Why so the plane would take as long to get off a carrier deck as it would on a land runway?

 

I know I'm coming in late, but I refuse to go back and read all the arguing. I know you people are smart.... It doesnt matter if the surface the plane on is moving forward, backwards or still the planes wheel bearings are the only thing that would transfer that force to the actual plane. The plane will take off like it always has

 

No, the catapult launches it in a short area along with the engine's thrust.

When landing on a carrier deck the plane hooks on a catch cable which aids in stopping its momentum on the short deck.

 

So when a car is on a 4 wheel dyno how fast is the car going when the speedometer is reading 60 MPH? Answer, the car won't be moving at all. It will be sitting still.

 

Imagine a jetbike on a motorcycle dyno. How fast do you think the wheels will be spinning with the engine at full throttle? Answer, they won't be spinning at all, just the jet engine will be creating thrust.

 

0. Until the tires transfer power into fwd momentum your just wasting energy

 

60, but this is what you DONT UNDERSTAND, a car is not a plane, apples to oranges.

 

It's the same principle. Sheez. I think your bilstiens rattled something loose.

 

Exactly, 2 different forms of propelsion. One is traction based, the other is not

 

your logic is wrong, but you are to stubborn and proud to realize this, and the sad thing is the more you ramble on trying to prove you point the dumber you look, because you are not looking at all the forces in play here

 

Same as the jet on the conveyor system. The plane will be going 0. It won't take off.

 

it is NOT the same pricipal, NOT AT ALL, this is why you dont get it, you just fail to see your error

 

There are many forces at play here. Thrust, gravity and aerodynamics, along with the conveyor rotating opposite of the wheel speed. The conveyor is simulating the movement of the ground as the thrust of the engine pushes the plane forward, but the plane isn't actually moving forward, so there are no aerodynamics on the wings, so it won't fly. I'm not the stubborn one here.

 

The conveyor would not effect a plane. The bearings are made to roll freely and will not transfer movement to a plane. The planes tires will just free roll 2x the speed of the planes actual speed until it takes off.

 

Not if the conveyor is matching the ground speed, which the thrust of the engine is creatingi, pushing the plane forward. That's the whole argument, the conveyor matching the jet's ground speed.