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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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What the liberals really say about Iraq:

Senator John F. Kerry (liberal democrat):

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime…
He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation…
And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction…
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…”
Jan. 23, 2003

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Oct. 9, 2002

Senator Ted Kennedy (liberal democrat)

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
Sept. 27, 2002

Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State (liberal democrat)

“Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Nov. 10, 1999

“Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Feb 18, 1998

Senator Hillary Clinton (liberal democrat)

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
Oct. 10, 2002

Ex Vice President Al Gore (liberal democrat)
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
Sept. 23, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
Sept. 23, 2002


Prior to 9/11


Ex President Clinton (liberal democrat)

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
Feb. 4 1998

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
Feb. 4 1998

Letter to President Clinton, signed by Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John F. Kerry and others

“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Oct. 9 1998


So, any liberals care to respond and tell me what has change? Don’t bother I will tell you what changed NOTHING, except there is a republican President in the white house instead of a liberal democrat…
 
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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You forgot Clintons address after the Dec '98 missile strikes. Not only does he speak of WMDs, he states the regime as a threat to the world.


Personally I'm tired of the Dems doing nothing but bad mouthing ANY republican President. I've always been open minded at election time, but if this trend keeps up any chances of supporting any Dem will be down the tubes.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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I think that most of them are just putting nails in their own coffins. It is one thing to argue over policies, one wants free hand outs and the other wants something different, but when they (liberals) start putting themselves BEFORE the country, before the safety of all American citizens and the putting their own best interest first before the countries best interest it’s another nail in the coffin and truly a very sad day in America, it is very troubling.

A large percentage of the people are seeing this because when you see the polls there is still a very nice majority support for the President and how he is running the war on terriost and they overwhelming amount still believe and feel they can trust President Bush with doing what is right for America’s best interest. The liberals are doing nothing more then putting a bigger distance between themselves and the mainstream public.

That’s great to me, but they are putting innocent life’s here in America and the service members overseas in grave danger with their self destruction. I guess that just goes to prove the point that people like me have been making all along which is liberals have NEVER cared about people over themselves and their own self interest.

Here is to seeing the liberals destroy themselves and just plain go wacko…
 
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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I'll Drink to that!!!

Cheers.

 
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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How does anything that the demo's say put the lives of the troops in danger, what a bunch of crap. Talk about a scare tactic. Do you really think that some iraqi, afghan guy is saying "oh the democrats are questioning the US presidents actions let's go out and attack some US troops" And if the democrats followed Bush blindly they would turn and say "Come on in invade our home take us captive and force your will on us"

Iraqis and most of the nuts over there are fanatics that only understand violence as a means to an end. They will fight to the death no matter what you say or do. I think we should be over there but I don't have to agree with what ever Bush says or does, because I don't some would say that I am un-American.

As Americans we have a long tradition of letting our leaders know that we think they are full of sh*t. I understand it works both ways and you’re just expressing what you feel is the truth.

 

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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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Googly Moogly:

Here is a thread to help educate your young brain of mush.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hreadid=122695

Since you seem to have no understanding how the real world works you will find the post in that link very helpful to understand how terriost actually work and how liberals directly feed their (terriost) motives for continuing to kill innocent Americans and service members overseas.

Terriost are not clueless, nor are they stupid fanatics if they were they would all be dead by now. Please read completely through that thread that I linked and then come back and make an attempt at an educated opposing view.

I don’t mind someone with an opposing view, but it must have some logic and reality to it to begin with or it is a waste of my time to even attempt to debate with someone that seems clueless to how the real world actually operates…
 
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Googly Moogly


Pretty funny! Stupid as hell; but, funny. You ever been to FL? It's friggin' Jersey South for Christ's sake.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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Googly Moogly:

Is the site you got that picture from an ultra liberal site? Pretty goofy site if you ask me, they all believe in black helicopters coming to get them?

Here is his site: www.cultdeadcow.com


 
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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So your an expert on how the real world operates?

Where our leaders are white, male, old and send young people off to fight a war while thier sons join the Texas National Guard.

In the "real world" they send some kid in the ghetto to jail for 10 years for having a gram of coke. But when Chip gets caught with and ounce of flake he gets a to go to a resort "rehab" to get things straightened out. Hell he might become president.

In the "real world" when someone from the wrong side of the tracks robs a Stop-n-Go he goes to jail for 5 years. When some white collar ***** decides he can't get by on the millions he already has and decides to take more by emptying the pockets of his company. Which destroys thousands of lives and families he will spend 1 year in a minimum-security federal prison.



Is the site you got that picture from an ultra liberal site? Pretty goofy site if you ask me, they all believe in black helicopters coming to get them?

Here is his site: www.cultdeadcow.com
Where do you learn how the real world operates www.FOXNews.com pretty goofy site if you ask me, they all believe that Bill Clinton is coming to get them.

I am impressed I thought you would never find out where that Pic came from. Why don’t you send them an email telling them they have a goofy site.

Oh by the way Bush thanks for the extra $25 a week I now get in my paycheck I can use it to help pay the higher taxes when I buy my next house or car which will have to be raised to offset the lack of funds from government.
 

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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Which will you choose? What is going on now in the press is a fight between the cowards and those that know what must be done. The cowards are the ones running around worried about what is going on in Iraq. Are service members getting killed? Yes they are and why? Because the terriost know America very well, they know if they can erode public support for America staying in Iraq and finishing the job they (terriost) will win and have control back. Every time they see people over here on the press whining about how we need to leave and shouldn’t be there gives them more resolve to go kill more American service members, if you don’t believe that your living in a cave.
What? Your saying that a small portion of America that is expressing that they disapprove of sending troops to Iraq and that in turn gives them (terrorists) resolve to keep killing Americans.

It's not the Pep Rally they get when they to go their Mosque. What about jealously of how we prospered and they did'nt or the fact they were raised to hate us.

Maybe like most people they hate us and want to kill us because they fear us it's a very human thing to do. Whites vs. Blacks, ****'s vs. Jews and Americans vs. Immigrants (which is kinda of funny with the exception of the first Americans we are all immigrants). Or in some cases when select few makes a whole population fear a certain group so they can be blamed for what's going wrong in their lives. Kinda like how you blame the Clintons for everything that's wrong with America.

Terrorists not clueless then explain why they think they can take us on with old rifles and weapons my grandfather used in Korea that seems pretty clueless to me.
 

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:08 AM
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Sounds like you have some major issues particularly liberal issues that have over come you where you actually believe what they have feed you.

How do I know this you ask? Well your statement screams out “I am liberal and therefore I am NOT color blind”.

Typical for liberals they see different classes of people completely based on ones skin color. That is very sad. Your post reeks of racism where the “black” kid gets screwed but the “white” kid don’t. Just goes to show you know nothing of the real world but what you have been forced feed to believe by the liberals.

It is a shame you seem to think so poorly of minorities and that somehow whites have it made. In the “real world” it is those with the least amount of money that tend to get screwed while those that have the cash seem to make out a little better. There are a LOT of minorities including blacks that have some SERIOUS cash, and a LOT of whites that are **** poor. So your “race” baiting is NOT going to work.

Now here is something that will really screw up your liberal thought process. It is not a “race” issue you tend to think that ghetto means black (the color thing liberals love to see and can not get past) ghetto is nothing more then a poor neighborhood where most reside because of their dependence of FREE hand-outs and the inability, in most cases, to do for themselves.

Here is where it gets very tricky for the liberals. Ghetto’s are NOT a trade mark that is completely associated with blacks, there are numerous ghetto’s, as you like to refer to, that are NOT black but ALL races including whites to a VERY large degree. So while it may make you “feel” (something liberals love to do since they can not come up with real solutions to real problems) better to think that blacks have it hard and whites don’t, get over it, that is NOT reality but an illusion that liberals love to portray so they can continue to CONTROL people.

Here is the difference between liberals and conservatives:

Liberals believe that minorities are complete morons that can not do anything on their own, nor can they be trusted to do for themselves. Since they are so stupid they need someone their at all times to hold their hand.

Conservatives believe there is no difference at all and that a human being is a human being. That all races are capable of controlling their own destiny, are smart enough to carry on their day to day lives without intervention of someone holding their hand. If someone is capable of working and earning a living then they should, if not then no free hand out but rather tough love which means if they need to be taught a job skill then so be it, teach them and set them out, not giving out cash and walking away thinking the problem is solved because free hand outs solve nothing.

Another way to put it, which I have many times so its getting old is:

Liberal – Give a man a fish it feeds him for a day. (NOT a solution)

Conservative – Teach a man to fish and it feeds him for his entire life. (Solution)
 
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:09 AM
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In the "real world" when someone from the wrong side of the tracks robs a Stop-n-Go he goes to jail for 5 years. When some white collar ***** decides he can't get by on the millions he already has and decides to take more by emptying the pockets of his company. Which destroys thousands of lives and families he will spend 1 year in a minimum-security federal prison.
That is just stupid. The difference is violence, or the threat of violence. How many white collar criminals walk into the boss' office with a gun and demand money? This is the kind of moronic crap I hear all the time from people who can't accept that everything in their life is not someone else's fault. If Johnny White Collar comes to work packin', and shoots the place up, he get's his just desert the same as anyone else would.

There is injustice everywhere. Any person that thinks he's being held down because of the color of his skin should spend a little time looking at how many poor white people there are in this Nation. How do you explain poor whites in a country where being white assures success? The problems in this country would be more sensibly drawn along class lines than racial ones. There are some cultural problems that can be drawn along racial lines; but, how do you legislate the way people think?

Oh yeah, one more thing. Believe it or not, even rich folk have problems. Imagine that.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:17 AM
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What? Your saying that a small portion of America that is expressing that they disapprove of sending troops to Iraq and that in turn gives them (terrorists) resolve to keep killing Americans.
That would be correct, but since you don't seem to have a clue its a waste of my time to continue to explain the basic's.

You go on and continue to give the school bully your milk money and those like me will insure to kick his *** so he don't pick on others...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:21 AM
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Oh, and stop hiding behind that stupid screen name and come back on with the one you have been using for a while. Freaking liberals always have to go and HIDE behind something.

You’re not just some troll, you picked me out specifically which means I must have really upset you so rather then take me on with your REAL screen name you hide behind your new goofy one…
 
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 03:05 AM
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Well it certainly isnt me...I hope you know that by now my friend. And while I do agree with some of what "Googly Moogly" says (although in a very limited way because much of what he is saying has very little thought or intelligence behind it), I also agree with you, "Burt Almighty" on certain statements.
 
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