Edge trouble
#16
just got off the phone with edge. they said i shouldnt need a reflash just to hook it up to the computer and do the fusion thing. i just downloaded fusion now i just need to get to my truck which is 15 miles away with no wheels. my brother just left for college too so now he cant help... i guess ill get on the neighbors little pink huffy and start my voyage.
#17
well i got my device, im on the phone with edge now and apparently i have the lightning software not the fusion. after explaining for a few moments that the computer was the issue not the truck he said i had to send in my PCM, edge power controller and the cord.
now i need some more help please, its about getting the pcm out of the truck. any one with some advice id appreciate it. im pretty mechanically inclined but ive never done much electrical. or if i need to hit the search button you can tell me to do so.
now i need some more help please, its about getting the pcm out of the truck. any one with some advice id appreciate it. im pretty mechanically inclined but ive never done much electrical. or if i need to hit the search button you can tell me to do so.
#18
#19
i just called back to double check myself and thats what they said. i have been searching for removal but cant find much. i must be entering the wrong thing into the search engine.
i have to send in the programmer, cable and pcm. i asked them to see if i had the old cable and they said they would check out the cable but its usually the pcm getting old not the cable. they told me the pcm should be behind the glove box. i hope this is right.
would they download the fusion software to it you think? or are they going to reflash the pcm and the edge? all this electronic stuff is a bit new to me. i guess i better learn.
i have to send in the programmer, cable and pcm. i asked them to see if i had the old cable and they said they would check out the cable but its usually the pcm getting old not the cable. they told me the pcm should be behind the glove box. i hope this is right.
would they download the fusion software to it you think? or are they going to reflash the pcm and the edge? all this electronic stuff is a bit new to me. i guess i better learn.
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Edge has had bad luck trying to remotely program a stock writer file to the the edge evolution.....
So that's why they want everything.....I really don't think you have a bad pcm......I think when your bro did what he did is he corrupted the file flashed to the pcm and also the firmware in the programmer along with that the cable might have gotten toasted....
Just a note....ALL cables for the 97-03+04h are an accident waiting to happen.....I'm saying that nicely
Take care and good luck....
So that's why they want everything.....I really don't think you have a bad pcm......I think when your bro did what he did is he corrupted the file flashed to the pcm and also the firmware in the programmer along with that the cable might have gotten toasted....
Just a note....ALL cables for the 97-03+04h are an accident waiting to happen.....I'm saying that nicely
Take care and good luck....
#21
they said something along the lines that it is happening in the 04-07 too just less. that it happened to the pre 97 7.3s then the 97-03 f150s now starteing to show in newer things. they claim its not them but the pcm and not the cable tho... just the computer getting old...
the pcm should be just a couple of wiring harnesses and a few small bolts to take out, im assuming 8mm, ill disconnect the battery first of course. pretty easy right?
the pcm should be just a couple of wiring harnesses and a few small bolts to take out, im assuming 8mm, ill disconnect the battery first of course. pretty easy right?
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they said something along the lines that it is happening in the 04-07 too just less. that it happened to the pre 97 7.3s then the 97-03 f150s now starteing to show in newer things. they claim its not them but the pcm and not the cable tho... just the computer getting old...
the pcm should be just a couple of wiring harnesses and a few small bolts to take out, im assuming 8mm, ill disconnect the battery first of course. pretty easy right?
the pcm should be just a couple of wiring harnesses and a few small bolts to take out, im assuming 8mm, ill disconnect the battery first of course. pretty easy right?
Any electrical work with the edge evolution/gryphon plugged in, is susceptible to corrupting the programmers firmware, board, etc....that's why its recommended to unplug the programmer when doing an activity involving electrical work....this is what most of the problems are....
Personally I think they're full of it.....the pcms in these trucks are pretty solid....
#23
Wow I didn't think getting the PCM out would be so much fun! At least it's out now and hopefully ede will help me out. Now does anyone know how much this will run me, well my brother really. I figured since my edge is 4yo the warranty would be up. They didn't mention price on the phone.
I do have a carborated 460 in need of a home. Doubt it will fit well.
I do have a carborated 460 in need of a home. Doubt it will fit well.
#24
i dont know what others have experienced with edge customer service but so far they have been great. they are replacing my edge evo with a brand new one and new cable as well. i will also get the new fusion software as well. i guess my pcm and old one arrived at edge today so i havent gotten it back yet to see if it will all work but i believe it should.
now i have a question, when i set my edge up on level 2 four years ago i believe i retarded the timing just a little bit to run better with my intake and exhaust. is this what someone would recommend with the new one as well or should i just run the canned level 2 tune? i run level two(towing) because it fits my driving style. i dont have to go above 2k rpm and get up to speed just fine, like a little diesel. all low end and im getting 18mpg. of course thats with the 285s off.
now i have a question, when i set my edge up on level 2 four years ago i believe i retarded the timing just a little bit to run better with my intake and exhaust. is this what someone would recommend with the new one as well or should i just run the canned level 2 tune? i run level two(towing) because it fits my driving style. i dont have to go above 2k rpm and get up to speed just fine, like a little diesel. all low end and im getting 18mpg. of course thats with the 285s off.
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i dont know what others have experienced with edge customer service but so far they have been great. they are replacing my edge evo with a brand new one and new cable as well. i will also get the new fusion software as well. i guess my pcm and old one arrived at edge today so i havent gotten it back yet to see if it will all work but i believe it should.
now i have a question, when i set my edge up on level 2 four years ago i believe i retarded the timing just a little bit to run better with my intake and exhaust. is this what someone would recommend with the new one as well or should i just run the canned level 2 tune? i run level two(towing) because it fits my driving style. i dont have to go above 2k rpm and get up to speed just fine, like a little diesel. all low end and im getting 18mpg. of course thats with the 285s off.
now i have a question, when i set my edge up on level 2 four years ago i believe i retarded the timing just a little bit to run better with my intake and exhaust. is this what someone would recommend with the new one as well or should i just run the canned level 2 tune? i run level two(towing) because it fits my driving style. i dont have to go above 2k rpm and get up to speed just fine, like a little diesel. all low end and im getting 18mpg. of course thats with the 285s off.
#26
yes but i have been searching around and i think its too late for me to get custom tunes...since php is the only one who has the rights to customize programmers from edge and they no longer do them...97-03
what i am finding out is that the only way to get them would be to sell the edge and get something else, if i want the custom tunes. is this correct?
what i am finding out is that the only way to get them would be to sell the edge and get something else, if i want the custom tunes. is this correct?
#27
yes but i have been searching around and i think its too late for me to get custom tunes...since php is the only one who has the rights to customize programmers from edge and they no longer do them...97-03
what i am finding out is that the only way to get them would be to sell the edge and get something else, if i want the custom tunes. is this correct?
what i am finding out is that the only way to get them would be to sell the edge and get something else, if i want the custom tunes. is this correct?
- Jack
#28
Well I got my PCM and programmer back from edge. The truck runs but the PCM won't connect to the edge now. They said if I ship that back they will send me the new 550 dollar cs one that's fancier or something so I think I missed out on having the old one. Not quite sure what the difference is between the old one and the new one
I don't know which version of the edge I had. I had the old 4 button with the screen to the right.
Did I do bad getting shipped the new fancy one? Should I have them send back the old one so I can custom tune it? I thought I couldn't custom tune the evo. I didn't even know there were different versions. Wow I sound like a fool.
I don't know which version of the edge I had. I had the old 4 button with the screen to the right.
Did I do bad getting shipped the new fancy one? Should I have them send back the old one so I can custom tune it? I thought I couldn't custom tune the evo. I didn't even know there were different versions. Wow I sound like a fool.
#29
Well I got my PCM and programmer back from edge. The truck runs but the PCM won't connect to the edge now. They said if I ship that back they will send me the new 550 dollar cs one that's fancier or something so I think I missed out on having the old one. Not quite sure what the difference is between the old one and the new one
I don't know which version of the edge I had. I had the old 4 button with the screen to the right.
Did I do bad getting shipped the new fancy one? Should I have them send back the old one so I can custom tune it? I thought I couldn't custom tune the evo. I didn't even know there were different versions. Wow I sound like a fool.
I don't know which version of the edge I had. I had the old 4 button with the screen to the right.
Did I do bad getting shipped the new fancy one? Should I have them send back the old one so I can custom tune it? I thought I couldn't custom tune the evo. I didn't even know there were different versions. Wow I sound like a fool.
- Jack
#30
i believe they done good to me. actually im pretty happy. it never ran bad with the old one and after checking out this new one on their website ill be alright i think.
i also didnt read your post correctly jack. i was riding around and read it quick. you said you can custom tune a cs. i am goin to research that now.
i also didnt read your post correctly jack. i was riding around and read it quick. you said you can custom tune a cs. i am goin to research that now.