No *****, let these guys at it, if the Netherlands hasn't been washed away yet they obviously know their stuff.

 

Twelve, at least according to a special report on NBC last night. They didn't say which countries they were though.

 

We don't need their help. Remeber, as much as nobody likes to admit, we're at the top of the food chain.

I haven't seen any gazelles feed themselves to a lion that was starving on any of those animal shows!

The USA rules, we're bigger, better and stronger than any country out there. The only thing that can stop us the idiot liberal wimps in our own country. We'll rebuild in not time and be stronger than before.

 

EErr...Not quite, but I was writing and filming some of those sketches!

When I mentioned that global warming could be causing some of our problems perhaps I didn't emphasise my point enough.

A few years ago (1986) we had our first ever hurricane in the UK...I was right in the middle of it.
Bad...but nothing like as bad as the one the poor people of the Gulf have just experienced.
It came as a total shock....the UK has just 'average' weather....nothing extreme.
It was the first sign that things might be changing.
I didn't really believe it though...and didn't particularly want to believe it.
However (despite being told I don't know what I'm talking about) I do have an interest in the weather.
Having run a professional weather station for many years and as a pilot I
think I just have an inkling about the climate and a reason to take note.
(I mistakenly flew into a cumulonimbus once...just the once !)

Oh yes.....and why do you think I have used the name "Lenticular" for over 8 years on Internet Forums ?
If you don't know I suggest you do a word search !

Anyway back to the point....I was dubious about global warming and I didn't
suggest the recent hurricane was solely the result of it.
However, the world's weather DOES seem, even to the uninitiated, to be getting more extreme.
It's certainly not going to moderate !

This forum has a number of participants who don't seem able to consider other possibilities than the ones stuck in their own heads.
Occasionally try listening to what other people are saying and if you don't agree try some well reasoned debate.
As with the start of the Iraq war.....the answer isn't as simple as "Just Nuke 'em"
All you do is portray an infantile image of yourselves.
(You know who I mean!)
Is that an insult?..Well..... I suppose an infantile mind will see it as that...so be it.

And while I'm in the mood....The Grand Canyon is AWESOME

The Hurricane we are talking about was AWESOME.

The new tonneau on your truck (Or whatever) was not, and never will be AWESOME.

Do try to consider some other possibilities.

I know i've mentioned it before but there are a few alternatives that may stretch your vocabularies beyond.....

"It's LIKE, Oh my GOD, AWESOME "

Please cut and paste for your future reference.....I won't say I'll spew up the next time I see the word because your definition of humor is probably to immediately use it as much as possible.... !!

Gargantuan, affecting, aggrandized, alarming, amazing, amplitudinous, apotheosized, appalling, astonishing, astounding, astronomical, august, awe-inspiring, awful, awing, beatified, big, bizarre, boundless, breathtaking, bulky, canonized, colossal, cosmic, daunting, deified, dire, direful, divine, dread, dreaded, dreadful, eerie, elevated, eminent, ennobled, enormous, enshrined, enthroned, estimable, exalted, excellent, extensive, fearful, fearsome, fell, formidable, frightening, galactic, ghastly, ghoulish, gigantic, glorified, grand, great, grim, grisly, gruesome, heavenly, held in awe, hideous, high, high and mighty, holy, honorable, horrendous, horrible, horrid, horrific, horrifying, huge, immeasurable, immense, immortal, immortalized, imposing, incredible, ineffable, inenarrable, inexpressible, infinite, inviolable, inviolate, king-size, large, lofty, macabre, magnified, mammoth, massive, massy, mighty, monster, monstrous, monumental, morbid, mountainous, moving, mysterious, numinous, outsize, overgrown, overwhelming, prodigious, redoubtable, religious, reverend, sacred, sacrosanct, sainted, sanctified, schrecklich, shocking, shrined, sizable, spacious, spiritual, stirring, stunning, stupefying, stupendous, sublime, supereminent, terrible, terrific, terrifying, throned, time-honored, titanic, tremendous, unbelievable, uncanny, unspeakable, untouchable, unutterable, vast, venerable, voluminous, weighty, weird, wonderful, wondrous, worshipful

And finally....DO remember that it's all written in the best possible taste with a considerable amount of tongue in cheek.

 

Sorry, but it is not uncommon.

http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/...ne_history.htm

 

OK, let's play your game for just a minute and continue on the assumption that 'temperatures are rising'. Now explain if this is caused by internal or external forces (of this earth or something like the sun getting hotter). You are obviously assuming that any temperature change MUST be caused by something happening on earth. So are you also assuming that nothing outside of earth's atmosphere is changing?

We are one tiny speck on one little pimple on the *** of Creation. The exhaust emmissions from my weedwacker or truck aren't going to make one iota of difference in the earth's temperatures 100 years from now.

Global warming has been disproven as junk science by many more sources than have backed it up. And even if it's true, who says it's because of us?

 

Click the OTHER link in that page and you will see that the US gave over a billion dollars. #2 slightly behind Germany
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_tot_aid_pac
You can twist the statistics to show what ever you like.

Lets see how many countries on that list contributed to all the other lost causes around the world we have.
How many have had huge US loans forgiven ?
How many have loaned Billions to the rest of the world then forgiven those loans ??

Then lets see how many of them give significantly to us.
Lets not worry about cash - how about help ? hospital ships ? Engineering help ? Help with fuel delivery ?

 

Saudi Arabia said they will step up oil production in a call to god give us strength Bush yesterday.

 

I pretty much dislike the rest of the world as much as anyone, but you my good man are a jacka$$.

 

The Dutch prime minister has sent the Hr.Ms. Van Amstel a dutch warship with First Aid Supplies,

 

from the red-light district of Amsterdam I see...

 

ahhh... but even the Lion needed a Mouse to remove the thorn from its' paw.

 

Rest easy my friends…

First and foremost, gas guzzlers are here to stay and for a very, very long time. We heard this same “the sky is falling” in the 70’s and the 80’s. We are just now paying the same price per gallon of gas as we were in the early 80’s (adjusted for inflation).

It don’t matter what other socialist countries are paying. I don’t care what Eastern Europe is paying because that is what they want to pay. It cost them to be socialist countries so they get charged for it at the pump…

Next, global warming…

God, this is getting old. The same “the sky is falling” crap we always here. Is there global warming? Hell yes, has been for thousands of years or we would have never got past the ice age.

Second, man has very, very little to do with changing climates. As far as that stupid socialist Kyoto Protocol plan, only a moron would have voted for that. America sure in the hell didn’t need to be a signer to that since we have, or damn where near have, the cleanest society on earth.

Once all the other third world countries and socialist countries can actually meet our standards then maybe we could think about it and then tell everyone else HELL NO, clean up your own damn mess…

The main reason other backwards countries wanted so bad for America to sign it is they knew it would have greatly affected American negatively. It would have held us to MUCH HIGHER standards then most other countries. Screw them…

I have personally read many scientific reports that have stated the simple volcanoes have spewed thousands more times the pollutes then the entire age of any kind of emissions from humans from fuel burning sources. Since volcanoes have been doing it for centuries it goes to show that we humans have not even began to affect the environment…

The problem with the uneducated who always complain about global warming and that we need to do something about it is the fact they have NO idea just what we should do. They don’t have any real solutions. Can we dismantle all the coal and oil burning electrical stations and replace them with nuclear plants?

The climate changes and that is a fact. What is not really known is just what kind of cycle the climate goes through. Many storms we have had have not broken past records from the 40’s and 50’s. There are still records for the hottest temperatures during summer that go back decades as well as record cold spills.

The only real, honest and scientific way we will ever know if man has had any effect on global warming is to be able to go back in time at least 10 – 20 thousand years and study the weather climates. Not possible but we do know there was an ice age and earth got itself out of that by warming and there were no men then driving gas guzzles and having BBQ’s…

 

I found the premise of this whole discussion to be repulsive. First, I was in some of the tsumani-affected area - by fate, both immediately before and after Dec 26. The scale of the two disasters, hard as this may to believe for some in the US, is radically different; the tsunami was much worse. And although it was put a bit too bluntly in some other posts (couldn't read them all), we truly don't need financial help. No doubt the offers are appreciated by each one of us, though, and I think we would be very foolish to refuse any offers of non-cash assistance. Let me just say to those outside the US (probably aren't many, as I think the F-150 is somewhat of a domestic product), thank you for your thoughts. If your country has offered assistance of any kind, THANK YOU!!! This is a human tragedy - not a geo-political one.

(CNN) -- The oil-rich nation of Qatar has offered the United States $100 million to assist in the humanitarian crisis triggered by Hurricane Katrina.

The state-run Qatar News Agency said Saturday that Qatar's emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, decided to contribute that amount for relief "and humanitarian supplies for the victims of this disaster."

The U.S. government has received offers of support from dozens of nations across the globe.

As of Friday, the White House had not accepted any offers, but Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the State Department was "working very closely with the Department of Homeland Security to match up what is available with what is needed."

There was no immediate word whether the United States would take Qatar up on its offer.

Other offers of aid and assistance have come in from countries around the world -- including from India, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Indonesia, the four countries hardest-hit by the December 26 Asian tsunami.

The State Department said offers of help had been received from more than 50 countries, including:

Australia, Austria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Belgium, Canada, China, Columbia, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, France, Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, South Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates, and Venezuela.

International organizations also offered help ranging from medical teams to tents to cash donations. They include NATO, the Organization of American States, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, and the World Health Organization.

The United Nations has offered to help coordinate international relief.

State Department officials have not yet said if any of these offers -- beyond specific offers of cash to humanitarian organization -- have been accepted.


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Following is a list of some of the aid offered by governments.

-- Sri Lanka has offered what it called a "token contribution" of $25,000 through the American Red Cross.

-- Mexico has offered $1 million and is sending 15 truckloads of water, food and medical supplies via Texas. The Mexican navy has offered to send two ships, two helicopters and 15 amphibious vehicles.

-- Australia is giving A$10 million ($7.6 million), most of it to the American Red Cross.

-- China has offered $5 million.

-- -- Germany has offered a wide range of assistance including evacuation by air, medical services, transportation services, water treatment capabilities, assistance in searching for victims, vaccination teams and supplies, and emergency shelter. Germany has also said it is ready and willing to "dip into its own emergency oil reserves" to release some 2 million barrels a day for 30 days.

-- France has offered mobile help from the French Antilles, which is relatively close to the affected regions, including a civil defense detachment of 35 people, tents, camp beds, generators, motor pumps, water treatment units and emergency kits, two CASA cargo aircraft, a ship (Batral Francis Garnier) and the frigate Ventose with its Panther helicopter, and a hurricane disaster unit (20 soldiers and 900 kg of specialized supplies and medical support).

-- France has also offered assistance from the French mainland including: one or two C-135 planes, one A-310 aircraft , and four C-160 Transalls, an airborne emergency unit. In addition, the NGO Telecoms Sans Frontieres, which specializes in restoring phone lines and Internet service in disasters, is ready to send a team of experts and equipment. Veolia Environment, which has facilities in Louisiana, has offered to make its local water management resources available to the American authorities or the Red Cross. It can also quickly send in a team of hydraulic experts.

-- Japan has offered to provide $200,000 to the American Red Cross. The government of Japan will identify needs in the affected regions through the U.S. government and, upon request, is ready to provide necessary and available emergency assistance supply amounting to up to $300,000 worth of items such as tents, blankets, power generators, portable water tanks and more from a supply depot maintained by the Japanese government in Florida.

-- Cuba's President Fidel Castro said on Friday his nation was ready to send 1,100 doctors and 26 tons of medicine and equipment.

Asia
AUSTRALIA: "We're going to provide A$10 million ($7.6 million) and the bulk of that money, if not all of it, will go to the American Red Cross," said Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer. The Australian government said there may be up to 24 Australians trapped in Louisiana in the aftermath of Katrina.

CHINA: China offered $5 million in aid for victims of Hurricane Katrina which devastated the Gulf Coast ahead of President Hu Jintao's U.S. visit. If needed, the Chinese government is also prepared to send rescue workers, including medical experts, officials said.

JAPAN: Will provide $200,000 to the American Red Cross to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said on Friday. Japan will also identify needs in affected regions via the U.S. government and will provide up to $300,000 in emergency supplies such as tents, blankets and power generators if it receives requests for such assistance, the ministry said.

SINGAPORE: The Singapore Armed Forces, responding to requests by the United States Texas Army National Guard, has sent three Chinook helicopters to Fort Polk, Louisiana, to help in relief efforts. The government said the Chinooks will help to ferry supplies and undertake airlift missions.

SOUTH KOREA: Has pledged aid and is waiting for a U.S. response, a government official said. "We have sent our intention to offer recovery aid," a Foreign Ministry official said on Friday.

SRI LANKA: Will donate $25,000 to the American Red Cross.

TAIWAN: Has pledged more than $3 million to the relief effort.

Americas
CANADA: Offered to help in any way it can and the navy is preparing a ship full of emergency disaster relief supplies to be sent when a request comes.

CUBA: Cuban President Fidel Castro offered to fly 1,100 doctors to Houston with 26 tonnes of medicine to treat disaster victims.

MEXICO: The country is sending 15 truckloads of water, food and medical supplies via Texas and the Mexican navy has offered to send two ships, two helicopters and 15 amphibious vehicles.

VENEZUELA: President Hugo Chavez, a vocal critic of the United States, offered to send cheap fuel, humanitarian aid and relief workers to the disaster area.

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