Can I pull a fuse or relay etc to stop the lights from being on all the time?
Based in the UK and the only other cars that do this are Volvos!
Anyone?

 

the DRL - Daytime Running Lamps are controlled by 2 relays in the Aux Relay box.

The ARB is under the hood, on the left fender.

You should have 2 relays to remove, to stop the DRL from functioning.

R03 and R201.

Here is a thread that describes the operation of them, along with the DRL resistor.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=278212

I would not suggest pulling the resistor without removing the relay, else the connector behind the Driver's side headlamp still has power at it.

 

 

Barely setting the e-brake (not so it drags - just so the pedal isn't at the top) should also turn them off.

 

I have to wonder why people don't want these on.
It's not like it affects the performance of the vehicle and it's been demonstrated that it increases the visibility of the vehicle exponentially, thus making the road a safer place for everyone to drive.

 

Interesting. My truck lights don't come on during the day. I just assumed it didn't have daytime running lights?? Maybe the previous owner did something to turn them off??

 

I don't know how you can measure the visibility of a vehicle precisely enough to know that it's an exponential proportion, but people somehow managed to drive for a few years with no DRLs. Personally, I hate the glare, so I assume others do, too, which is why I'm not interested in having them.

But then, nothing I drive has them to begin with.

 

I drive around tiny euro boxes so dont think there is a problem with the trucks visability!
I just cant stand people constantly tapping my window to tell me my lights are on during the day and then followed by "your steering wheel is on the wrong side" like i really didnt notice!
Followed by "you must have to drag a petrol station around with you driving that thing"
So im sick of bizzy body ******* sticking there nose in my business basically

 

Oh I see, like someone asking you why you would want to disable DRLs ?


Next time someone makes the steering wheel comment, tell them they have 3 min to get a head start, then they are in Barney

 

Vehicles also used to not have ABS brakes, Air bags, crumple zones, emergency hazard lights, fuel pump shut-offs, side impact bars, collapsible steering columns, hell, even turn signals and seat belts once upon a time, but yeah, we somehow managed to drive then too.

Just like these safety features, it's well documented that DRL's significantly increase vehicle visibility and by virtue of that, save lives. Maybe you don't like the glare (), but have you ever noticed how on dark stormy days a lot of idiots don't bother to turn their lights on, or even at dusk or in the middle of the night have you ever seen a car suddenly appear out of the dark without its lights on? How many accidents have occured because of this?

DRL's help to alleviate these incidents and more because vehicles are more visible. The insurance institutes have well documented that the use of DRL's reduce highway casualties. There's a reason why they were made the law here in Canada and other countries: they save lives. So next time someone quips:



Tell em that maybe they might save their lives one day, or if not theirs, maybe the person they hit who couldn't see them.

 

Somehow, I missed those documents.AaaaaaaHA! So the problem is: bad drivers. No amount of light will fix that, and protecting idiots from realizing that they're idiots doesn't make them any safer to be around. It just allows them to reproduce in greater numbers, making the world more dangerous for everyone. I certainly don't want to pay (even the few cents for the extra gas to power the extra bulbs I'll be burning out) to protect idiots, or to make it easier for them to stay on the road.

None of my vehicles have ABS, either, and only the CV has airbags, which I could do without. (Yes, I've been in MANY wrecks, and only the most recent one did I have airbags - they didn't help.) Crumple zones are a part of the airbag system. I don't have strong feelings either way about ABS, but I recognize that it's useful for several reasons. The inertia switch is part of the electric fuel pump system. Side-impact bars are a result of building cars too small & light - drive a fullsize vehicle & you don't need them. Steering columns should have ALWAYS been collapsible. Turn signals are too cheap & easy not to have. I got no use for seat belts, either.

 

This part I will agree 100%. Part of the logic behind behind motorcycles having headlamp light laws.

Now with every car on the road burning bulbs during the day, what happens to the motorcycles ?

I've ridden in CAN where they appear to have a DRL law, and in the day time in traffic, bikes disappear into the traffic flow.
We already have enough challenges on a bike, with cages, now the soccer mom in her SUV yelling at her kids while on the phone ( read as the stereotypical example of a driver not paying attention ), can no longer distinguish that smaller bike in traffic. Bikes need all the help in traffic they can get.

The extended logic to saving lives part... a bit of a reach. DRLs are for attention getting. With every moving vehicle on the road with headlamps, the use of them is lost, as there is no more obvious difference.
Same for when I drove a tanker in college hauling gas, law was to have headlamps on at all times. Reason being to draw attention to this is not the normal cage you are expecting. Wake up dope and pay attention ( not you, the on coming cage ).

My comment was pointed at your starting post of why do you want to... Let me think... Because it is his truck, not in CAN ( where it appears to be a law ) , so he can do what he want. Yes, you did stick your nose in his business, where it really does not belong.

An relying on DRLs for those who do not turn on lights. That would be a function of Autolamps. DRLs burn at a lower wattage, and oh yea..no tail lights. See it quite often in Chicago. Dopes that "forget" to turn on their headlamps b/c the damn DRLs are on, and when you come up behind a black car driving way too slow, sans taillights...yes it is a shock, but all it takes is removing the foot from the gas pedal, to the brake pedal. No danger there...oh wait that is because I am paying attention. Ses DRLs caused a problem, and nothing to do with DRLs made the situation no big deal ?? Hummm.... Interesting DRL caused the problem this time...More like DRLs are making people stupid.
Don't ask me how they can see..might extend to that cage driver that does not pay attention ???
Maybe a law for Autolamps is a better option for those people, or more so enforce the laws we have ( headlamps on at night ) and remove their driving privileges, due to their inabilities to drive ( read as enforce the laws we have, not make more )

 

Wow! Thank you for enlightening me
I would never have realized that all these safety features are completely unnecessary. I guess I'll just disable all these features and be glad that I won't ever need them.
No seat belts - sure I'll just fly through the windshield and hope my skull doesn't get smashed into the vehicle that hit me, or that I land in front of another oncoming vehicle.
And yeah, I'll just drive trucks and big honking SUV's from now on that don't really need the side impact bars, even though they have them anyway, for whatever reason. (Can you spell 'rollover'?)
Crumple zones part of the airbag system?- news to me, oh that and the inertia switch being part of the fuel pump system - no kidding
Oh yeah, there's another thread on here from a guy who wants to disable his ABS brakes, so I guess I'll find out how that's done and join the crowd. Then I can pump my brakes manually like crazy while trying to regain control when I skid in the snow. I like complex manouvering in dangerous situations. While we're at it, why not dispense with our brake lights, horns and rear view mirrors, no worries.
Turn signals are cheap and hey, guess what, so are DRL's.
BUt I guess peoples lives are cheap also, especially all those idiots out there who don't know enough to turn their lights on when it's dark. Not like any of us are guilty of having done that on occasion.

Oh, and here's some documents for you:
http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/DRLs/studies.htm

Have a safe read.

 

Ok Scully, you make some good points, most of which are arguable.

But first of all I have to say that you have a lot of nerve saying that I was butting into his business. Excuse me, but isn't that what nearly every post on this forum does to some degree. People are advising other people on what and what not to do all the time. But that's not what I was doing, I just made a general comment, which last time I checked, it's a free country and we're all entitled to our opinions. I voiced mine about the situation in general, not specifically towards the OP, who, btw, did offer an explanation, which I'm sure helped you to understand his stance, as well as others, so a service was done, wasn't it. If I was telling him he's an idiot and shouldn't be messing around with things like that, then I think you'd have cause to take issue, but that's not what I did, so lighten up man. I could say the same about your posts if I wanted by your reasoning. Anyway, whatever...

Ok, about your arguments. First I don't see that DRL's make motorcycles any less visible. What, do they disappear because other vehicles have their lights on? Do drivers ignore the motorcycle headlights because they can only see the DRL's. I'm pretty sure that the common practice for cyclists is to use their high beams, which are significantly brighter than DRL's or even low beams, so if anything they're more visible. I really can't buy your argument. Like you said, they're for attention, and guess what, they work, just like motorcycle headlights have and always will. Using DRL's doesn't mean that you can't distinguish between a car and a motorcycle, how is that possible? And even if you don't, are you going to ignore that light shining at you. No, I don't think so. Sorry, but if it works for motorcycles, it works for vehicles too, and they aren't mutually exclusive.

You other point about everyone using them makes them less effective is also ludicrous. Isn't the old adage 'Lights on for Safety'? I don't see how having more vehicles using lights during the day makes vehicles less distinguishable, au contraire. How does that work? I'd like you to explain it. What, we get blind to vehicles because there's too many of them using DRL's. Come on, that makes no sense at all. They aren't any less effective just because more vehicles have DRLs on, that's just ridiculous, I'm sorry.

Now I do agree with you about the taillights. I always wondered why they aren't activated also, since on dark days they really do help when people turn their lights on. And yes, people may not bother with their lights because of the DRL's, so I totally agree that is a problem. However, the solution is not to ban DRL's, but to make the tail lights come on automatically also. Easy.

As far as the Autolamps, they're a great idea too, like DRL's. Problem is they have to be manually activated, so human error is bound to happen and people will not turn their lights on, making them less visible from both front and rear in dim lighting. One thing I've also noticed about my Autolamps is that they don't come on when I would expect them to. Sometimes it's getting a bit dark and I would ordinarily turn my lights on, but the Autolight doesn't sense it's dark enough, so it's just a matter to adjust the sensors obviously. IN the meantime the DRL's provide at least some illumination so that at least others can see me a lot better than without any lights on at all.

I don't know, but I personally think that using DRL's is a no-brainer.
When I first heard of the idea here in Canada I thought, yeah, that's a great idea. And I really can't see why anyone would be against them. I think it was the automakers who voiced complaints and started lobbying because they didn't want to have to put the R&D into it and have extra costs, etc, so they started up these counter-arguments that really have no weight and got people believing that they're a problem. The truth is that they are a solution. LIghts on for Safety, remember.
Anyway,gotta go.

 

We used to have a 1999 Cougar and all lights came on when the car was started. DRL's (or maybe it was full headlights, never bothered to check), tail lamps, dash lamps.
I agree auto lamps should be mandatory.