I'm not sure you read all the posts on here, or you missed a few key points.

First, DRLs do use reduced (dipped) illumination, so they aren't 'dazzlingly' bright, just enough to stand out, so you have made your own argument invalid.

Second, I fully agree that the taillights should be on also, I stated that quite clearly way back. And yes, they do come on with Autolamps, but Autolamps have to be manually activated, while DRLs come on with the ignition, so there's no human error in activating them, therefore safer than Autolamps.

Anyway, I'm repeating myself. I've made all my points in the previous posts. I hope I don't have to keep reiterating them for people.

 

Give it a rest, man. You're clutching at straws now, trying to justify your intolerance of other peoples opinions that contradict your own.

"bizzy body ******* sticking there nose in my business basically "

You've completely taken this out of context trying to prop up your argument. This was actually the OPs reply to my post, and it's not referring to me, but to people who tell him that his lights are on during the day.

So yeah, your weak point is getting weaker as you lamely try to justify things.
I've noticed the OP still hasn't made any objections at all, just yourself.

Do yourself a favour and give it up.

 

Hi Stu.

You're killin' me man !

Very well said.

BTW - this is also pricless -

... I needed that particular turn-of-phrase earlier, to placate some other twit.... wish I has seen it sooner LOL!

Carry on.

Cheers
Bubba

 

Not clutching at straws at all. I was answering Jimmy2's post about being weak. Might want to read the thread top to bottom to figure if you are answering posts to your own comments or not in my posts.

The inclusion I used of you with the bizzy body ******* sticking there nose in his (Grandthroblord) business was more then fitting with your offered opinion. He wanted HIS DRL's off on HIS truck, and it was not violating the law. Your opinion was sticking your nose in his business. Why did Grandthroblord want them off, because it is his truck. You insistence that DRLs should be left on are not something that Grandthroblord wants to do, and your backing for why they should be left on does not matter to him, or is provable.

Now you are just making stuff up, that is easily traceable in the thread, I don't know which OP you are referring to above, but Grandthroblord is the person with that comment above, that you claim has made no objections. That is not the case. You can't even keep track of who said what to who ( even though a quick read PRIOR to posting would give you the answer.

The weak part brought up by someone else, don't know why your are commenting on that, vs. you deft ability to avoid factual item brought up i post #20. I see you are keen at avoiding not knowing what you are talking about with blinding people during the day, and why traffic fatalities per capital have increased after the inclusion of this great safety feature.

Do yourself a favor, figure out who said what, and who started the thread, prior to posting. Don't give up, just figure out what you are answering before posting. You might not look like you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

SSCULLY, with all due respect, I still think you have a weak argument and here is why.

Please, just read what he originally said:

He asked a question, then made an observation about DRL's.

No where does he refer to Grandthroblord personally: "I have to wonder why people"...........He said "people", and he was asking a general question with respect to why people don't want them, and providing an opportunity for people to express their opinions on DRL's, nothing more.

I'm hardly an expert on the ethics of posting on a public forum, but it's unfair to suggest he was "butting in", or guilty of "sticking your nose in his business".

(With respect to what you suggested earlier using an example about replying to my question about auxillary power sources, in another thread, I can see your point to an extent, although you never know, I might have pondered your suggestion and said yeah, he's got a point, I'll just use the power button. Thats the whole point of a public forum. As it turned out, I installed the fuse tap, and switch and it's working great!)

 

yes but it takes away from noticing a motorcycles drl... would you rather a car/truck tag eachother and the occupants be safe from the airbags and seatbelts?

or would you rather have people be use to seeing drl's and cream a bike because it looked like another car?

 

This is becoming a bit of a joke, sorry.

Jimmy2, Thanks for the defence, I think you speak for all rational thinking people who may read this.

Klitch - your points have been made in previous posts, and responded to. If you're looking for an argument, pretend you're Scully.

Scully - I kept very accurate track of who said what and when and double checked all my statements and references before I posted. You might want to go back and objectively read through the whole post yourself and you'll see that I never got mixed up at all, sorry to disappoint you.

The weak part brought up by someone else, don't know why your are commenting on that, vs. you deft ability to avoid factual item brought up i post #20. I see you are keen at avoiding not knowing what you are talking about with blinding people during the day, and why traffic fatalities per capital have increased after the inclusion of this great safety feature.

Guess what, I replied to this way back:
The reason there are more fatalities is because there are a lot more vehicles on the road these days. The population is growing and becoming more affluent, so they're buying more vehicles. Used to be there'd be one car for a family, now there's a car for every member who can drive, sometimes more than one. We live in an era of excess and the automobile is the most visible sign of that. So, more cars, more accidents.

I know you want me to look like I have no clue, but I do, sorry.
Your statements are backfiring on you. It's obvious that you're the one who isn't reading the posts properly.

Grandthroblord (yeah, him, the OP ) never made an objection to my statement, he responded, that's all. The only way my opinion would be butting into his business would be if I said he shouldn't be doing that. But I didn't.
So F'ng Relax, Pal.

 

Wow, look at that, another motorcyclist that understands what this is doing. BTW, you still have yet to respond to any of that post. Post #20 that is.

That is why you took text to Jimmy2, and replied to a comment made to him, agian by passing post #20.

Might want to check the made up facts you make. CAN traffic fatalities are increasing at a higher rate then vehicle ownership per captial. Nice try, but you are just making stuff up again.

Don't care what you look like, pointing out you are making stuff up, and bypassing facts, with made up facts. I keep my posts straight. You quote replies to other quotes taking them as you own.

Sorry, I took the 'don't want them don't care for them, don't care what made up facts' type of posts to be an objection. I did not see agreement in them, guess that is my fault

Read this thread by Steve ( that would be Steve the owner of the forum ) :
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=221454

 

Easy open book test.

Did Grandthroblord ask :

A) Should I disable my DRLs ?
b) Do DRLs have a performance impact on my truck ?
C) How do I disable my DRLs ?

If you answered A or B, then the above quote is correct ( and you got a 0% on the test ).

You seemed to have missed my point. The point was I would NOT do that. I would answer the question that you posted, and given options on how to get to where you wanted to be. That is unless it was braking the law ( disconnect the odometer type fraud posts as an example), then I would have pointed that out, and reported the thread to a moderator.

 

Hello! see post # 25. DUH!
Oh yeah, I forgot, you read everything on here so thoroughly, how could I have forgotten that.
And sorry, having another cyclist complain about this doesn't prove anything, Cyclists are always complaing about not being noticed, kinda goes with the territory. DRL's don't make your lights any less noticeable, sorry. What, do bike lights somehow get dimmer cause other people have DRLs.

Again, read post #25, a full and complete response to all the points you made in post # 20, just in case you missed it the first time. Besides, your comments to Jimmy2 were for the most part about me, so I think I had a right to respond to that, again, I think freedom of speech is a part of our free societies we live in, thank you very much.

There's nothing 'made up' in what I stated, that's all pretty obvious stuff. The reasons for higher fatalities are complex:
A: there's a lot more vehicles on the road.
B: Road quality and infrastructure haven't kept pace with that and
C: people drive a lot faster and have more distractions.

These are just a few factors and it's certainly an indication that better safety measures are needed. DRLs address the safety issue by making vehicles more visible under a variety of lighting and road conditions. That's irrefutable, you agreed with that yourself.

The thing I don't get is that people are always saying 'Oh, if it can save one life, I'm all for it'. Well, I think it's been proven that DRL's reduce the chance for collisions considerably, enough that I'm sure many lives have been saved. I did provide a link to several studies that supports this. I'm sure there are many others too.

????, now you're sounding like Steve, not making a lot of sense here.

You took whatever you bloody well decided to take to justify your intolerance, Or maybe you are somehow mind melded with the OP that you know his inner thoughts and feelings.
He never voiced any objection to my post, just his objection to using DRLs.

And since when did you become the bloody Post Gestapo, anyway?


Ok, I erred, I wasn't aware of this. My apologies to the forum.
Guess that means you win. Congratu freaking lations.

 

All the ANGER!!! lets keep this civil guys . Anyway my imput on DRL's is that they are kinda nice. I know a few situations where they have prevented me from doing something stupid. This may be a matter of oppinion BUT I can judge a vehicles distance a whole lot better when there is some sort of light radiating from them (passing in a two lane road for example much easier to judge the distance to the vehicle comming head on to me if there is one). Thats just my opinion. If ya wanna turn them off...be my guest but I kinda like them. As for having people knocking at your window in GB, get electrified windows!
~Phil

 

I can believe that! You seem like a pro.Is there an echo in here?Wait - are you talking about me or YOU?
Liar. 2 pages of 'not bothering' later...

You're making up statistics to prop up your opinion & chop-logic, and when you get called on them, you ignore them & try to change the subject. Nothing you've posted has contributed an factual, useful, or even interesting information to this thread. Your conclusions are pure conjecture, and usually erroneous. Everything about your posts appears to be nothing but trolling & post-padding.

 

I ride and I drive a truck. plain and simple, with all the lights on, it is harder to tell the dif between a car and a bike, especially at night. I have had some near misses that made my wife wonder why i keep riding. this is a public forum and everyone has a right to there opinion. give some hard statistics on. I know my personal opinion is i don't like drl's because of my previous experiences with them. my 2 cents thanks.

 

Well Steve,
You got me. Yeah, I'm a liar, especially after I said I'm done.
Except you missed out the part where I said 'at least for now'.
And that was before your friend Scully chimed in. What a delightful fellow.
It's amazing how you two have this uncanny selective reading ability. Although that probably explains your feeble comprehension of things.
Anyway, hope you feel better now that you got all that out.
Now maybe you'll go back and read through this whole unfactual, uninteresting and useless thread. Perhaps you'll have something useless to submit too.
Like that last post of yours.
Enjoy!

 

First of all, thanks for supporting everyone's right to voice their opinion.

I used to ride a bike too, that was before DRLs came in up here. Yeah, it's scary out there. But I really think the problem is that bikes need to make themselves more visible. Eliminating DRLs is not the answer. You said yourself that seeing a bike is harder at night, but we can't all drive around with our lights off at night, can we. If I was driving a bike these days I'd make sure it had lots of illumination. Metal Halide lamps, side lights, reflectors, strobes - you name it. I'm sure all this stuff is out there.

I don't know, to me, making a vehicle more visible can only help, not hinder public safety on the roads.