Hi guys!

Don't want to sound crazy but...

the other day while i was driving my 2007 F150 5.4 xl to the restaurant for the Dinner , one of my friends in the neighborhood showed up with his 08 chevy 6.0 silverado dualler reg cab and jumped in front of me and started doing some nasty moves (burning tires- braking-reving etc) for no reasons!

I was calm until we both hit the highway , i wanted to just driving beside him and give him a horn (like saying what's wrong dude) , but as soon as i was beside him he floored it , so I did! and guess what!!!

**His Powerful 6.0 dualler lowered Chevy with aftermarket exhaust & intake & 24" wheels was able to pull ahead by a massive 5 ft bumper-to-bumper**

he couldn't believe am running stock with bigger tires and Custom steel bumpers , so i tolled him just to wait until mine got programed , and he said "ok then will race & see"

actually i was planning to lift my truck first then work on performances things , but he had pushed my adrenaline to buy a programmer and smoke him , so what i want from you guys is some little help in the following points:

- Programmer to get: VMP or Troy Xcal3 - leaning toward VMP (not looking for gauges)
-Plan : running stock for now until i lift it then performances mods will come...
-Tunes to get: typical , Performances - tow - millage
-Octane level: big ? , all i know that i can run max 12:1 Compression... any inputs? also how to know weather we in Dubai have 87 or 93?
-Summer time: will I have overheating and/or other problems in Summer time? (Dubai Summer is smiler to Texas Summer (what i hear) )
-that's all i can think of , remember that am looking for the Most-Bang-for-buck , but still i want to keep my truck nice and reliable

Do you guys think am going to the right line?

Thank you!

 

I like my PHP because I like the gagues! Also a 93 octane was a must for me and theres a notiable differance. You will have no issues with over heating. If you get the gagues and its hot were you live your screen will go black or hard to read till it cools down.
If your not worried about gagues and I was doing it again would probably go with VMP because I wouldnt want to wait 3 months. You will get differant options on this topic. If there wasnt a long wait Id probably go with Troy Xcal3 but also wouldnt feel under handed going with VMP from what Ive always read in the forums here.

If you can stay that close to your buddy and your truck is stock you will smoke him after your tuner! Canned or Custom tune for that matter! And...your truck will stay nice and more reliable AND FASTER! hehehe

 

So your friend has a regular cab Silvy dually?

If you want the most performance out of a programmer, get a 87 and a 93 performance tune. You really won't need custom tunes because you don't have an exhaust or aftermarket intake.

 

1. Do the programmer
2. Go with one of the big 3, vmp-php-troyer
3. Go with a 87 perf tune or 93 perf tune or both, the generic tow tune is probably good enough. What oct is available in dubai?
4. If you want do the cai when the custom tunes come, but tell the programmer that's what mod you are going to do
5. You can always do cat back exhaust anytime. For more extreme exhaust mods consult the programmer. Such as long tube headers.
6. Lift the truck

Oh yah!
Be safe on the streets.

 

F150FXOnline: Thanks mate for the inputs , Troy - VMP ... needs more studying...

4.6 Punisher: Yep, he has just like this one



Only Black + lowered + 24"s

88racing: actually this is what am thinking to do now , as for #3 , I did some researching over the net and am now 60% sure that in dubai we have:

-94 octane
-91 octane
-Diesel

I still can order the 91 octane tune , and fill the truck with 91 octane right? i hear 91 is better than 92 (Performances wise) , and the price difference is almost nothing (actually the 91 is cheaper here)

Thanks guys! really appreciate it!

 

an Xcal 3 will be fine, the wait time is shorter with Justin @ VMP VS Mike at troyer

will work

look at a drag tune, max performance tune and a towing tune

compression ratio is internal and not adjustable in the tune, you shold have 93 octane

look at e-fans and a cooler thermostat for summertime


e-fans, xcal3, shift kit, long tube headers and 2.5 inch dual exhaust with an x or h pipe



or just get a supercharger / turbo and smoke him properly the first time

 

i forgot to mention get a CAI as well when you get the custom tune

 

What is the method for rating the octane there? It may not be the same method as here in the states. So like a 91, might not be what we know as a 91, etc.

 

custom tunes will set you up good. I know my truck would kill his 6.0L.

 

i hope when i get my tuner in (tomorrow but not custom tunes yet) its some what close to the 06 chevy 2500 hd 6.0 i drive at work. damn that thign has some get up and go! even though it only has 245/75/16's on it hahaha.
should i run the xcal3 in my truck unti li get custom tunes in or no? i have intake and exhaust

 

If you have a cai right now don't run the generic/canned tunes on the programmer. You have the chance of running lean. Wait for the custom tunes. Or put the stock air intake back on if you want to try the generic tunes. You probably could use the tow tune, cause tow tunes run richer but don't be mosh'n the pedal.

 

even with my year truck running lean would be a problem???

 

No, its because the canned tune is meant for the smaller OEM intake tube size to draw in a certain amount of air, drawing in too much and not being properly tuned for it wont give you the full benefit, but the 2v 5.4L MAFs aren't as sensitive as the 3vs are.

 

I don't think the "lean problem" is present in your model year truck. I think it mostly effected the 2004-2005 models.

We're all so "primed" to the "lean" reaction, that we tend to make it a "blanket" warning!

- Jack

 

No, what I was originally adressing is the combination of a cai and a genric/canned tune from a prgrammer.
As the air intake tube increases the more tendencies to run lean can happen. Then throw in a generic tune on top of it that originally mapped for a stock intake and the lean condition is possible. If you could find a cai that would allow the same air and flow as a stock intake then it wouldn't be an issue. Also the bigger the intake tube the more the tendency to run lean increases. Just from going from 3" to 3.5" is a big jump. Its not really how much the tb can draw in, its what air is moving by the maf and how the pcm recognizes it.
A cai might be fine by itself on 06-08 but throw a generic tune on it then who knows?
Then why are customers of php who have a cai on 04-08 trucks told to run level 2 tow because it the tune runs richer but just don't hot rod it to much?