Truck: 2004 FX4 5.4 of course, stock except for K&N drop in filter, 3:55's, 255/70/17 rubber.

I just bought the tuner used, it is indeed unlocked.

First I installed it with the level 1 tune, speedometer is way off(shows 30ish mph when I was actually going 62 mph according to gps). That threw a code for VSS or something so I pulled over and set the truck back to the stock tune.

Then I tried level 2, put in the custom settings for 3:55 gears and 255/70/17 tires, after the tune is flashed in and loaded the truck wants to idle @ 2000 rpm. Not exactly practical so the truck is set back to stock tune again.

My hex code is: RXAQ5B4.HEX

Thoughts?

 

You may want to get the edge software loaded into your computer and update the unit.
What year truck did it come from?
I've read a lot of complaints about low idles but never any about high idles.
So this is a first.

 

normally, anytime one is off that much, it has the wrong gears loaded in. I would reload a tune and double check the default gearing and tire size, changing it to what you actually have. You seem to be saying you have done that, but I would double check. Is there any possibility that your gears have been changed, in your truck?

 

Ok, I will double check again. Gears are indeed 3:55's. Truck was bone stock when I bought it from the original owner.

Why would the gear ratio be set to 64.00 when I go into the custom programs?

 

Both Bluejay and 88 give you good advice here. DO check for any firmware updates to the Edge before you try to reprogram your truck. You need to be at Level 0 (stock) to update the firmware.

Then, try reprogramming it again to either Level 1 or 2, but DO NOT choose the "custom option" program when it's offered. You need the Edge to properly build its stock files and this is the only way it can do it.

If your tires and gears are OEM, you should be golden. The Edge will get those values from your PCM's VID and use them.

If not, you will need to reprogram (you can use the same level) and open the "custom options" menu. Now you WILL have to manually set your Tire Size and your Gear Ratio. You can check the other settings. The Idle setting should be at zero (0) which represents the "factory" idle speed setting. If it's showing a positive number, you've found your idle problem.

I wouldn't try changing other settings from the "stock" settings until you've driven it a while and discovered exactly what you need to adjust. Make sure you understand the ramifications of each adjustment you change. As I said in another post recently, this is where you can get into trouble if you don't know what you're doing.

Edit: Both TS and GR are simple "placeholder" values whenever you open the custom options menu. They can easily BOTH be WAY wrong. You should make sure your GR is set to 3.55.

- Jack

 

I have no idea. That is your problem, I bet.

 

" Download the latest software update for all dash-mounted Evolutions.

Note: You must click on the link within the PDF to download the software.

Applications:

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*This software only works on
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This is found on the silver
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*This software only works on
EEF2400 versions E3.XX.XX
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Copy and paste above from Edge's site. My model number is EEF24XX according to the programmer. Should I go ahead and do an update then? My firmware version is 2.50.2995, calibration 1.0.2943.

I just tried level 1 again without touching the custom settings at all. It threw 2 codes: P1635 Tire size/gear ratio out of range and P2106 Throtte actuator control system-forced limited power.

Date of manufacture is 12/17/2007.

It was previously installed on a 07 FX4.

Thanks for the help so far guys...

 

Jack always says the above statement about it reading your PCM and getting the gears correct in default but it is not fool proof. My Edge never read mine correctly. It would default to 3.73 and I have 3.55s, so I always had to change it.

 

I thought all 04 and up FX4s came with 3:73 gears ??

 

Jim - We're talking about two different things here. IF (and ONLY IF) you DO NOT open the Custom Options menu, the TS and GR are taken from the PCM's VID and will be the OEM values. You don't have that choice, because you have non-OEM size tires. You are forced to open Custom Options, and that automatically loads bogus, "placeholder" values for TS and GR. Those placeholder values are normally ones that can be found on a given model year truck but are not necessarily those found on your truck. In my case, the GR is correct, but the TS is not, even though I have OEM tires.

Now, why the OP is seeing 64.00 for GR, is beyond me, but that would certainly cause a HUGE speed error.

So, Lorne, I think you DO need to update the firmware AND calibration information in your unit. I can't tell you if yours is current or not, because I have a Gryphon and the numbers are different. But, your unit seems to be "remembering" somehow something from the previous truck and this might be a way to get rid of that. I think you use the Fusion software for YOUR Edge. You need to have set your truck back to stock first, of course.

Then, try programming the truck again. This time, open the Custom Options menu and set your GR to 3.55, hit [Enter] to save it and then enter 2400mm for TS (which is your tires with about 3% squish) and hit [Enter] to save that. Go to Idle and make sure it is at zero (0). Scroll to "Done" and hit [Enter].

Let us know how this works out.

If you still have problems, you will probably have to contact Edge Tech Support. I believe they WILL help you, even though you are a "second owner".

- Jack

 

Thanks for explaining that. Now I guess I need to rethink my opinion of your info, dang it. Now that you mention it, I never loaded level 1 at all, and never loaded level 2 or 3 that I did not go to custom settings. So what I thought was calling the default setting, is not the same as what you were talking about. Got it now. At least for today.

 

Yup! It took me about 6 months and numerous misunderstandings, which got straightened out in discussions with Bill to make sense of it all. And, it really doesn't make sense, the way the "custom options" settings are recalled and applied. This is the Q&A I wrote on this subject for the PHP forum: Q&A On Using Custom Options It was written for the Gryphon, but I think it applies 99% to the Edge too.

Interestingly though, it appears (at first blush) that the customizing options settings on the CS and CTS MAY be implemented in a more logical manner. I haven't been able to verify this yet, but it looks like there MAY be three different custom options files (one for each tune) and they appear to be "recalled" as soon as you open the custom options menu. I'm not sure of all of this yet, because I haven't had my unit long enough and there were some other problems related to the way Edge does firmware updates that wipe out your custom tunes, so I'm still experimenting.

- Jack

 

Ok, update. I updated the Evo with the latest Fusion software(after clarifying I had Fusion software with Edge tech support).

Loaded up level 1 WITHOUT customer settings. It still threw the same 2 codes as mentioned above.

Then I loaded up level 1, changed the rear end gears to 3:55(default was 3:73) and changed the tires to 2400 mm(default was 36xx mm). Drove it for a couple minutes, no codes. Shifts don't seem as firm as before though, maybe I'm crazy? Oh well, its not throwing any codes.

Just tried level 2 as well. Everything seems to be on the up and up. Going to run it as it came from Edge before I try to tweak anything.

Thanks again everyone.

 

You're quite welcome! I have no idea why you would be getting such weird numbers for TS and GR. But, since the truck is VERY confused about its speed with those settings (36xx is a HUGE tire), I think it's quite likely they were responsible for the "firm" feeling shifts.

You CAN increase your shift firmness if you'd like, but you really don't want it to feel too "harsh", just kinda "quick". To do this, reprogram at your favorite level (which could be Level 2) and open the Custom Options menu. This time though, just as soon as you open that menu, scroll to "Load Previous Settings" and hit [Enter]. This will put correct values for TS and GR into those positions. Then, scroll to the WOT shift settings and you can add "firmness" (which simply reduces delay between clutch release and lockup). Bluejay has stated +12 on 1-2, +12 on 2-3 and +9 on 3-4 worked well for him. I wouldn't go much higher than that.

By the way, if you DO check your TS after "Loading Previous Settings", you'll probably find it changed slightly. I explain this in the link I posted in response to Bluejay's. The change is insignificant and I wouldn't bother correcting it.

The new shift firmness settings will become part of your "Previous Settings" file once you program your PCM with them.

- Jack