I dont want to sound like im following everybody else on here but if I was driving 35,000 miles a year then i think i would get the diesel, especially if you want to keep it for a while.

 

The 2V V8 and 2V V10 - same moduler design just w/ 2more cylinders - had the SAME plug prob. Believe it or not many more motors of that design do not have probs to this day! A few bad apples can ruin a barrel.

The 2005 and on 3V design hasn't seen that prob so the comments made are yesterdays news.

The MPG of the V8 versus the V10 are close. If you tow with some decent weight you will get LESS mileage with the V8 because it works much harder to get that load around. This is basic truck 101 knowledge...

Sometimes these threads can be like a 'skipping' record as i know this has been a topic again and again...oh well, it's a good reminder

(oops...I'm off the topic again!)

 

Yes, yes, but I stated that I do not tow anything except some fire wood once in a while. So the towing is not a factor for me. I want a stick shift truck that I can put an 8 ft plow on and get OK mpg. The 08 250 4x4 5.4L sounds like it fits those categories well to me. The F150 doesnt come in stickshift unless you get a 4x2 v6....sad... and you cant put a 8 ft plow on it either...to much stress on a half ton.

Diesel gets what? 2-4 mpg better than the 5.4L V8? AND costs 7300 more, AND Diesel is close to $4.00 around here and gas is $3.03....... PLUS the expensive oil changes and many diesel parts to fail after warranty. So SOMEONE please explain how you can spend MORE per gallon and more per oil change AND an extra 7300 up front if you are NEVER going to tow anything. The diesel is not, was not, and never will be an option for me unless I have a need for towing in the future. I want a $40,000 gas truck ith the options and toys, not a $40,000 diesel with NOTHING.

I plan on keeping this truck 5 years and then trading it for a super crew truck when we have kids. It doesnt have to last 500,000 miles like the diesel will.

About the V10 plug problem, that isnt that far in the past. My dad @ Ford is STILL dealing with the problems from the plugs in the V10 in the last model truck. Many un happy customers there......


LOL, we should change to topic to 08 Superduty DEBATE, not rebates....

Roger

 

Roger....go get your truck and be happy. No need to keep posting what you think is reality when you already have your mind made up. Not sure why you even posted your question here since you refute and dismiss everyones advice and experince.

Go forth and prosper. May the force with you. Wear your seat belt. Don't drink and drive.

I am off this thread. Peace out dawg

 

Lol... I never asked someone to shove a diesel dow nmy throt. I asked if anyone had and ideas about the next round of rebates and what the MPG was on the v8 and v10. Made it clear that I didnt tow and didnt want a diesel. Thanks for your input though.

Thanks to all who input on the mpg, and anyone else is welcome to input on MPG and driving conditions to get that MPG... even on the diesel... it good to know for ****s and giggles.

I would really like to know what more people are getting with the V8 though....

Roger

 

Hi Roger, here's the mileage figures on my 2004 2WD auto 3.73 supercab: 42017 miles driven, 3069.6 gallons used. $7726.90 spent on regular gas. Average mpg - 13.668. Highest recorded mpg - 16.98. 248 unloaded freeway miles on I 10 in AZ, very flat. 14.6 gallons used. Lowest recorded mileage - 9.66. 260 loaded freeway miles towing the 26 foot boat, approx. 7500 lbs., from Lake Tahoe, CA, over Donner Summit and down into the San Francisco bay area - 26.9 gallons used. I have hand recorded every mile driven vs. every gallon used since the truck was new.
I've done all scheduled maintenance myself. The truck has never been back to the dealer. It runs great and is utterly reliable.
The 5.4 has more usable power than the carburated 454 in the 1980 3/4 ton Chevy Suburban that I drove for 221,000 miles. The highest mpg the 454 ever returned was 12.9, again on I 10 in AZ.
I would not hesitate to buy another 5.4 in a SD if it fit my needs.
Mike

P.S. As for diesels, for certain situations, you can't beat them. I haven't run up against that situation yet. As a 'grocery getter,' they're a waste of money. If I ever do need one, it'll be a 7.3 or a 12 valve Cummins. Ford diesels haven't had the best record lately, and I'd pick the V10 over the 6.4 if I bought a new Ford truck now.

P.P.S. The reason for my original post was to refute the bad advice handed out by people who "wonder why they offer the 5.4 in the SD." Or state: "you are going to hate yourself for getting a 5.4 in a F250." Ford puts the 5.4 in the SD because it works. It's worked for nine years and there are a lot of them in use. Comercial and non-comerical. It's great for certain situations, but not all of them. It's not a V10 or a PSD, and I never said it was equal to either of those engines. I wonder if F650/750 owners look down on trucks that 'just' have a V10 or PSD for power?

 

Good luck Roger! Rolling Rock has it right. The minds been made up and I wasn't hoping to change that. Just trying to give real world opinion. Since it's just that - I've done it enough. Take care...either way a Ford is a Ford

 

The only downside to the 2008's PowerStrokes is, if you ever need major engine work, your entire Cab needs to be removed prior to getting deep into that engine.....that is a nightmare$$$$ out of warantee.......

 

yah, but the v10 has the same system and so does the v8 5.4L. The smaller engines have more rrom to work, but the cab comes off for a lot on all 3 motors. BRAND new, my dad told me that they were pulling a couple cabs off aleady after 3,000 miles... im am unsure what motor they all were but atleast one was a diesel... at 3,000 miles...thats ****ty for any motor. That truck prolly will never be the same. Too much **** to do with taking the cab off....

but thats something ANY new superduty owner should know... you could have to pull the cab off to work on the motor. ESPECIALLY the diesel motor for turbo poblems and injection pumps! (right word?, i think it is..lol) or any other part near the rear of the motor....

Roger

 

LOL

 

whats so funny about a design flaw? I cant believe ford would engineer something so poorly that you have to pull the cab off to work on the motor...

 

It's not a 'flaw'...It's the way it is....Hey, send in your design of some sort of 'improvement' and maybe they will 'see the light'...

Heck, I see it as an opportunity! You can always do additional work, add fresh cab bushings, replace ANYTHING that's needed...no no, amigo...it's an OPPORTUNITY!!!

 

I am laughing at your utter ignorance. So is everyone else here.

 

HAHA, we'll see how ya feel when you pay to have the cab removed to work on the motor OUT of warranty. Yah, you can laugh all you want now, but when you spend $$$$$ getting something fixed and removing the cab, you'll have no right to b!tch. You think what you want, but its stupid to have to pull the cab just to work on the back of the motor. Its a lot of extra work that is not necessary. In the past the cab didnt have to be removed, so wtf is so special now? NO ONE will WANT to pull the cab, it'll be a necessity. MANY vehicles have "flaws" or drawbacks to them, and this IS one of them. There are TEAMS upon TEAMS working to design this truck, and they could have done a MUCH better job.

Example: WHO THE FU*K wants the back seat SO LOW to the ground in a supercab that you cant sit back there? Im 6'0" and I can BARELY fit UNCOMFORTABLY in the supercab. My knees are in my face sitting back there.... AND when making the new body style, why not add the power rear windows like the f150 did? The space in the back seat of the supercab DECREASED from what it was.

 

Thank you for proving my point about your ignorance. This post is gold I tell you.....gold!

I have to ask you....what do you do for a living?