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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
Here is some advice that may make this so much easier for people watching Kerry on TV.

Cut a big frame out of cardboard and put it around the TV like a frame, so you can actually view the TV.

The write on the top or bottom of it:

”Kerry lies and flip-flops”

This way you can put anything Kerry states into perspective while viewing TV…
Don't forget to tape it, you will want to compare his position to the one he takes 4 weeks later....
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
No need to, he admitted he made mistakes in his youth. Neither Clinton nor Kerry can admit to anything they just try to spine it. Remember Clinton ”I didn’t inhale” that was really funny…


Then you have Kerry, that in case you didn’t know, served in Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam…. I didn't know he had served in Vietnam...


Anyway President Bush has never asked anybody to judge him from his actions over 30 years ago where Kerry has asked and begged everyone to judge him on his actions over 30 years ago.
Uuh, didn't you just say Kerry was an admitted war criminal and then say he can not admit to anything?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by momalle1
Uuh, didn't you just say Kerry was an admitted war criminal and then say he can not admit to anything?
Yep, you’re right on the money. See what I mean about Kerry? It’s hard to quote him on anything because today he has one position or says one thing and tomorrow is anybodies guess…

”If you want it both ways, then Kerry’s your man…”

“Kerry, Bi-political”
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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XLT Sport, good job fielding this one...its too early to argue with ignorance.

I also assume you are one that thinks its okay for NK to have nukes..."I mean they are all the way across the world."

Again, way to early in the morning to debate with ignorance.
here's stupidity for you, why the heck are we in Iraq when we THINK they have weapons and not in NORTH KOREA when we KNOW they have them? doesn't bush want to "give Gods gift of Liberty to everyone in the world"?

give me a frigging break, if W walked off a cliff would you guys follow like lemmings or would you say the people that questioned his actions in walking off the cliff were unpatriotic b/c they used their brains rather than following bush's self-admitted C-average brain?
nothing wrong with c's, they are passing. but i prefer my president to be smarter than average high school kids, not their equal.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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[i] but i prefer my president to be smarter than average high school kids, not their equal. [/B]
So you're not voting for ANYONE this year, huh?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Ok, then why didnt he keep Bin Ladin, instead of letting him go. Now you liberals are blaming W for not catching him already (like its just that simple), but your "boy" Clinton screwed by letting this joker go......all 4 times that we had him


dont diss W until you have evidence to back up your boys Clinton, Kerry, and Edwards.
------------------------------oh wait, you dont
why did this country train him in the first place. oh yeah, i remember why we trained him, the same way we planned to help the iraqi's when Bush SR was in office and then we left them hanging which created more unrest & hate against the west. your post holds no water, should bin laden have been allowed to roam free, no. should we be screwing around in iraq before we catch bin laden? NO. your appearantly of the view that we should promise help when we cannot or will not give it; then we should waste lives & resources in a country that wasn't a threat until we pissed them off by going in without any justification.

list of countries more dangerous than iraq:

north korea, iran, afghanistan just to name the current ones in the news.

why not diss a president who butchers the language, can't remember what just came out of his mouth, and enjoyed reading the book to elementary kids so much that he sat on his butt to finish the story before getting up & putting on his "president pants." was he waiting for **** cheney to tell him what to do?

it's America, diss away as you please. it's a right. just have a clue about who you're defending, or who pulls his strings like a puppet
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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If it were up to a lot of Kerry supporters anyone who didn't agree with them would be called a fascist pig and stoned to death b/c they are trying to oppress and exploit everyone everywhere. Yeah, he went in there b/c of oil...
nah, personally i'd settle for for a "that's my opinion, all politicians suck, but i promise not to vote a straight ticket just b/c my parents did when i was a kid and actually look at the issues rather than regurgitate the same crap i've heard other people say my whole life."

that about sums it up. i would save the stoning for osama. and the getting "stoned" for bush and clinton. i know clinton likes it, and it might help bush be smoother with the language than he has shown.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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I find it interesting how F-150Beast ruins any decent point he makes (and there are some in his posts) by resorting to the tired old hating Bush rhetoric. Bush is the devil, Bush is evil, Bush is a moron, Bush is a puppet... Drink some more of the Michael Moore kool aid and go write hate letters to Bush. Here is an idea, maybe he is just a guy who tried to do a really hard job and got less than stellar results, ever happen to you? Don't vote for him if you think he isn't a good president, but its pretty stupid, ignorant and disrespectful to just go over all the "Michael Moore" style Bush bashing again and again. I hear he steals candy from babies, IM's Osama from the oval office, can't tie his own shoes, and wants to go into Japan next to avenge his father's food poisoning but first he thinks we need to invade Canada to steal all their oil. Unfortunately if you really are interested to real solutions to the problems facing this country and a better man to be the CinC, as I suspect you are from SOME of your posts, John Kerry isn't the answer, he's as bad if not worse.

F-150Beast, just saw your last post, I agree lets stone Osama. Politicians suck.
 

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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I read a couple of times in this tread the North Korea has nukes and Iraq didn't, why are we in Iraq. It's simple have you heard about the condition of NK's economy. It is in the toilet. even if they started a war they would not be able to afford to finish it. China is ther only ally. Do you really think China is going to support them and lose most of their trading partners? Iraq had the ability to build a strong economy, they had a valuable commodity. What does NK have? Rice? some but not enough. Oil? Ya right. They don't have anything sell so their country is being held up by forgien powers. They might have the nukes but they are harmless. They've rattled their sabres since the Korean War ended, but they cannot support a full out war like in the 50's
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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Re: ATTN PhillipSVT

Originally posted by F150 Beast
should i spell it out...the pic should do it on it's own, but here we go anyway


clinton's BJ = stain on blue dress

bush's lie = 1,025 dead so far & counting
Bushes "lie" = with the intelligence availible, just about every politician and a majority of the general public felt that Sadam had WMD's. I know that many are now saying that there are no WMD's, but I personally think it's premature to make that assertation. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Bush "lied". I wouldn't even say "mislead". Where I'm from, after 9-11 there was a majority that said do what ever necessary to keep this from happening again. I believe that is what is being done. It took fourty years to see the results of our involvement in WW2. I can't understand how people think that this is supposed to get better in a couple years. I think it's about damn time something is being done about the threat that has been preasant for more than three decades.

Clinton's BJ = perhaps Clinton's BJ wasn't the direct cause of anyones death but the fact is he LIED under oath. For some reason people didn't find it necessary to hold this particular president to the high standard a person in that position should be held to. I guess it's because he payed down the deficit, with loans that were due, loans made during the Reagan administration. Or, perhaps it's because of the great economy we had then. Remember that bubble? Remember what the stock market did when that bubble burst?

It's actually Clinton who lied. Bush has had the misfortune to be president during the worst attacks on our country in our history. I'm sure when today is history we will see many things that could have been done different. I think it will also be appearent that Bush didn't lie.

So, I guess if Kerry is elected he won't be held to any standard? His political career has been a "lie". He says he's there for the people but it's pretty clear to many, especially many from MA., that Kerry is out there for Kerry, and will push all of us right out of hte way to advance his political career. Kerry would like it that if you hear the initials JFK, you think John F'in' Kerry, not.......
 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by F150 Beast
nah, personally i'd settle for for a "that's my opinion, all politicians suck, but i promise not to vote a straight ticket just b/c my parents did when i was a kid and actually look at the issues rather than regurgitate the same crap i've heard other people say my whole life."
Sorry bro, but I have to call BS on the post above. You are doing nothing more then following the typical liberal crowd and not using your own mind to make a decision on your own.

You ARE listening to what other people have said all their life and though you may not be following in your parents footsteps you are an absolute liberal follower because that is what your logic on this subject shows, all follower and no free thinking on your own.

No logical thinking individual can factually state that President Bush lied about anything to do with Iraq. The vast majority of this country were completely behind and in full agreement that Iraq had WMD.

This is because we were led to believe this by the Clinton administration who was led to believe that by our intelligence as well as many other countries intelligence.

Now, do not take this post as I am trying to pin this blame on Clinton. There is NO blame to place on anyone, not President Bush nor Clinton.

The blame for this complete and justified war is Saddam and Saddam alone. He lead the ENTIRE free world to believe he had WMDS, and there were WMDS regardless of what the crowd you “follow” programs you with, but nonetheless Saddam led the ENTIRE free world to believe he had MUCH MORE then what he really had.

So, 9/11 was to blame on terrorist, the war in Iraq is to blame on Saddam. The war in Iraq was just and correct and is a good example to the rest of the world that if you run your mouth and not follow international law then America will kick your *** like it has never been kicked before. Kind of like ”Oh well, so sad…”

Iraq is MUCH more then just a war over WMDS, Iraq is the center piece of the war on terrorism. Of course the crowd you “follow” who programs your thinking will not believe that but they do NOT ever look at the big picture. Liberals look at the little picture, they look 5 maybe 10 minutes out, they are like children who can not pay attention and rather then give them some stupid drugs for their problem they need to be slapped up side that head and told to SHUT UP and SET DOWN while the adults talk and take care of the problem…

Try to be a leader and stop following someone else’s footsteps…

"If Kerry is the answer, the world has come to an end..."
 

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
Liberals look at the little picture, they look 5 maybe 10 minutes out, they are like children who can not pay attention and rather then give them some stupid drugs for their problem they need to be slapped up side that head and told to SHUT UP and SET DOWN while the adults talk and take care of the problem…

Try to be a leader and stop following someone else’s footsteps…

"If Kerry is the answer, the world has come to an end..."

I am starting to believe the cult of haters here are KKK wannabe's.
The dynamic is similar. Just sustitute the word liberal with n*gger to see what I mean.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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There does seem to be a bit of unspoken. but visible disdain towards minority (ethnic group) beliefs & opinion on this site? By some, not by all- there are some level-headed folks here too.

Is this Alabama, Mississippi, perhaps?
 

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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I am starting to believe the cult of haters here are KKK wannabe's.
The dynamic is similar. Just sustitute the word liberal with n*gger to see what I mean.
The "if you disagree with me you must be wrong" attitude. Really, the intolerance of ideas that are different is about as un-American as you can get, and pretty sad. Burt, your CONSTANT rhetoric is that everything from the left and/or Democrats is incorrect and everything from right and/or Republicans is correct. All things bad in the world are the fault of liberals and all things good are the credit of conservatives. Appearently if you tell yourself this crap long enough, you actually start to believe it. The other day, you posted something about Republicans always getting elected during a war because America want's strong leadership at that time. Where do you come up with this stuff? Since you love facts, here are the facts about wartime elections

1812 James Madison was re-elected, partyemocratic-Republican
1864 Lincoln Re-elected, party:Republican
1944 Roosevelt re-elected, partyemocrat
1968 Johnson did not run again, Nixon won over VP Humphrey, party:Republican
1972 Nixon re-elected, party:Republican

Seems more like we elect the guy already in office...not always a republican, and well, we know how the last Republican elected during wartime turned out.

Give it a rest, do really think someone will believe that Republicans are always right and Democrats are always wrong?
 
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