BP say, but they arent hate driven.
They want repreations and they have a few goofy ideas that will never fly, like free health care for minorities and abolishment of penal incarceration.
There main goal how ever, is to put the Black community on equal footing with Whites.
Originally Posted by Podunk
Cant the BP sue the new BP for trade mark infringment????
They should, The new BP are going to ruin their rep.
Alot of people dont realise the difference between the two.
I dont agree with every thing the original BP say, but they arent hate driven.
They want repreations and they have a few goofy ideas that will never fly, like free health care for minorities and abolishment of penal incarceration.
There main goal how ever, is to put the Black community on equal footing with Whites.
They should, The new BP are going to ruin their rep.
Alot of people dont realise the difference between the two.
I dont agree with every thing the original BP say, but they arent hate driven.
They want repreations and they have a few goofy ideas that will never fly, like free health care for minorities and abolishment of penal incarceration.
There main goal how ever, is to put the Black community on equal footing with Whites.
Maybe I'm misguided, but aren't they on the same footing now? If they want to be, that is. Look at BigHersh. Doesn't fit the stereotype, now does he? Cultures are too diverse with both poor black and white folks. I've known both blacks and whites that have picked themselves up from the bootstraps. So someone please educate me on where the big step is for anyone these days.
Originally Posted by Podunk
Cant the BP sue the new BP for trade mark infringment????
They should, The new BP are going to ruin their rep.
Alot of people dont realise the difference between the two.
I dont agree with every thing the original BP say, but they arent hate driven.
They want repreations and they have a few goofy ideas that will never fly, like free health care for minorities and abolishment of penal incarceration.
There main goal how ever, is to put the Black community on equal footing with Whites.
They should, The new BP are going to ruin their rep.
Alot of people dont realise the difference between the two.
I dont agree with every thing the original BP say, but they arent hate driven.
They want repreations and they have a few goofy ideas that will never fly, like free health care for minorities and abolishment of penal incarceration.
There main goal how ever, is to put the Black community on equal footing with Whites.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
I never expected such bulls**t to come from 01XLTSport though; a guy that, until today, I thought could see the forest and the trees. That has surprised me, but, for the rest of you guys...
I am surprised you would consider my original post BS because there has been many times I have spoke out about racist groups such as the KKK, Skinheads and other terrorist white lead groups.
In my opinion the way the new Black Panthers carry themselves, talk and act they too are a racist terrorist group and deserve to be called such.
Now, I will agree the KKK has been around a very long time and did very horrible “terrorist” things, but racist is racist it don’t matter if the group is all black, all white, or all any other race.
I don’t use the word terrorist lightly, especially when applied to the KKK and Skinheads who are the same race as I am.
My originally post is not and neither should any of this thread be about “black” people and “white” people, its about terrorist racist organizations like the KKK, Skinheads, Black Panthers and others like them.
One terrorist group could kill 1 person and another could kill 100 and to me they would still both be terrorist groups.
I do hope you did not take my original post as a derogatory post against black people as that was not the intention. If it came across that way then I sincerely apologize, as I said I have the highest respect for you my friend…
Are they the same, on the outside no but on the inside yes. Both groups are racist toolbags. If you took the ideals of both groups broke them down into a few main points and removed all references to a certain race, the results would be very similar. The outcome is even closer, they are a drag on OUR country and a disgrace to their respective race. Neither group stands for anything worthwhile and they should be abolished. However, in this great country we have the freedom to practice our beliefs, no matter how screwed up the are. Some people are stupid, others brag about it.
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I completely agree with Bighersh in regards to James Byrd. It was an absolutely brutal and terrorist act committed by a few coward white guys. Had I had the opportunity to be there the day it happen I would have shot every f’n one of them white racist basturds…
The two black men in the sniper incident, if I am correct, are now in jail? Did they escape?
I will also tell people who can think for themselves and should already know that when a black man walks into court he is basically screwed when compared to a white guy of equal stature. Stature as in income level, neighborhood etc.
I personally think the biggest area black people get screwed is in schooling. I have always stated that public schools in black neighborhoods should be shut down and replaced by publicly funded private schools equal to private schools for other races.
Anyhow this is not about the different races but HATE groups made up of a very small minority of these races.
I can also state with confidence to any of you NEW guys spewing that Bighersh has NEVER in the time I have known him, a few years now, sided with one or the other side because of “subconscious”.
He has always been a straight shooter and tells it like it is…
The two black men in the sniper incident, if I am correct, are now in jail? Did they escape?
I will also tell people who can think for themselves and should already know that when a black man walks into court he is basically screwed when compared to a white guy of equal stature. Stature as in income level, neighborhood etc.
I personally think the biggest area black people get screwed is in schooling. I have always stated that public schools in black neighborhoods should be shut down and replaced by publicly funded private schools equal to private schools for other races.
Anyhow this is not about the different races but HATE groups made up of a very small minority of these races.
I can also state with confidence to any of you NEW guys spewing that Bighersh has NEVER in the time I have known him, a few years now, sided with one or the other side because of “subconscious”.
He has always been a straight shooter and tells it like it is…
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Wow...
I think I'll refrain from lengthy comment, but I will say as soon as the black panthers start lynching white folks, burning crosses in their yards, blowing up churches, raping white women, hailing hitler, and spawning other (more violent) hate groups like the aryain (sp) nation, skin heads and the new ****'s; let me know and I'll come back and debate the difference between the two groups with you guys...
Double standard? As if the Klan is right, and being oppressed...
That's so expected of (some of) you guys on this site...
I never expected such bulls**t to come from 01XLTSport though; a guy that, until today, I thought could see the forest and the trees. That has surprised me, but, for the rest of you guys...
I knew it...
Not that you'll find me at any black panter party rally's, (because you won't) but the difference is huge. The only similiarity is that there's a bunch of people, from the same race, that think their stance on humanity deserves a voice. That's pretty much where the similiarities end...
Ask yourself this: If the FBI damn-near eliminated the Black Panther party in the 1960's; why then is the Klu Klux Klan still around? They must have friends in high, or low places...
I think I'll refrain from lengthy comment, but I will say as soon as the black panthers start lynching white folks, burning crosses in their yards, blowing up churches, raping white women, hailing hitler, and spawning other (more violent) hate groups like the aryain (sp) nation, skin heads and the new ****'s; let me know and I'll come back and debate the difference between the two groups with you guys...
Double standard? As if the Klan is right, and being oppressed...
That's so expected of (some of) you guys on this site...
I never expected such bulls**t to come from 01XLTSport though; a guy that, until today, I thought could see the forest and the trees. That has surprised me, but, for the rest of you guys...
I knew it...
Not that you'll find me at any black panter party rally's, (because you won't) but the difference is huge. The only similiarity is that there's a bunch of people, from the same race, that think their stance on humanity deserves a voice. That's pretty much where the similiarities end...
Ask yourself this: If the FBI damn-near eliminated the Black Panther party in the 1960's; why then is the Klu Klux Klan still around? They must have friends in high, or low places...
Whether Bighersch is Black, White, asian, mexican, european or whatever isn't relevant. I really don't know what he is either. But what I do know is that people become so caught up in a cause that suddenly whatever is stated becomes the new version of history. History that took those years in the making which a small minority of people manage to re-write in no time flat. For example, removing the battle flag from the georgia flag, the SC capital grounds, and the attempt at Mississippi's state flag was nothing other than attempt to remove history. Forget it, you're bound to repeat it. Learn from it, and never repeat your mistakes of past.
Originally Posted by 98Navi
I am willing to bet, that without googling you don't have a clue what the KKK was started as, what its mission was, or what kind of people were in it.
It don’t really matter what the KKK started out as because the fact of the matter they became and continue to be a very racist and terrorist group. They killed and tortured many innocent black people. The tried their best and succeeded for quite some time in holding black people back.
They hurt and killed many innocent black women and children. Point being it don’t really matter what they may have started out as it is what they became and continue to be today. As a white man I am very ashamed being associated to such a coward, racist and terrorist group as the KKK by the color of my skin…
removing the battle flag from the georgia flag, the SC capital grounds, and the attempt at Mississippi's state flag was nothing other than attempt to remove history
I love the confedrate flag and I dont see it as a racist symbol, But it really has no buisness on a goverment flag pole.
You cant use it as an official symbol of a government that is suppose to represent blacks, when it was the symbol of a country that fought to keep blacks as slaves.
Thats like Isreal adopting the **** flag as their own.



