Plant Bans Non-Ford From Parking Lot

Old Jan 29, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
Actually…

It is not ”TOTALLY, ABSOLUTLY, WRONG!” it is my opinion and the opinion of many other people I know and don’t know.

Don’t get so upset because it’s not my fault that Ford, in my opinion, dropped the ball when it came to the exterior and interior design of the new F150.

Now, go back and re-read my originally post, breath while you read it and comprehend what it states. No where does it state I “hate” Ford. It does mention I think the concept of GenIII Lightning is absolutely ugly and that the only product Ford has currently that I would consider purchasing is the Mustang. Other then that there is nothing that interest me.

Everything else Ford offers can be replaced by any other manufacture when it comes to the use of the vehicle. There are other trucks that can replace the Ford and do the same thing. In general, a truck is a truck, and what distinguishes one truck from another truck is basically design. All manufactures, including Ford, has their defects that reach the public.

It has nothing to do with “hate” and a lot to do with cost cutting measures to produce bland, boring, and unexciting vehicles. Ford rates number 1 currently in that department…
Your correct, it is your opinion. I just happen to disagree with your OPINION. When you bash Ford on a Ford web site(although you may SAY you do not) then expect some kind of reply.
It is MY OPINION, Ford puts out the BEST truck and always has. You have a choice to purchase whatever vehicle you choose, no one is holding you back.
And don't worry, I'm not at all "upset" that YOU think Ford "dropped the ball" with the new F-150 because I know your wrong(in my opinion, of course)
I don't need to "re read" what you wrote as I can (or anyone else) read between the lines.No need to get as technical as a lawyer.
Chill out and remember: You ARE on a FORD web site(not japanese)
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
lol he will probably say the Honda Ridgline
Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
Are you not the person that has a ton of post about how crappy Ford vehicles are? Problems with squeaks, rattles etc? Speaks a lot to how you value “quality”.
So, you going to answer the above question?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy k


What truck in your opinion is "best" since you hate Ford so much?
How 'bout that one?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
So, you going to answer the above question?
the main cause for the rattles that I had in my F150 that I had and now my Mountaineer are caused by "me" not ford. I take apart most everythign inside a cab to find just one tinny rattle, but then cause 10 more for ripping things apart. Pretty much everytime I go ripping through the truck, "I" cause more rattles. Pretty much if I had not ripped the truck apart 30 times it would have been solid like the day I brought it, but I did it, not Ford.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy k
I don't need to "re read" what you wrote as I can (or anyone else) read between the lines.No need to get as technical as a lawyer.
That’s the problem, go back and re-read the post and this time take out all the imaginary things you see ”between the lines”

Read what is actually written in black and white. People get into trouble when they try and squeeze things ”between the lines”

I don’t need to qualify myself but I have owned Ford vehicles for the past 20 years. I can with some authority tell others when I think Ford has some products that just plain suck when it comes to design, I have over 20 years experience…

To make you feel better I currently own:

2003 Ford Lightning
2005 Ford Ranger 4.0 (4x4) (leased because of excellent deal, less then $160 a month)
2005 Ford Focus (daughter’s first car)
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
the main cause for the rattles that I had in my F150 that I had and now my Mountaineer are caused by "me" not ford. I take apart most everythign inside a cab to find just one tinny rattle, but then cause 10 more for ripping things apart. Pretty much everytime I go ripping through the truck, "I" cause more rattles. Pretty much if I had not ripped the truck apart 30 times it would have been solid like the day I brought it, but I did it, not Ford.
If it's "solid" then why the rattles in the first place?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
If it's "solid" then why the rattles in the first place?
your starting to bug me
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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So I actually took your advise and re-read your post. No, your honor, you did not actually say you "hated" Ford.




Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport




Are you not the person that has a ton of post about how crappy Ford vehicles are? Problems with squeaks, rattles etc? Speaks a lot to how you value “quality”.…
Did mountaineer actually say(in black and white) that his Ford vehicle was "crappy" or is that you embelishing a little? Be honest now.


If it makes YOU feel any better: I've been driving for 18years now and also have some authority to tell other what I think of Ford trucks. In MY PERSONAL experience I've found Ford trucks to be the ABSOLUTE BEST, BAR NONE! Design, BTW, is simply a matter of absolute OPINION and has nothing to do with build quality.

I also own and use on a daily basis, an '03 E 350 superduty which now has 40,000 mi w/o a single complaint(let's see japan's answer to that)

Here, looks like you could use one of these (or more!)
 

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Is this site open to teenagers?

There's some really juvenile responses popping up on here...

I must be getting old...

Woe is the Ford owner that doesn't like all Ford products...

I know my way around an F-150 too...


 

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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My first Ford pickup was a 1966 F-100. 352 ci, duals, factory bucket seats, chrome reverse wheels, custom headache rack.

The rest are:
1972 Ford F250, 460, auto(still in driveway)
73 Ford Bronco, 302, Ranger package, A/C
75 Ford F-100, 6 cyl, auto, no a/c
1980 F-150 4X4, XLT
1986 Aerostar van, (purchased by choice, not because it was what I could afford)
1982 Ford F-150 Explorer, 300 ci 6 cyl, 4 speed
1992 Ford Explorer 4X2, XLT
1997 Ford F150, 4.6, auto, sc
2000 Ford Expy
2003 Ford Expy
2005 Ford F-150, 5.4, XLT Supercrew, the best of the Ford pickups I have owned. Smoother, quieter, bigger, more comfortable and fits my needs.

This does not include the Taurus that I drove hard for a couple of years, or the Crown Vics; or the Contour I bought for my daughter or the Mustang I own.

It has nothing to do with brand loyalty. I bought each and everyone of these because I thought it was the best vehicle for me. Period.

If Ford wants put restrictions on parking for it's employees, so be it. I think that if I drove by a Ford plant and saw a bunch of other vehicles in the parking lot, I would have to ask myself why. It doesn't fit. If a Ford employee gets a discount, why not drive a Ford.

Why drive anything else? You build them, you should have pride in your work!

Why are we bashing Ford and Ford products on this website?

Go somewhere else and voice your opinion.

And if you took the time to explore other brands websites, you will find that every make and model has problems. And just like our Fords, some have more problems than others. This site has thousands of owners that love their trucks, and are completely satisfied with the vehicle.

I am. Again.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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The fact of the matter is, I just can't stand unnecessary rules. Like this one.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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Hate to break it to you all, but this has been going on for many many years with all the mfg's.

I worked for BWM, had to go to Germany for some training, we got off at the air port and there were only Mercedes taxi's, we waited in the cold rainy weather for 3 hour's for BWM to send a couple car's to come get us cause the manager's refused to ride in Mercede's.

Chevrolet would not let Tony Stewart drive in the Indy 500 two year's ago because the car had a Toyota engine in it.

Micheal Shumacher got fined by Ferrari for being seen in public riding in a Mercede's a couple years ago. He also got in trouble when his race car broke down on the back side of a track minute's before a race, the only thing he could find to get back to the paddock's to get in his back up car before the race started was a BWM scooter he comandiered from some one.

Ford dealership I worked at several year's ago, a service advisor bought a Dodge Ram, was told she could not park on the property.

Like other's said, you think the likes of Steve Jobs are letting employ's use PC's at work, or Bill Gates employee's are running Linux, or any other company that makes a product are letting there employee's use the competition at work your crazy. This is the American way, the reason we are or were the number one in manufacturing is because the people that worked for the company's beleaved in the product, if they didn't we wouldn't have been the leaders. I now work for Ford motor company, I drive a brand new F-150.

To all you who are saying "well if Ford didn't make an inferior product, then there employee's would drive them", don't know what they are talking about. Ford ranked higher in quality last year then most mfg's. I work for Easycare vehicle service contract's, a wholey owned subsitiary of FoMoCo, we are an all makes service contract company (meaning we sale contracts on GM's, Toyota's, Honda's, all makes ect...), we also administor Mazda, Land Rover, Jaguar, and Volvo factory extended warranty's. We do analysis on all the break down's we see, and Ford ranks about 4th best in long term quality (Honda, Toyota, Lexus, and Acura [only really 2 company's]) rank higher then the Fords.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:10 AM
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In the mid 1980s I was A self employed contractor doing floor covering. I moved to A small town in Nevada and opened A bank account in A local bank. The bank had new floors installed by A company 300 miles away in Reno, and would not take bids from the local buisnesses even though there were at least three able to do the job. An ad came out in the local news paper telling the story and suggesting that they get there customers from Reno as well. The bank survived but most local busness went elsewhere.
Jobs are easy to find. If I work for you, its because I believe in what I'm doing and choose to be there. It's called team work. Loyalty has its rewards, ford didn"t say you must drive A ford, only that we'll reward you if you do.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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If the majority of the Ford employees at that plant agree with the idea then that is what you go with. If you don't work at that plant then you have no say. You do what you want where you work and the majority at Ford does what they want where they work. Don't like the majority rules then leave.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wetanner
In the mid 1980s I was A self employed contractor doing floor covering. I moved to A small town in Nevada and opened A bank account in A local bank. The bank had new floors installed by A company 300 miles away in Reno, and would not take bids from the local buisnesses even though there were at least three able to do the job. An ad came out in the local news paper telling the story and suggesting that they get there customers from Reno as well. The bank survived but most local busness went elsewhere.
Jobs are easy to find. If I work for you, its because I believe in what I'm doing and choose to be there. It's called team work. Loyalty has its rewards, ford didn"t say you must drive A ford, only that we'll reward you if you do.

It's sad to say but loyalty is a thing of the past. It's the bottom line they go by.
 
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