No, never shot skeet, and I hate shotguns!! However, shotgunners still go by the rules. Look where you are shooting. Unless that are just shooting blind, and I know that is wrong!!!

No need for apology, you are one of the good conservatives,if there is any such thing as that!!

 

**DING DING DING**

End of round one...nice clean fight guys. Now at the bell, come out of your corners and keep it clean.

**DING**


BREW

 

OK follow me here: The gun is up to your shoulder, you're looking down the barrel, and tracking what you're going to fire at. Let's say it's a quail...
Now, as you're tracking this bird, you put a lead on him. (Just like leading a reciever in football) You're concentrating on safe directions to fire, and using enough lead to hit the target. BAM!!! You've never even seen the guy that you just hit... Because you were tracking the bird and he walked into your field of fire without alerting you!. So where do you put the blame?


On a seperate note, how can you like handguns, but dislike shotguns? Both are firearms capable of propelling lead at a lethal speed. What's the difference?

 

**** Cheney makes a clarifying statement:

Washington, Feb. 12 /AP Newswire - "...Harry remained behind to retrieve his quail while we proceeded ahead. Apparently, he slipped or fell into the pond and soaked himself pretty good. He approached us from the South, I was facing that direction and my weapon was chambered to fire. I shot Harry but, there is shared responsibilty for this incident. The damn fool came out of the brush with a towel on his head."

 

I would expect no less from you, Raoul.....

 

Ok, so you say the guy that got shot shouldn't have left the other's side. "Never leave your wingman"! - Right on.

But then you say, "Common sense says when you stick together, you always know where the other ones at". So are you saying there was no common sense involved if the VP and the 3rd guy didn't know where the other one was at?

I know, I know; Accidents happen........I wonder how this would've played out if the people involved were Dems? Obviously not the same.

And waiting until after the Corpus Christi local news reported on it to release a statement. I know, I know; Out of respect for the ranch owner and the shooting victim.....man you repubs have all the right answers.

 

Thank you....


Yes, I am saying that. 3rd guy shouldn't have walked off, and VP should have known where 3rd guy was. However, it didn't happen that way, hence, the accident.

Obviously not the same...I don't think you could talk a quail into having a heart attack so you don't have to shoot it with a liberal firearm (spoken: Daisy Red Ryder)

 

Geeze, some of you guys should be politicians (in either party)... it's not "my" fault, it's the other guy's fault for being where I was shooting.

Did anyone read the story? Here is the "eyewitness" description (emphasis mine):
So, the VP walked away from the victim- the victim did NOT leave them. The victim was 30 yds behind the VP. Why would you announce yourself (scaring the birds) when you are 30 yds behind someone? {answer: I guess the obvious reason here is when you are hunting with idiots!!}

I wasn't there so I have to assume from the eyewitness account, that the VP turned and fired without looking at what might be in the path of his shot. Now I'm just an old hillbilly, but we call that irresponsible handling of a gun.

 

In a shooting mishap, the blame is ALWAYS going to be on the shooter!!

Oh, there is a world of difference..Yes, they are both firearms, but a whale of a difference. First, I will share this with ya. Being a gun lover, I am almost automatically against stupid gun laws. Some decades back, not so with shotgunners! I have seen shotgunners put down handgunners in order to save their precious sport. Whereas, I would defend shotgunners because no matter which one they(gun control proponents) come after first, their ultimate goal is get them all. Gun control goes after the most vunerable first. Second, I don't see much fun in shooting a bunch of pellets at something. However, I realize everybody is different so I respect the sport of shotgunning as just another facet in the world of guns. On the other hand, handguns always appealled to me. Comes from being a kid and crazy about westerns. Then I found out it takes much more skill to become accurate with a handgun then with the other firearms. Then using the NRA target stance, it takes a whole lot of skill to become good. I have gone clean many times with the 1911 and 22 in timed and rapid fire. Never owned or wanted to own a shotgun in my life..Just purchased rifles out of curiosity. Of the several rifles I had, I only hunted with one rifle. A Remington Model 788 in 44 magnum caliber. When I hunted for deer with my Model 29 or Ruger Super Blackhawk the 788 was my backup gun in case the shot would be too long for my pistol. Dam, I can really get to run it when it comes to old memories, can't I?

 

Don't try to turn this topic into a "is gun control right or not", this topic is about a pro-gun VP having a major gun accident. And when somebody gets shot when sport shooting, it is major.

 

thank you, thank you, thank you,

And I am the first to say, all gun accidents hurt gun advocates. All gun accidents are used by those that want to ban all guns too.

However, that doesn't stop from hearing or seeing the truth!!

 

Sure it takes more skill to hit with a handgun. The being said, I'd like to see you try to shoot a squrriel(sp?) or a quail with your Ruger....


I know if I was out somewhere with live ammunition and other people, I'd damn sure make sure they knew where I was at all times. As I stated earlier, if the VP was tracking a bird with the gun up, his field of view was drastically reduced. Did the VP make a mistake? Yes he did. Did the guy who got peppered make a mistake? Yes, he did also. However, the original intent of my argument was that the NRA will still support him because he supports them. He's taking so much flak because he is the VP, not because he's a man who had a huunting accident. If it would have been Bubba Joe and Billy Bob who did this, think we'd hear about it much less have this discussion? No, we wouldn't. The VP, and for that matter, the Pres., are both human and prone to human mistakes. Just because of the position they hole in tha govn't does not take away their humanity.


Wow, do you really believe that? For instance, I remember about 10 years ago, not far from my house, a Japanese exchange student was shot because he kept trying to go into a mans house thinking there was a party there. After repeatedly being told to leave (8 times if the news reports were correct) he charged the homeowner, thinking it was a joke. Homeowner, Randy Smith, with his wife and kids inside, at 1:00 in the morning, opened up with a Blackhawk, putting the kid down and out. The court findings? Justifiable homocide. The kid had an object in his hand, a camera, but at 1:00 in the morning when some someone's beating on your door and being told to go away, you're pretty much in survival mode. It was an intentional shooting, but an accident nonetheless. This crap happens all the time, and the shooter is not always the offender.

 

Huh! An intentional accident???????

 

this story=liberals wet dream

It is fair game (pun intended) though.

Regardless of the circumsatnces, this isn't good for the administration.

 

It"s too damn bad that he didn't take Hillary Clinton hunting with him......